name someone who is successful and you have no idea why
Kelly Ripa
shareIt would probably be easier to come up with a list of people I think deserve their success.
shareshe's very rich for someone with limited talent.
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A lot of success and fame comes from having one's foot in the door - often due to things like money and/or connections. Talent and persistence can help someone accumulate success as well, but people in different social circles have different advantages.
That said, how the hell is Jared Leto an Oscar winner while Lou Taylor Pucci probably has to be looked up by most people reading this?
Never understood the appeal of Oprah Winfrey.
shareI've seen a few of her shows and compared them to other talkshow hosts and I can say that her show was much more professional and the audience had more respect for her.
I recently saw a video of a host called Ricki Lake and she had very little control of her guests or audience.
Oprah was queen.
This is true. She's very professional compared to a lot of her contemporaries/peers when it comes to those types of shows. Maybe it's because I'm not the biggest fan of that genre of show (although I did used to watch some Oprah back in the day when she had guests on to promote movies that I was interested in), that I don't appreciate her gifts, but it most likely takes a lot of talent and skill to do what she does without it descending into chaos, as it did with so many other hosts.
shareYes. Celebrities fall all over them selves around her as if she were royalty. I respect she was amazing in that one movie but at the end of the day she was just a talk show host.
shareKim Kardashian
Yeah, famous father, famous step-"father", imfamous hubby, controversial, etc etc all that......but seriously, what has she ever really "done"?
The Kardashians and their step sister’s wealth is completely inexplicable.
They are all pretty good looking girls but jeez, it’s crazy that they could pool their wealth and flat out buy a cool country like Venezuela!
Elon Musk
Jeff Bezos
Mark Zuckerberg
Seriously?
I can't stand any of them, but they clearly invented and patented (particularly in the latter two's case) services/apps that fulfilled a demand, and whilst I loathe their impact on society (I don't use Amazon, and I avoid Facebook, as a point of principle), I can't deny their smarts/shrewdness in cornering their particular markets.
Facebook was a stolen idea from the twins who sued.
shareI don't like Zuckerberg, but fuck those blue-blooded, overprivileged, upper-class twins.
As a *genuine* progressive, I'm not on the side of their WASP old money ESTABLISHMENT asses, but, hey, you do you, Keelai. 🙂👍🏼
"they clearly invented"
Nevertheless, you're wrong about Zuckerberg "inventing" Facebook.
He was the one who was shrewd enough to turn an idea into a commercial endeavour. I don't like the guy, but he had far more nous than the bluebloods he supposedly stole the idea from.
shareYou admire a sociopath and thief who stabbed his best friend in the back, too.
shareI don't 'admire' him. I think he's an asshole. I just think he's very smart, like MOST Ashkenazi Jewish people (who generally have higher IQs and a greater tradition of academia and scholarship than other people, including the fucking WASP bluebloods you're shedding a tear for).
shareYou're a bigot. Sad.
shareA 'bigot' against whom? Powerful/privileged people?
Aren't you the one who's always posting about how white people are innately more criminal than Black people? I can understand and relate to the desire to stand up for Black people, but ANYONE who racialises crime, one way or the other, is arguably a bigger bigot than I could ever possibly be.
All I'm doing is saying that Ashkenazi Jews, a group that has been historically persecuted, tend, on balance, to have very high IQs/a propensity for academia. How is that 'bigoted'?
You're stereotyping. And even a "positive" stereotype is still bigotry.
Why stereotypes are bad even when they're 'good'
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/oliver-burkemans-blog/2012/dec/12/stereotypes-bad-even-when-good
Why ‘Positive’ Jewish Stereotypes Are Bad Too
https://lifehacker.com/why-positive-jewish-stereotypes-are-bad-too-1849829352
"innately"
No such thing.
"racialises crime"
There's nothing wrong with correcting a stereotype with the truth which is backed up by government data.
I can understand why Musk, Bezos, and Zuckerberg are successful, but I don't understand why they are being advertised as celebrities. Aren't there many successful scientists, inventors, and business people in the world, but aren't famous.
I don't understand what makes Musk the best person to lead twitter. Being super smart in technology and can invent things doesn't qualify a person to be the judge of twitter members on whether they should be banned or reinstated on the that platform.
I don't think these 3 guys know what it's like to be a common person which most people are in the world.
Bezos has nothing to do with Twitter. Musk bought Twitter. I agree, he doesn’t belong in the social media business, especially because he seems to have some sort of personality disorder. He didn’t invent Tesla either. He bought it from founders Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning.
shareI got the name wrong. I edited the post. I didn't know he bought Tesla.
I actually don't find Musk interesting to listen to in interviews. I thought I'd be though, since he is super smart.
Seth Meyers. I have to concede that he may very well be funny and likable...however, he is one of those celebrities that I have never watched and has gained his fame/wealth totally independent from me. I've seen some social media clips of him, though, and have never laughed at him trying to be funny, so I will say him.
shareHE SEEMED LIKABLE ON WEEKEND UPDATE...OTHER THAN THAT WHAT HAS HE DONE?...I AM DRAWING A BLANK.
shareHe is the current host of Late Night which David Letterman originated.
shareREALLY?...WOW!...I HAD NO IDEA...I STOPPED WATCHING TELEVISION A FEW YEARS BACK...JUST PHYSICAL MEDIA AND YOUTUBE NOW.
HE DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A STRONG CANDIDATE FOR SUCH A SWEET ASS JOB...PROBABLY A GOOD THING I DON'T WATCH TV ANYMORE.
He’s quite good as the host of that show too.
shareJames Corden.
For someone whose entire career as a TV chatshow host theoretically relies on the ability to be charming, gracious and likeable, he is, by all accounts, from other celebs and 'regular people', none of those things.
He plays the whole 'likeable, cheeky, man-of-the-people' role, and yet he's notorious for treating waiters/chefs and other people in the service industry, like shit.
he doesn't seem to be a nice guy at all.
shareBeing a dick catches up with you. Johnny Carson got away with it, while he was alive.
sharecarson's public and personal persona were much different.
shareAs is true with David Letterman, but in a better way.
shareYeah, I don't think Dave is nearly as messed up as Carson was. My take on Dave was he got burnt out on clowning, shilling for lightweight celebrities, because he is fundamentally a serious, thoughtful sort of person - he probably would have been much happier, as the years rolled by, in a long interview format with people he found interesting & respected.
shareI like to think that's true. I enjoyed Dave as a host, even, maybe especially, when he was taking the piss out of the vacuity of his guests.
shareAt least Johnny Carson was genuinely charismatic. Even when he was being a creep to his female guests, he possessed a natural charm that a lot of these guys, like Corden, lack.
shareOh, true. Carson was gifted, great wit, charm - all of which made his petty vindictiveness as a large part of his personality the more jarring.
shareFirst person I thought of. I loathe him.
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