She was 17 wasn't she ? Apart from being a sleaze Prince Andrew hasn't done anything wrong in this case. If he had been banging some of Epstein's 14 year olds that would be different.
You know, I don't always agree with you, but I generally respect you. In this I do not. I am filled with rage at the comments on the post. She may be out to get money, but this is someone who was sexually abused at 7 years old. Do you have any idea what that does to a person for the rest of their lives? No? Then you should be grateful. It fucks you up severely. Considering that she was in and out of foster homes and living on the street at 13 and being trafficked by a 65 year old, you think you could find some compassion? No. Instead you all are more interested in defending these rich and powerful men and their decisions to be with young women. Fuck. It is so disgusting. Maybe at 17 she should have been able to protect herself more, but knowing about her life, I don't think she knew any different. I think she deserves every penny she can get out of these men as there will never actually be any justice for her.
Yes it appears that she had a terrible childhood but as I sometimes say when people complain about their horrible childhoods " Join the club ! " Notwithstanding that awful beginning she later chose to earn money as a prostitute instead of getting a regular job.
Epstein and Prince Andrew were not responsible for her bad childhood although they took advantage of her as a young prostitute. But she has already received $500,000 from Epstein if what the media says is true. Isn't that a substantial settlement ? Why is she going for more if not out of greed ?
I'd say your rage at Epstein and Prince Andrew in this case is an over reaction. But then some women tend to see themselves as nothing but innocent victims and men as the sole evil villains in prostitution. Granted that is the case when talking about the trafficking of women into sexual slavery but Virginia Roberts was not a victim of that. It seems to me she could have walked away from being a prostitute at any time.
And it seems to me that probably quite a lot of people who complain about not getting justice should be careful what they wish for.
But sure, blame her at 17 for getting roped in with another sex trafficker.
I think it's more about sticking it to Prince Andrew than it is about the money.
My rage comes from reading post after post on this site blaming women for everything. According to the men on this site there is not one man who has been accused of assault of a sexual nature is guilty. It's all just money hungry whores who are out to destroy a man's life that would dare to make an accusation. I can tell you that all the money in the world will not heal the wounds of childhood abuse. Also from what I understand is that she wasn't prostituting when she met Maxwell and Epstein, she was working at Mar-a-lago. So yeah, I see her as a victim, not just a greedy whore.
What do you mean when you say she was trafficked ? I was talking specifically about women who are sold into sexual slavery. That is what I think of when using the term trafficked. You are not suggesting she was sold into sexual slavery are you, or that Epstein and Prince Andrew were holding a gun to her head ?
I'm not blaming her for anything. I just called her a greedy whore for going for another payout when she has already received one and I stand by that.
As for the rest of your post I think it is an hysterical outburst. And don't talk to me as if I wouldn't know the first thing about being on the receiving end of serious childhood abuse. Take your sanctimonious, emotional SJW'ing and try selling it to someone else because I'm not buying it.
Sex trafficking means forcing people into prostitution, not just selling them into sexual slavery. I am suggesting that that was the case.
If you know what serious childhood sexual abuse is like then I'm surprised at how you would just write her off as a greedy whore. Yes I am emotional, I do not deny that. I am angry. I am angry at all the shit I keep reading and I stand by that. There is nothing sanctimonious about it. I am frustrated, not superior, and I'm hurting for all the victims . You can call that SJW all you want, I don't care. It's bullshit.
No trafficking doesn't specifically mean that actually. I looked it up and it seems to be a general term applied to all sorts of prostitution.
And I didn't write her off, I called her a greedy whore. She is trying for a second compensation payment which makes her greedy in my opinion and there is no doubt that she was a whore. Unless you are suggesting she provided sexual services for free.
I also don't know what you mean when you say " I am angry at all the shit I keep reading and I stand by that. " All what shit ? I haven't noticed any particular abundance of any specific kind of shit that you might be referring to. Although there is plenty of general run-of-the-mill shit I suppose.
And another thing, this thread may be regarded by some as being in poor taste but it is clearly meant to be tongue-in-cheek. And yet you have barged into it guns blazing as though everything was being said in total seriousness. And it seems odd that I should have been singled out among all the responders or even the OP to be the sole object of your overly emotional and disproportionate outburst.
You are "...hurting for all the victims" ? Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Well I can be very callous but that comes from living my entire life in the company of savage barbarians. It may be regretted I suppose but it can't be helped.
don't talk to me as if I wouldn't know the first thing about being on the receiving end of serious childhood abuse
Most people dont know the first thing about being on the receiving end of serious childhood abuse.
The only ones who do know the first thing about being on the receiving end of serious childhood abuse
are the ones who have been on the receiving end of serious childhood abuse.
Are you saying you have been on the receiving end of serious childhood abuse?
And for the purposes of this conversation " serious childhood abuse" will have to equal "sexual abuse" , not "mom stopped my allowance"
From your black and white outlook on this i'm guessing not and i agree totally with sslssg , who seems capable of seeing a bigger picture.
Ultimately it is about money but it's messed up and sends the wrong message because sex trafficking is about making money also and it is morally wrong. Yea I wish I had half a mill but you shouldn't be able to buy underage sex slaves.
you're mad because of money, i'm trying to talk too the money and explain how evil it is. lol
He’s really had it tough with his life of obscene wealth and privilege earned by nothing more than a fluke of birth. So we’re supposed to feel sorry for him now because his facade of class and nobility has been cracked by his own actions coming back to bite him on his posh arse?
I'm not saying he never did anything wrong or that he didn't know what Epstein was up to, but as the law stands, she was 17 in London. The age of consent in The UK is 16.
The privileged are always stupid, especially when it comes to sex 🙄