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Tom Cruise is one of a kind and haters will miss him when he's no longer around.


Thomas Cruise Mapother IV can do the drama, the action and the comedy. He's got a few Oscar nominations and a few Golden Globe wins. Is he weird? Yes, but all he wants to do is entertain us. Eventually when he dies, all the haters will regret every negative word they said about him because there's no one next in line like him.

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Good actor, great at picking scripts. Don't care about his religion, they are all cults.

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I feel the same way.

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it isn't just what cults believe metaphysically that matters (which may well be nonsense in every case), it is also how they treat their adherents, their adherents families, handle dissent.

scientology is in a class by itself in terms of exploitation. the jehovah's witnesses have a similar policy of separating the families of those who leave the cult. if you are catholic or baptist and quit going to service, tell everyone you think its all bollocks, no one is forbidden from asking you to christmas dinner.

not everything is the same. the British Expeditionary Force and the Waffen SS were military units - also not the same.

TC benefits -personally- from the labor and products of labor of persons working for cents on the dollar, eating shoddy food, routinely working 16 hour days, or more.

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Hmmm, you are glossing over a lot of terrible things done by protestants and Catholics even today. Honestly I don't know which religion is "the worst" but they are all really bad. It's a lot like singling out one German concentration camp as bad and excusing the others.

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if you can find some child slavery i'm glossing over respecting catholics or non-cultish protestants 'even today', please link them. btw, i'm an atheist, so i have no skin in the game of defending any particular denomination.

here's a couple of links describing scientology's treatment of children :

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/scientologist-exposes-church-brutal-child-labor-camp-article-1.1291350

https://www.villagevoice.com/2012/02/14/scientologys-shocking-treatment-of-children-held-in-a-suburban-labor-camp/

so, rather than quibble with me, see if you can find anything like this sort of treatment of children in any other mainline denomination. i'm not talking about the historical child-abuse scandals. this is something of a different nature. EVERY scientology sea org kid is a slave, working for pennies on the dollar, barely educated, poorly fed & cared for, isolated from parents, routinely forced to work long hours. it is sloppy thinking to lump all religions and cults into one lump, dismissing any/all abuses out of hand.

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I'm sure you've heard at least something about the sex abuse of children and nuns in the Catholic church. Pope Francis has been accused of helping to cover them up, during his long career in the church and documentation has been produced to substantiate that accusation. Abuse in Protestant denominations and independent churches is much harder to search out because it involves so many organizations and is interwoven into local cultures but it is common. Until relatively recent times there was a feeling that a man had the right to do with his family as he pleased, including smacking his wife around or even diddling the kids. My uncle was a god fearing man, probably the most honest and hardworking man I ever knew, but when his daughter asked to move back home because she and her daughter were being physically and sexually abused he denied them and argued that it was a god given right for a man to do with his family what he wanted. I was in the next room listening. I hated the man for that until the day he died and never told anyone why. And shockingly even today, some churches support marrying children to grown men, it's legal in some states. How often it happens is hard to say because I'm too lazy to go digging around and verifying data but according to one website it's in the thousands with the youngest being 12 yo. So again, I don't know which religion is the worst and have no idea how to quantify that. And we haven't even touched on Muslims, Mormons, or Jews.

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Not a fan of too many of his films post 2000. It is good that there are still old school people in Hollywood who make films largely free of agendas though.

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With movies like Tom Cruise in them, you can't lose!

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Unless it's Cocktail.

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Nah, probably not.

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I think he's a great actor and has been in quite a few good films. I don't even like the MI films, but there are many others that I think he is great in. He may be a nutjob in real life, I don't know, but it doesn't really bother me.

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His craziness doesn't bother me either. The guy just knows how to entertain and that's all I care about.

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People really started freaking out about him after the couch jumping incident. It took me a few years before I eventually watched it and I still don't understand what the big deal is. OK, he's extremely excited and energetic about himself, great. He was probably coked out at the time like many other stars. I guess I don't understand why that was the pivotal moment where people were like, oh he's crazy.

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He is exceptional. I don't like his early stuff but there came a point where he mastered his face and stopped mogging like a wide eyed maniac. Films like The Firm and Valkyrie became standards of quality in his career. I like his movie now. Few are not good.

The """religion""" he touts is a destructive organization that abuses people wantonly. But he sure makes a good movie. How many people do you have to sacrifice to Xenu to make a good movie?

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Is TC copping crap at the moment? I am just curious what sparked this thread.

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I was watching a clip of him on YouTube at the Oscars and the comments were mostly positive. This was before the couch jumping and it seems that people only disliked him after that.

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The couch jumping although a while ago seemed to have a negative effect on him. I think some people had an issue with the 16 year age gap between him and Katie Holmes as well as Cruise's failed marriages and constant need to marry in general.

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Best Tom Cruise impression ever - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWrhRBb-1Ig

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I forgot about deep fakes.

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I must confess the first time I saw it I thought, OMG Hader can contort his face to the person he is imitating!

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