Why is this board so anti-women?
I've been posting here for well over a year now, and I've noticed a trend on posts about how awful women are. Every couple of months this pops up. Why is this?
shareI've been posting here for well over a year now, and I've noticed a trend on posts about how awful women are. Every couple of months this pops up. Why is this?
shareIVE BEEN HERE SIX MONTHS...ITS A REAL PROBLEM...TURNS OUT A LOT OF GUYS ON THE INTERNET ARENT MENTALLY EQUIPPED TO HANDLE WOMEN AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN PRETTY SIDEPIECES.
shareIt's amazing how revealing they are here. They wouldn't dare say it in public.
shareAnd here it is the White Knight. Oh the shame!!! Oh it burns! Nah, not really.
What you are seeing is simply men expressing their thoughts and feelings. You obviously disagree with what is being said. So what.
no what we're seeing is a 20 day old sock account of some misogynist who refers to women as FemiNatzis
What's a "FemiNatzi"?
shareYou tell me, its your term:
TrussRod: Eh, in Australia the feminazi's are talking about the concept of "Enthusiastic Consent"
maybe, you're refrerring to my typo with the erroneous "T", but either way , i'd really like to know what you mean when you say "feminazi"
I never used the term 'enthusiastic consent" you are applying something to me that I never said.
Feminazi? It's a common term. You have the internet, look it up.
1) thats a direct quote from your post history
2) i want to know your personal definition as you applied it in that context , or however you usually use the term.
..actually you're right , i prefer the definition google gave me:
"Feminazi: the go-to term for trolls out to silence women"
Can't see my username on that thread.
This thread
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/5e388e08d84fde57c2fe49f3/If-I-ever-want-consenual-sex-from-a-women
Shortly to be edited I suspect. You open with "Feminazi" then complain that your new here and the forum seems "agressive"
Why would I edit it?
Feminazi is an apt description.
The forum is aggressive too.
Here it is: -
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/5e388e08d84fde57c2fe49f3/If-I-ever-want-consenual-sex-from-a-women?reply=5e38944bd84fde57c2fe4a48
(Helpful Andy)
Interesting discussion.
Sounds like the white knights were triggered as well as the women.
But alas, TrussRod was not part of it.
Erβ¦. Are you sure: -
[β] TrussRod (129) 21 days ago
Eh, in Australia the feminazi's are talking about the concept of "Enthusiastic Consent" whatever that may mean. To me it means that even if a woman says "Yes" you can't just take that as gospel and need her to say 'YES, I WANT YOU SOOOO BAD" or something like that.
The juice ain't worth the squeeze.
I haven't noticed that, but I have noticed a reflexive overreaction to some fairly benign posts when the topic is related to women.
shareAs opposed to all those posts about what is wrong with modern men? If there's an overreaction it's because there is an over-saturation of these critical posts about women.
I'm not surprised that some of our female members have had enough and left.
I'm not surprised that some of our female members have had enough and left.
WHY SO DEFENSIVE?
shareWHY SO DEFENSIVE?
YOURE A REAL PEACH...TALK TALK TALK AND NEVER EVEN COMPREHEND WHAT IT IS YOURE TALKING ABOUT.
sharePerhaps I should have said I wouldnβt be surprised if this is why we donβt see some of our regular female members so much any more.
For someone who is constantly rabbiting on about how men are demonised in popular culture you seem oddly ambivalent to the suggestion that there is an anti-female bias on this forum. Your response - thatβs life.
Perhaps I should have said I wouldnβt be surprised if this is why we donβt see some of our regular female members
For someone who is constantly rabbiting on about how men are demonised in popular culture you seem oddly ambivalent to the suggestion that there is an anti-female bias on this forum.
Ah no, Iβm not going to start naming names, how odd that you would push me to do that. Read the other comments, Iβm not the only person to have noticed.
I didnβt say that your anti-woke crusade was anti-female, it just seems that your dismissive attitude when itβs suggested these threads may make our female friends uncomfortable is telling. Youβre only upset if youβre the one affected.
Ah no, Iβm not going to start naming names, how odd that you would push me to do that. Read the other comments, Iβm not the only person to have noticed.
I didnβt say that your anti-woke crusade was anti-female, it just seems that your dismissive attitude when itβs suggested these threads may make our female friends uncomfortable is telling.
"over-saturation of these critical posts"? I see one thread in the last week that asks if women are angrier today than they were in the 1980s. Even assuming that topic is critical (which itself is a stretch), how is that an over-saturation? The board immune response, however, was immediate, negative and overdone.
shareIt's the White Knight effect. They believe women must never be spoken about negatively or even questioned. They can't help themselves.
shareWe've seem to have lost a few women posters as well. Or if they are still here they aren't posting as much. I guess we are just sick of hearing how every women is just awful.
share" I guess we are just sick of hearing how every women is just awful."
Welcome to our world, SS.
I don't see those discussions on these boards. Granted I do avoid the politics board.
shareNo, there are few male-bashings at this place, true. But for the past several decades they've been ubiquitous in the general media. Most men have seen it; some have reacted to it with anger; some have simply dismissed it as a "women" thing; some have been disappointed at it, and some have had their lives and their livelihood destroyed by it.
Funny, whenever men speak up and object to it, women scoff at them for being "weak". It's an effective tactic of belligerent people, particularly feminists: you insult and attack your opponent, and then when they hit back, you scorn them with "Aaaaargh, ya can't take it! Weakling!" It takes advantage of the natural dynamic between males and females, and it works every time.
Again, not quite knowing which types of posts you are referring to, I can't really comment. Now, this isn't me saying that they don't exist, as I know they do. I just find it odd that you are welcoming me to your world. I don't think either situation is new, or inclusive.
I try very hard not to lump all men together, and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't lump me in with the women you are mentioning.
"I try very hard not to lump all men together, and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't lump me in with the women you are mentioning."
Well, when I said, "You", I was talking about women in general, not necessarily feminists. It might have sounded that way, but really that part was just an extension of my mini-rant about women per se.
I understand that, but aren't those generalizations part of the miscommunications in these conversations that get everyone so heated?
shareYes, that is common. It's one of the "risks" of joining a Net forum. Few people have the mental discipline, (and in some cases the language competence), to write perfectly lucid, unambiguous entries in a discussion thread.
It's also a weakness of written communication, in which emphases can't easily be conveyed without convoluted explanatory additions.
And, incidentally, I wasn't the one getting heated this time.. :)
I have seen men get treated quite badly on forums like this and on this forum. So I guess men are just starting fight back.
I am sure as a tough independent woman you can handle it.
And why do women think we care if you continue to be members here or not?? Why do think it matters if you like us or not?
Where are all these posts of men being treated badly, and what are they about? I don't see those posts on MC.
I think that people should treat each other in a considerate manner. I think that decorum matters, both here and in the real world. I might disagree with both men, and women on this board but I will always try to do so with respect. So, while I can handle it, I shouldn't have to.
So this board belongs to men? Are you speaking for all male movie chatters? Who is this "we" you speak of?
You were part of the beat down.
And no, I don't feel this board belongs to me at all. But you are part of the clique who feels they own it.
Which post was this?
shareYou know.
shareNo, I do not know.
shareYes you do.
shareOkay, seriously, I'm not sure which thread you are referring to. I've spoken up on many of one of the moviebuffs posts about women, I've taken part in a discussion about what cisgender means recently. There were some comments made in a thread about white knights? Am I warm?
shareOh no I don't.
Oh yes you do.
He's behind you.
Ah, panto season arrives early (Google 'pantomime' as it's a very British thing)
People like yourself kill these forums.
shareReally? I'm trying to have a conversation with you. I've asked for examples of these conversations, and you deflect. If you are making me out to be the villain here, at least let me know where I have been so awful. It's never my intent, yet I'm not perfect, I make mistakes, and yes, I sometimes speak out of anger, but I do not recall any instances of that recently. If you are not going to point out where it is that I have wronged you, then I'm done here.
shareIt's impossible to have discussions with people like yourself. You're so blind with anger
And hate.
Hahahahahahahahaha! Wow
Yes uou are pathetic.
shareThank you for pointing out my shortcomings. I will endeavor to be less pathetic in the future, and I hope that the bitterness that is eating away at your soul can find a way to dissipate and that you can find some peace and happiness.
shareOle Truss has been beaten down once again in this thread. Good job.
Please know that his opinions are nothing more than a vocal minority that cannot handle a woman that doesn't know her "place".
"nothing more than a vocal minority that cannot handle a woman that doesn't know her "place"."
And to be fair to Rod, I don't think you can assume his motives, Buck. That's a tactic of poor propagandists.
Sure thing, Pop. Rod is fucked up in a way that I am not familiar with that makes him combative towards women.
Is that better?
You don't respond well to a reasonable approach, Buck?
But yes, that's better.
What is your assessment of Rod's behavior ITT? What is the root(root, lol) cause? Why does he seem to think women are taking liberties in society that they should not be afforded? When I say "women" I'm not talking about a few outliers. Women, in general.
shareThe key words there is "seem to think", Buck. You've formed an opinion of him that is based on what he "seems" to think. That's a risky tack on a Net Forum.
I can't comment on him as I've rarely read his posts and I don't really know him. Thus, I don't know his true motives. Just as I don't know yours.
Rod, to be fair, I don't think sslsg is quite as bad as you think she is.
I myself don't agree with her point of view on most things, but I have to say I've not found her to be especially belligerent. She sometimes tries to be, but I don't think it's really her nature to be.
"As bad as you think she is".
Passive aggressive much?
Me? Passive-aggressive? As I said above, I see you have trouble recognising a reasonable approach, Buck.
I was speaking up for sslsg, and sincerely. At the same time, I was being diplomatic towards Rod. I know it's not your style, but it is mine. Nothing passive-aggressive about it.
"As bad as you think" is saying you think she is bad, just not as bad as "you think".
It's nitpicky but I caught you.
Ah, I see. But, no, that's not what I meant at all. I was speaking to Rod's apparent prejudice against her. I was saying that it's very apparent that he has a poor opinion of her, and I was pointing out that he might just be wrong.
I've had differences of opinion with her, but if you were watching, you'd have noted that we ended our conversation with courtesy. I disagree utterly with her world view and lifestyle, but I do find her to be a reasonable correspondent on the forum.
I think most people would have taken my comment to Rod for exactly what it was, a subtle defence of sslsg. But you saw something sinister in it which wasn't really there. I think there was more passive aggression in your response than there was in my original remark to Rod.
I didn't see it as sinister. I saw it as a dog whistle saying "yeah she's not really cool but she's not the worst of 'em".
"She's not as bad as you think".
I would never defend a person I respected with those words.
Yours was an empty gesture. A dog whistle.
I really have to smile at that, Buck. You do seem to always put a negative slant on things, don't you.
I can only assure you again that my choice of words was unambiguous. You apparently think it was "faint praise", but it was not. Ask yourself, why would I have even bothered to post to Rod, to say that, if I was not sincere?
I'm sure you would prefer I had attacked Rod with all the invective that you would use. But I have nothing against him in particular.
Bit of over-thinking there, I think.
Your words were not "unambiguous".
Maybe you aren't as smart as you think you are.
Maybe you're aren't either, Buck. "Unambiguous" is a perfectly appropriate word to apply. Or, if you want to be pedantic, I could say "my comment" was unambiguous. Same thing, really.
I can't think of a phrase that more-perfectly can be described as ambiguous than "Passive-Aggressive". Can you?
My comment, "I don't think sslsg is quite as bad as you think she is." could hardly be more plain and clear. Only a prejudiced reader could see any hidden motive behind it. I have pointed this out. Your repeated choosing to reject my explanation is tedious.
"I don't think" could not be more plain and clear?
Do you eat retard sandwiches for lunch?
You are clearly out of your depth.
BuckSwope!! Are you trying to sound dumb?
Let me ask you; do you think sslsg is okay, or do you not think sslsg is okay?
If you answer correctly, you'd say, "I think sslsg is okay", wouldn't you. Or, if you're in a playful mood, you might say, "I don't think sslsg is not okay."
Either way, your meaning would be plain and clear.
By the way, if you take a break from your crusade for a minute, and read back a few posts, you might notice that sslsg and I have had a very positive exchange concerning misunderstandings on forums. If you open your mind a bit, you also might also detect that I have more respect for her than you do.
I hereby christen you βForum Killer!β
shareIn general, most of people here are men. It's normal to find posts complaining about women. Check any forum with a majority of female user and you'll find posts complaining about men.
That's normal, and there's nothing wrong with it. Men complain about women and women complain about men. Employers complain about employees and employees complain about employers. Children complain about parents and parents complain about children. That's life.
THATS NOT AT ALL WHAT THE OP MEANT.
shareHe said 'anti-women'. The problem is that nowadays any complain about women becomes 'anti-women' or hate speech or whatever.
And I haven't seen here real hate. For example, in a recent thread you were calling your wife a bitch. But that's just a sadly unhappy bitter marriage, it's not anti-women or that you hate women or anything like that.
YOUVE MISSED THE POINT...IS IT INTENTIONAL?
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I came across a thread where some members on here really hated on a member just because they disagreed with his views. Seems the mods were part of it as well. So yeah hate exists here.
It's just the victims of it aren't women.
Yes but women are the centre of the known universe and you just can't criticize or complain or talk about them in a bad way. At all ever.
It upsets the white knights and makes the females leave the forum.
And for some reason we are supposed to give a shit.