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Is it a hate crime to say gay marriage is not a “real marriage”?


Once upon a time you were entitled to your opinion that black students shouldn’t go to school with white students. That’s now a hate crime.

Hillary Clinton argued on the senate floor in 2004 against gay marriage, calling male/female marriage the bedrock of society.

She launched her 2016 campaign with a commercial with two gay men planning their marriage. How she, and the times, changed quickly.

Do you think it would now be a chargeable offence to say “two men aren’t really a marriage.”

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Farting on public transport is a hate crime these days. You have to tread carefully.

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Not if you do it silently.

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farting during sex is even worse

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It's not a traditional marriage, you can't deny that.

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It shouldn't be a hate crime, that's something that never should have been allowed to exist. But it could be considered old thinking. However it depends on your perspective, and whether you believe a person's religion should be respected or not. For some civil union is acceptable while calling it a marriage, something tied closely to religious practice is not so acceptable.

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How does one determine if it is OR if it isn't, and would the determination be CORRECT?

In Russia where I come from, it is at best considered normal and sadly, we even have anti gay propaganda laws to which many Russians agree with, but according to more civilized parts of the world, that is wrong and is serious discrimination, but who would you say is right or wrong here?

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Also, with regards to treading carefully.

If that is the case, how do you explain the fact that many people do it and often publicly so and get away with it fine, with nary a guilty conscience or sleepless nights on their behalf?

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A lot people do a lot of things publicly and get away with it. People use obscene gestures, call people names, and so on all the time. Other times though they do pay for it because say the wrong thing to wrong type of person.

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I think its wrong to persecute gay people and anti gay laws would be that. Whether homosexuality is right or wrong comes down to your own core beliefs and values. I personally have no problem with gay people, if they want to get a civil union I am ok with it. If a church wishes to perform a marriage, also that is fine. Where I disagree is with the idea people have to approve, a company has to bake a cake, a church has to perform the ceremony. They have a right to refuse if it goes against their beliefs and they are not physically harming someone.

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Once upon a time you were entitled to your opinion that black students shouldn’t go to school with white students.


You're really not doing opponents of gay marriage any favors if you lump their position in with Jim Crow era school segregation.

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Your premise is flawed. Having an opinion, albeit an unpopular one, is not a crime.

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A lot of people have ended up on the bread lines testing that assurance, Dad.

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The original premise was weather having an unpopular opinion constitutes a crime. It may not be a good career move but still not a crime.

Upon further reflection, I guess under certain circumstances, power and authority coupled with an unpopular opinion could rise to a crime. However I still hold that an unpopular opinion alone cannot be a criminal offense.

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This ain't the '60's no more. That generation guaranteed free speech. That same generation has since destroyed their doctrine.

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(Americans) jailed for unpopular opinion actually exist.

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Specifics/source please...case citations and specific statute that was broken. Thanks in advance.

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I don't do URL's, Dad. I've seen it numerous times. & so have you.

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Please don't speak for me and I don't think asking for sources in this day and age is an unreasonable request. Thanks.

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Horseshit. You've seen it.

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I respectfully disagree however I will give you the last word.

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& I'll take it.

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A hate crime? No, just plain ignorance.

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It's neither. I happen to believe that gays should be allowed to marry but I'm not pig-headed enough to believe that someone with an opinion that differs from mine is ignorant.

There is zero tolerance these days for intellectual discourse and it's disturbing.

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