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Where else is life?


Do you think there is life on other places in the universe? I've been watching the tv series 3d Rock from the Sun, and it's got me wondering if there really is life elsewhere, and are those beings already here and we just don't know it. Either way, it's an exciting thought. I hope there is life elsewhere and wonder if they are laughing their heads off at the inhabitants of Earth.

What do you think?

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I think that for sure there is life out there somewhere. It's just too vast for there not to be. As for if they've come here...well I can't say for sure. I don't know if life would be humanoid, and honestly, if an intelligent alien species came near earth and were able to observe us, I'm not sure they would want to make themselves known as we would probably just try to destroy them.

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Have you ever seen the classic science-fiction movie, (the original) The Day The Earth Stood Still, sslssg? The first alien emissary lands on Earth. The US Military surround his flying saucer. He, Klaatu, emerges, walks to the ground, and pulls an object from his flightsuit. They shoot him, wounding him and destroying the object! They remove his helmet. They see that he is human(oid?). He gasps, “That was a gift for your President. He could have used it to study life on other worlds.” You are right. Truly intelligent extraterrestrial beings would study use clandestinely.

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A wonderful movie

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If I could bet, I'd bet on their being life within our solar system. Atoms and molecules just like to jiggle around and find self-replicating patterns, it's just the way matter is.

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filmboards - maybe

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primitive at best

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I think that the universe is far too large for the phenomenon of intelligent life to be limited to our planet.

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I agree. My pure speculation is that the universe is teeming with life (considering the billions of planets in this one galaxy (of billions of galaxies), it would seem impossible that there would be no other life of any kind elsewhere.

I also speculate that there is intelligent life, and likely sentient as well.

As to whether they've ever visited us, it doesn't seem likely given the distances involved unless life evolved (and still exists) somewhere else in this solar system (like a moon for instance).

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"As to whether they've ever visited us, it doesn't seem likely given the distances involved unless life evolved (and still exists) somewhere else in this solar system (like a moon for instance)."

Our moon's very unlikely, due to its proximity to us. But as to the rest, yes, according to primitive Newtonian physics. Not so much when dealing with the more advanced quantum physics. Einstein touched on this with his theory of relativity and space-time.

I met someone, a friend of a friend, a number of years ago who told us a story about his being abducted by extra-terrestrial people. Sure, I'd read about and heard about this kind of thing before, but had never witnessed a first-hand account. He struck me as a bright, sane, credible person, who was obviously very uncomfortable recounting his experience.

There are too many credible people, all over the globe -- military higher-ups, police, on and on -- telling about their experiences, all similar, for me to be willing to discount them, or write them off as kooks. Although I have no doubt there are also kooks who claim the same.

Personally, I'm a fan of Occam's Razor, so I think the majority are telling the truth about their experiences. How it all works and what it means, that I don't know. Maybe we'll know in our lifetime, maybe not.

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It seems inconceivable to me the ice moons of Jupiter and Saturn don't hold life. With oceans detected under much of the ice, it seems impossible to imagine they'd turn out to be sterile instead of teaming with life. It's just a matter of discovering how evolved that life.

I think Europa and Enceladus are most promising.

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I wonder when we'll know.

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James Cameron had been part of a lobbying effort to send a probe to Europa to find out like a decade ago. It's not like they don't have the technology to be able to do it now. There are already multiple conceptual designs for how to build the unit to probe that ocean, with the base of the lander heating up the ice underneath it upon landing to descend and submerge itself into the warm ocean underneath known for being heated by the moon's volcanic vents.

It's also known there is oxygen on Europa's surface so I would bet that ocean is teaming with strange and wonderful lunar alien life forms.

But as far as when we'll know, your guess is as good as mine. Hopefully in our lifetimes. But I think the future of space exploration is more likely to come from the private sector and wealthy individuals.

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Yes

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Do you mean any kind of life? If so, it’s logically almost a certainty that there are other life-forms in an infinite universe, and that’s a cautious anwer. If you mean intelligent life, I can tell you that I’m not impressed with what I see on Earth. Some may point to humanity’s ability to develop civilization and technology. That’s as much a result of our opposable thumbs as it is a result of whatever brain power we collectively possess. We can grasp tools. What about the coelacanths? There is a poster here with a very clever username: whalewithhands. If whales, dolphins, porpoises had hands with thumbs, where would humankind fall on the intellectual food chain?

PS Wolves and hawks mate for life. Humans still haven’t figured out how to do that.

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I'd like to think that maybe life in Earth is actually the first kind in the universe.

Think about it, that millions and millions years from now other lifeform would evolve and found the relic of our presence, a once thriving high tech civilization that gone extict. They will call us The Precursor (or The Forerunner, or any other cool names.)

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Given the age of the universe, it would be absurd to think Earth is the first with life. There are galaxies far older than ours just in the milky way.

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To further expand on eYeDEF's remarks, if sentient life is the norm in the galaxy (a stretch yes, but for argument's sake), then it's also almost certain that one or more civilizations evolved, lived out it's natural progression, and died out with when it's sun did long before the earth cooled.

Mind boggling to think about it.

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Yes, and I'll add that even if sentient life were not the 'norm' there are still billions of stars in the galaxy similar to our sun (identified now as Kepler stars) with planetary systems that could sustain life, many of which are billions of years older than our sun.

And that's just in our galaxy.

Then consider that there are about 200 billion galaxies in the universe that formed from the Big Bang. And Keplar stars with rocky exoplanets planets began forming 2.6 billion years after the Big Bang, which equates to 11.2 billion years ago, and the raw number of planetary systems that could have sustained life prior to ours speaks to the practical improbability that it didn't or doesn't presently exist elsewhere to be pretty close to zero.

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Why would you like to think that? I am curious, what does it do for you personally?

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I think the universe tends towards life ... that is, there are many way repeating configurations happen, and they build up, store energy and evolved, eventually acquiring energy transformation and storage, movement, manipulation, brains, consciousness, intelligence and whatever comes next after that assuming they can survive the temptation to destroy themselves. There is so much interesting stuff about life on planet Earth, but we are so stupid to be killing it faster than we can study it, all so a few unintelligent people can play domination games. I think we have to assume that we are fairly normal expression of what life evolved towards, and that is scary.

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Not humans, but some form of life. They might look, sound, communicate different. I guess we'll never know, but it must be a possibility. I would imagine there are hundreds of different life forms throughout the universe. But I doubt they would want to come here and stay, thinking life on Earth is definitely inferior. Just look at our world today. Wars, wars, wars, shootings, etc.

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