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The Great Replacement Theory


Let's talk about the Great Replacement...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR3UCAFMCE0

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Anyone that denies it is either a shill or a treasonous cuck.

I'm surprised that YT hasn't blocked that video.

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It seems like The Great Replacement is less of a concerted effort than more of the same of the "elite" subsection of capitalism looking to exploit cheap labor so as to maximize profits for owners and shareholders.

The interesting part is hearing stories about grandparents working day jobs and retiring with millions in the bank and owning multiple properties. The exploitation of workers is at a new high in the US and is taken for granted as "normal." Fortunately for the poor downtrodden billionaires, even the nominally high paying tech sector will not have to worry about compensating workers since anyone seeking a raise or benefits will be able to be quickly replaced.

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That's the thing — regardless of why it's happening, it is happening. Yet every time the obvious is pointed out, people dismiss it as a conspiracy theory because that’s what Wikipedia and the establishment have conditioned them to believe. It’s as if people refuse not only to think for themselves but also to believe what they can see with their own eyes. Now, if someone claims that Jews are orchestrating a sinister effort to wipe out White people, sure, you could call that a conspiracy theory. I still believe such claims should be debated openly rather than dismissed outright, but it wouldn’t be unreasonable to label that as speculative.

However, when it comes to straightforward facts — that White people are being replaced by foreigners brought into their countries while the White population declines — that’s not a theory, it’s a reality. It is literally replacement, and it’s unfolding right before our eyes. Denying this is either profoundly ignorant or a form of gaslighting.

As for why it’s happening, I think there are multiple factors at play. Businesses want cheap labor; elites seek more consumers and a larger workforce to drive profits, especially for bankers and corporations on Wall Street. Meanwhile, politicians tout higher GDP as evidence of a thriving economy, even if that growth comes at the expense of the native population. Each group benefits in its own way, but the costs are borne by the people being replaced.

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I don't doubt what you've said. In fact I'm inclined to agree. Where I differ is that this is a deliberate effort to dilute the ethnicity.

In fact it would be easier to decry all of this if that's what was happening. Rather than some hard flex by the WEF or another equivalent "conspiracy theory," this is most easily and readily explained by a profit seeking class looking to exploit cheap labor. The ensuing conundrum is a wonderful distraction from the ever present profits experienced in the interim. We can fight about trannies, faggots and beaners on the border, but so long as the bottom line is upheld, all is well.

Sort of a tangent here but nonetheless:

Person A from the US is looking to enter into a career with benefits, long-term pay outs in the form of raises and pensions, and a belief that they will be part of a company and that their personal investment in that company will be reciprocated.

Person B from India wants a paycheck fixed at the contract rate. The end.

Which person is a profit seeking company going to hire? Which one does it make sense to replace every so often before the likes of union conditions and raises become a factor?

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No, I totally agree with you, and I apologize if I came across as criticizing you — I wasn’t. My post was actually a subtle jab at FilmFlaneur. Whenever I bring up the replacement of White people, he jumps in to dismiss the Great Replacement as a conspiracy theory, as if that somehow refutes the argument. It’s a complete strawman because I’m not making claims about who is behind it — I’m just pointing out the reality on the ground: it’s happening.

As for the reasons why, you and I are basically on the same page. I think it’s primarily economic. That said, since you brought up the WEF, I do believe they play a role. They seem to exert significant influence over the kinds of policies implemented in the West, so I’m sure they have their own motivations for encouraging the influx of foreigners into Western countries. George Soros is another key figure. His Open Society Foundation has openly advocated for these policies. I remember Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban addressing the EU on this very issue, where he read aloud a letter published by Soros in Project Syndicate. In it, Soros outlined his plan for the EU to accept millions of migrants and asylum seekers. You can see Orban discussing this here:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TRKdbd2QKZc

So, it seems like multiple factions of the elite are involved in this. I don’t necessarily think it’s a coordinated effort to destroy White people — although I’m open to the possibility, and it wouldn’t shock me if some of these actors do want that outcome. Regardless of their motivations, the effect remains the same: the replacement of White people and the destruction of our culture.

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It's definitely happening. The impetus is there, for sure. I don't doubt that there are parties like the WEF that are interested in destroying the status quo so that it might be reinvented for other purposes. In a way that's the perfect "strawman" as people on these forums are prone to state; this nebulous distraction will only serve the interests of the moneyed, however it plays out. I believe that you're familiar with this routine, it goes something like this:

The rich get richer and the poorer get poorer.

Ethnic compositions, environmental concerns, Trump v. Biden...it's all secondary to economic exploitation. Those who who are able will maximize their profits under the pretense of whatever is popular, and what's popular will be shaped to some extent by those with a monetary interest in doing so, in the likes of media manipulation and so on.

100 years from now, I don't believe that there will be a discussion about replacement. Instead, the emphasis will be on economic motivations, aka cheap labor, serving the interests of production and the evolution of states into whatever form they end up assuming.

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Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxd23UVID7k

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That's a fitting and funny song.

What I have in mind is closer to destroying 2000 years of culture:

https://youtu.be/wuxW_PlmHcA

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That works too.

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Whenever I bring up the replacement of White people, he jumps in to dismiss the Great Replacement as a conspiracy theory, as if that somehow refutes the argument. It’s a complete strawman because I’m not making claims about who is behind it ....[AND YET] it seems like multiple factions of the elite are involved in this.... George Soros is another key figure.


Oh dear.

"The “great replacement” theory is inherently white supremacist. It depends on stoking fears that a non-white population, which the theory’s proponents characterize as “inferior,” will displace a white majority. It is also antisemitic. Some proponents of the “great replacement” do not explicitly attribute the plot to Jews. Instead, they blame powerful Jewish individuals such as financier and philanthropist George Soros or use coded antisemitic language to identify shadowy “elites” or “globalists.”"

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/05/17/racist-great-replacement-conspiracy-theory-explained

If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck...

Replacement Theory is just the result of demographic anxiety, seen through the prism of racism and the tropes of conspiracies by 'them' against 'us'. It neglects the fact that most migration is not worked by mysterious elites to an insidious and traitorous plan (although encouraged sometimes for economic reasons) but is simply through people seeking a better life. In the UK the vast majority of immigration is legal, and is seen by some sectors of the economy as absolutely crucial while often see as bringing direct economic benefit. But good post, up to your provocative best.

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A denier spotted. 👆

Which category do you belong to, the gaslighting shill or the treasonous cuck?

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Loaded question, and ad hominem, spotted.

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Deflection and Evasion noted.

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Please explain with examples.

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Oh dear.
Ad Hominem noted.
Red Herring Fallacy noted.

Once again, you’ve ignored the points I’ve raised, especially the most crucial one: you haven’t challenged the truth of anything I’ve said. Instead, you’ve resorted to labeling my observations about the replacement of my people as racist, white supremacist, and anti-Semitic, accusing me of stoking fear. But even if all those accusations were true, how would that make my statements factually incorrect?

Bringing up George Soros doesn’t make my argument anti-Semitic simply because he happens to be Jewish. By that logic, accusing any Jewish person of wrongdoing would be anti-Semitic. I’m not claiming that Soros is acting the way he does because he's a Jew. I’m merely pointing out facts: he has a plan, he has explicitly published this plan for all to see, and he wields significant influence in the West to make it a reality. I’ve never said Soros is solely responsible, nor have I claimed that replacement is part of some grand Jewish conspiracy. I’ve stated clearly that the reasons are largely economic.

I don’t want my people to be replaced. I want White Europeans and their culture to be preserved. Right now, our culture is being dismantled, and our people are being replaced in the very homelands our ancestors built. We’re losing them. Every other group has the right to advocate for their survival and heritage, and they do so without condemnation. Yet when White people desire the same, we’re vilified as racist and told to stay silent and accept our erasure. Well, I refuse.

Any White person who actively supports or passively accepts their own replacement has, in my view, been thoroughly brainwashed by anti-White propaganda. There’s something profoundly wrong with anyone who can advocate for or remain indifferent to their own people’s erasure. They’ve abandoned their heritage and betrayed their identity. It’s not just sad — it’s disgusting, and it’s infuriating.

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"I don’t want my people to be replaced. I want White Europeans and their culture to be preserved. Right now, our culture is being dismantled, and our people are being replaced in the very homelands our ancestors built. We’re losing them. Every other group has the right to advocate for their survival and heritage, and they do so without condemnation. Yet when White people desire the same, we’re vilified as racist and told to stay silent and accept our erasure. Well, I refuse.

Any White person who actively supports or passively accepts their own replacement has, in my view, been thoroughly brainwashed by anti-White propaganda. There’s something profoundly wrong with anyone who can advocate for or remain indifferent to their own people’s erasure. They’ve abandoned their heritage and betrayed their identity. It’s not just sad — it’s disgusting, and it’s infuriating."

Agreed on all accounts and such a thing should be regarded as self evident. It was awhile back, but I recall having a conversation with Skavau where he was arguing that ethnic composition was irrelevant so long as acculturation occurs. This is a bogus fantasy for those looking to rationalize cosmopolitan sentiments with party affiliations and associated policies, but it was telling of that mentality. This fantasy is also fueled at least in part from top down propaganda, whether media controlled by economic interests or special interest groups like those controlled by Soros.

There is a definite valuation going on here. So long as those in power to continue to prize cheap labor over ethnic composition, we will continue to see the likes of mass immigration enabled, temporary or permanent. It doesn't matter if the subject is picking tomatoes in fields or, now, coding positions in Silicon Valley; the drive is the same.

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Oh, I know. While it’s no surprise that a progressive like Skavau would make such an argument, the ones I find most insufferable are the CivNats (Civic Nationalists). These so-called conservatives parrot essentially the same line: as long as immigrants come here legally and assimilate into our culture, it's all good man.

This is absurd. Consider this thought experiment: if all the Japanese people were replaced by Indians who spoke Japanese, wore traditional Japanese clothing, practiced Japanese customs, and continued to build Japanese architecture in the same style, would they truly be Japanese? Of course not. The world would suffer a profound loss if ethnic Japanese disappeared entirely. So why would it be any different with White people?

And let’s not pretend the culture would remain the same, no matter how hard anyone tried to replicate it. Different peoples, shaped by different histories, and carrying different genetic legacies, will inevitably create a different culture. The idea that people are blank slates who can seamlessly adapt to any cultural framework is a discredited myth. Culture is deeply intertwined with the people who create it — their history, their values, their genes. It’s a whole package.

Replacing one group with an entirely different one and expecting the same outcome is nonsensical. How any reasonable person could fail to see this obvious truth with even a little thought is beyond me.

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Exactly. At best, such acculturation will result in a synthesis or hybrid culture. There will be no absolute assimilation and even the most optimistic outcome still results in a dilution of the culture. I recall telling Skavau something similar in that a night at a pub with a second generation Nigerian immigrant in Ireland would be a poor approximation of drinking with an Irishman.

It's interesting too when I read about somewhere like Japan with a declining birthrate. Cheap housing? A market that favors workers because of a lack of inordinate competition from overpopulation? And these are bad things that must be compensated for? On the contrary, it sounds great to me.

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If you want to use words and terms like 'racial and cultural purity' don't hold back. Spell it out.

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What am I holding back?

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The example words I just gave. It is, after all, such a small step.

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Is it really, though? What is it a small step towards?

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Take a wild guess. That's all from me here.

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You've lost me.

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like those controlled by Soros.


Oh dear. And he just happens to be Jewish and at the centre of different conspiracy theories, right?

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Should the preoccupations of the WEF be dismissed because Soros is Jewish? I'm not sure what you're implying here.

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Soros is at the centre of a number of common antisemitic conspiracy theories, such as the one which prompted this thread.

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Does a reference to the activities of the WEF necessitate conspiracy theories and antisemitism? I'm not sure that I'm following you.

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Oh please.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/authors/georgesoros/

https://www.newsweek.com/george-soros-world-economic-forum-davos-conspiracy-theories-1774248

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXyu8u_hsIA

The whole theme of this thread is GRT and the reference I picked up of yours, enough to comment on, was of Soros and what he controls. Don't be disingenuous.

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There's no need to make such personal accusations, or an "ad hominem" attack as I see you refer to it with such frequency. I'm trying to understand the pretenses here that subsume any discussion of a topic such as "GRT" are synonymous with antisemitism and conspiracy theories. Does the topic alone warrant dismissal and pejorative labels, or is there something I or CM said specifically that provoked that response from you?

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any discussion of a topic such as "GRT" are synonymous with antisemitism and conspiracy theories


Because that is what Great Replacement Theory is.

... such personal accusations


As for ad hominems, I have not accused anyone on this thread personally of racism, although CuriousMind has openly admitted to being exactly that on other threads. If you chose to be associated with GRT's characteristic arguments (and reference its bogey man) that is up to you - but it is reasonable to judge someone by the company and ideas they keep.

Does the topic alone warrant dismissal and pejorative labels,

Concerns about immigration and problems with assimilation are one thing. Obsession over supposed 'replacement', 'dilution of culture' 'different genetic legacies,' 'survival' (of the white race) etc are something else again and are often connected with racism and white supremacy. The argument you claim to make is an economic one. Always it is though, eventually, a racial one: whether demonising those, usually non-europeans, who just wish to make a better life for themselves, or characterising those who supposedly work their wicked plans to 'replace' us all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement_conspiracy_theory

https://www.eurozine.com/demographic-panic/

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"There is no 'replacement' plan in the doomsday terms you insist on, no conspiracy by Jews or elites, no looming 'destruction' of (always white, naturally) culture. It is just demographic change, which always happens. Get over it, stop feeling sorry for yourself and seeking to blame (never white) minorities."

"Concerns about immigration and problems with assimilation are one thing. Obsession over supposed 'replacement', 'dilution of culture' 'different genetic legacies,' 'survival' (of the white race) etc are something else again and are often connected with racism and white supremacy."

It seems that while you acknowledge the occurrence of what you're apparently resigned towards accepting, your objective here is deride those with a negative perception of it or to critique assessments of causes. Do you have constructive speculations of your own to offer for examination, or is derision your only goal here?

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It seems that while you acknowledge the occurrence of what you're apparently resigned towards accepting

I have never denied the reality of demographic change. I just don't see it as a conspiracy against white people.

your objective here is deride those with a negative perception of it


GRT, the theme of this thread, is rather more than that.

Do you have constructive speculations of your own to offer for examination


Not read above where I said say that most immigrants are here to start a new life for themselves, not pawns in a traitorous game by 'the elite' Jewish or not then?. In the UK the vast majority of immigration is legal, and is seen by some sectors of the economy as absolutely crucial while often see as bringing direct economic benefit. Ultimately GRT is just a specifically racist argument against a diverse society. Mainstream scholars have dismissed these claims of a conspiracy of "replacist" elites as rooted in a misunderstanding of demographic statistics and premised upon an unscientific, racist worldview. Glad to help.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/buffalo-shooting-great-replacement-theory-b2080389.html

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-twisted-logic-behind-the-rights-great-replacement-arguments/

or to critique assessments of causes.

And that is a wrong thing to do because....

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you haven’t challenged the truth of anything I’ve said.

Not even when I said, just earlier, that "most immigration is not worked by elites to an insidious and traitorous plan (although encouraged sometimes for economic reasons) but is simply through people seeking a better life"? There is no 'replacement' plan in the doomsday terms you insist on, no conspiracy by Jews or elites, no looming 'destruction' of (always white, naturally) culture. It is just demographic change, which always happens. Get over it, stop feeling sorry for yourself and seeking to blame (never white) minorities.

Instead, you’ve resorted to labeling my observations about the replacement of my people as racist, white supremacist, and anti-Semitic,


All things one remembers that you have admitted to being at times on this board, in jest or not. So why would one not quite reasonably attribute those motives behind things you post?

But even if all those accusations were true, how would that make my statements factually incorrect?


On those accusations alone, this is not something I have suggested. You ought to know better than that.

Bringing up George Soros doesn’t make my argument anti-Semitic simply because he happens to be Jewish.


Again not something I said - which was simply to point out that you use phrases and (despite your claim to the contrary) to suggest a particular person who could be behind things, including this powerful Jewish individual allied with the 'elite' - tropes common to GRT, as I showed. However you wish to phrase it, and try to disassociate from things, ultimately Replacement Theory is a conspiracy theory rooted in the belief that the white race is under threat of extinction at the hands of Jews and other minorities like Muslims. Is their implied culpability something you reject outright?

I’ve never said Soros is solely responsible, nor have I claimed that replacement is part of some grand Jewish conspiracy. I’ve stated clearly that the reasons are largely economic.

And most aspects of what you say, and the only named conspirator just happen to bear a striking resemblance to a well known antisemitic conspiracy theory? Got it.

[Soros] has a plan, he has explicitly published this plan for all to see


Lets see it then. And if he is not solely responsible, why mention only him by name and tell us that is he who has the 'plan'?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros_conspiracy_theories

https://antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Final-George-Soros-Briefing.pdf

I don’t want my people to be replaced. I want White Europeans and their culture to be preserved. Right now, our culture is being dismantled, and our people are being replaced in the very homelands our ancestors built. We’re losing them. Every other group has the right to advocate for their survival and heritage, and they do so without condemnation. Yet when White people desire the same, we’re vilified as racist and told to stay silent and accept our erasure (etc)


‘Demographic anxiety can be a powerful thing can't it? If as white you are concerned about all these dangers the answer is simple. Reduce the majority (i.e. legal immigration) and let essential services go to the wall (thinking of the UK here especially) ... and make more whites.

And btw, words like 'survival' 'replaced' are such dog whistles.

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Every time you post gaslighting propaganda, you embarrass yourself like a clown.

Do you really believe that no one else here has access to the same information?

Are you deluded into thinking that citing propaganda constantly makes you look smart or clever?

Evading and deflecting with definitions of fallacies exposes your weakness.

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gaslighting

Please show where I have gaslighted.

Do you really believe that no one else here has access to the same information?


What I know is that no one else has linked to any evidence contrary to what I say. And it is certainly not worth waiting for you to do so is it?.

Are you deluded into thinking that citing propaganda constantly makes you look smart or clever?

Then feel free to provide your alternative sources... oh yes, that's right... LOL

Evading and deflecting with definitions of fallacies

It was actually CM who posted, on this thread

"Ad Hominem noted.
Red Herring Fallacy noted."

So perhaps you have things mixed up again?

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What I know is that no one else has linked to any evidence contrary to what I say.

Then feel free to provide your alternative sources


Because no one else is interested in having a contest of propaganda links with a regime shill.

So perhaps you have things mixed up again?

No mix up, it's you that always evades and deflects with fallacy excuses and citing their definitions.

It was actually CM who posted, on this thread

He was making fun of your usual dumbassery by echoing you.

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Because one else is interested in having a contest of propaganda links


Or more likely contrary evidence is hard to find. For instance in all our exchanges down the weeks on this board you have offered hardly anything to rebutt my arguments, instead preferring to insult.

a regime shill.
QED

No mix up,

No it was definitely him, and my quote from taken from this thread

...fallacy excuses and citing their definitions.

To avoid this in future then, I suggest simply avoiding using fallacious arguments. But you won't.

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The evidence is there for free thinkers capable of doing their own research for the truth.

Everything you cite is gaslighting propaganda, misinformation and disinformation that others have access to. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Once again, no mix up, he was contemptuously echoing you.

To avoid this in future then, I suggest simply avoiding using fallacious arguments.

At least you conceded my point.

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The evidence is there for free thinkers capable of doing their own research


It is just that in almost every case you cannot do this and show us your working? Excuses noted.

Everything you cite is gaslighting propaganda, misinformation and disinformation that others have access to


I've noted your rejection out of hand of anything you find inconvenient before..

At least you conceded my point.

I concede that you often argue through fallacies and that will be addressed by me as always.

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I concede that you often argue through fallacies and that will be addressed by me as always.

You're still confirming my point.

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I was just 'contemptuously echoing' you, of course... lol

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Evasion and Deflection noted.

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Please be more specific. but you wont.

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Lack of understanding of sarcasm noted.

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"‘Demographic anxiety can be a powerful thing can't it?"

Is it 'demographic anxiety' when others besides whites want to preserve their culture also? Do Jews and Blacks have 'demographic anxiety'?

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Within Jewish culture, attitudes prioritizing endogamous marriage -– that which is only between two Jews –- have been criticised as racist.

https://forward.com/community/381835/are-your-jewish-views-on-intermarriage-racist/

In regards to blacks you will have to be more specific.

However imho it shows itself to a most extreme and ugliest extent among those whites jealous of their privileges, provincial towards different cultures and who dislike diversity. So much so that they have to make up grand racist conspiracies to put themselves in the right.

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I thought we were talking about sexy Indians?

Damn kids with their ADHD.

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We are talking about Indians, but not the sexy ones.

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Who the hell wants to talk about ugly Indians?

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Nobody wants to talk about them, but they’re being brought into our countries, bringing their stink with them — leaving us no choice but to talk about them.

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"Ours"? The Americas belong to the Indigenous people. Most people crossing the border are Indigenous or Indigenous-mixed.

You can return to Europe.

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Which indigenous people? ...

Prove which ones are the original indigenous people of the Americas without citing or quoting internet scriptures.

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They belong to the people who conquered them, founded the country, and built it into the greatest nation in the world — that would be White Europeans.

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White Identity Politics.

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White Power!

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America is slowly becoming a third world country with all the illegals that have poured in since 1986.

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Bring in the third world, become the third world.

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Great post by curiousMInd101!

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Thank you! I do my best, and I’m glad you enjoyed it.

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I do indeed! Give us more.

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No one is being replaced. Western civilization is merely becoming more diverse and multicultural.

And people of color have always been in Europe and Britain, so this is nothing new. It's just becoming more so.

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This is far too sensible a perspective to carry much weight here.

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Only a racist would be worried that there could be more people of color in a place than white people like themselves. Besides, that's not even going to be possible for a generation or two in the US, and even longer from now in Western Europe, if it even happens there at all.

/high five

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There’s nothing inherently racist about wanting a homeland exclusive to your own people, where their culture and heritage are preserved without being overrun by foreigners who neither share your blood nor your traditions. Every other race or ethnic group does this, yet somehow, when White Europeans do it, it’s labeled as racist. Calling this racist is absurd — a knee-jerk reaction from those afflicted by woke brain rot. But, in a world where woke ideology holds significant cultural sway, everything reasonable and normal is now branded racist, homophobic, sexist, or bigoted. That’s just the reality we live in. By these standards, sure, I’m a racist — and I see that as a good thing. I encourage other White people to embrace what’s best for their own race. Maybe if more of them did, we’d stand a chance of reclaiming our nations.

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Throwing around right wing buzzwords like "woke" is what racists do.

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I am a racist — so what? Not only am I a racist, but I'm also proud of it, which is exactly why I'm a White Nationalist. I’m also a sexist, homophobe, transphobe, xenophobe, misogynist, Islamophobe, fatphobe, colonialist, colorist, and ableist. I wear each of these labels like a badge of honor.




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White Fucking Power!
Seig Heil o/

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If the native population is shrinking, while the foreign, non-White population is flooding into the country and rapidly growing, what else would you call that but replacement?

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Western civilization is merely becoming more diverse and multicultural.

Translation: Whites are being replaced

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https://x.com/liz_churchill10/status/1875551250449887614

This is what the Jewish George Soros-World Economic Forum ‘Replacement Migration Policies’ looks like in full effect.

Today, jewish Soros was nominated for a Presidential ‘Medal of Freedom’.

You can’t make this up. Lol.

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Giving Soros an award like that is like giving Hitler the "Best Jew of the Year" award. That's how messed up that situation is.

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https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Great_Replacement

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/White_genocide

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That’s all complete and utter nonsense — straight-up anti-White propaganda and gaslighting. It’s been thoroughly debunked, and the Great Replacement is not only real, it's happening right in front of everyone’s eyes in every Western nation. Anyone who denies it is either staggeringly ignorant or a despicable anti-White piece of filth intentionally pushing this agenda.

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