Demovrat/progressive ideology destroyed in one fell swoop
This may be his best yet.
https://youtu.be/h7gx2Zr9Qnw?si=10B_GpN76-ssuJNC
Ah yes, Russell Brand. Lmao epic source.
No I'm not watching 25 minutes of that clown. Guy still has Vaccine derangement syndrome. Oh and he has an obsession about UFOs.
He's a huge grifter. Have you actually checked his Rumble?
I already knew you were a moron.
shareBrilliant response, as always. Russell Brand is a literal clown who is the laughing stock of the UK
shareHe's ruined any movie he's been in.
shareBut you are a moron and Brand is a comedian, so yes, people will laugh.
Brand was simply elaborating on facts and truth, two things that are impossible from you.
>But you are a moron and Brand is a comedian, so yes, people will laugh.
Laughing stock as in people *laugh at him*. He's genuinely an unpopular idiot in the UK
>Brand was simply elaborating on facts and truth, two things that are impossible from you.
Were you a fan of Russell Brand when he was a lefty progressive a few years ago?
"Were you a fan of Russell Brand when he was a lefty progressive a few years ago?"
Why is it you guys seem to think this is some "gotcha moment"?
Some people see what's happening and change their stance. If anything, it's a victory for people who value truth. Lincoln changed his stance on slavery which was a feather in his cap and an indication of true progress, not a black mark against him. Russel may be a bit unconventional but what he's saying is not wrong. Also, he was a "lefty progressive" when he had huge substance abuse problems, but he sobered up and changed his life. One could argue that he's thinking a lot clearer now.
I mean it's more accurate that he's just grifting senseless twaddle. His videos are schizophrenic rantings about the NWO, vaccines and UFOs amongst other nonsensical crap.
shareI'm not saying he's right or wrong about UFOs or whatever, but of all the people I know, the one's who got the vaccine are the ones who got COVID multiple times and didn't have an easy time with it. I have no explanation, but we all know that behind conspiracy theories, there are sometimes actual conspiracies.
shareHi. I've had the vaccine and have only had COVID once. I literally know no-one who has had adverse reaction to the vaccine.
Nice to meet you
Well, that's good and if you don't know anyone, that's good too but I didn't say anything about adverse reactions. What I did say to sum it up, is that according to what I've seen, it's efficacy doesn't seem to be all it's cracked up to be.
sharehttps://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status
shareYeah? So? What if that is not really true? It may be but neither of us know with absolute certainty. What we do know is we have been lied to by the government before.
shareOn what evidence are you claiming that all the data points about the impact of the vaccines compiled and scrutinised by every single health organisation involving thousands of doctors, and researchers are all lies?
shareI didn't say it is all lies, did I? I just said I don't automatically accept that it's truth.
shareSo what are the "lies"? You are literally implying that there's a global conspiracy involving essentially almost every every single medical research institution, every single public health service to fabricate data to claim that the vaccine is effective at mitigating the impact of COVID. It's beyond absurd. It would require the collaboration of tens of thousands of doctors, epidemiologists and researchers.
shareI'm not implying anything. Do you think the government lies? Yes or no.
As a side note, that's not a government website.
Another side note, there are literally tens of thousands of doctors, epidemiologists and researchers with political and social agendas.
>I'm not implying anything. Do you think the government lies? Yes or no.
A lie of this magnitude would go way beyond any particular government.
>Another side note, there are literally tens of thousands of doctors, epidemiologists and researchers with political and social agendas.
So are you are suggesting then that the entire scientific, and medical community are collaborating to pretend a vaccine works when it actually doesn't?
I'm not suggesting anything. Read what I wrote.
P.S. You didn't answer my simple yes or no question.
Yes, governments lie. It would be preposterous to think that they could lie about this, nor would I understand remotely what the motive would be.
>I'm not suggesting anything. Read what I wrote.
Yes you are. You're suggesting all data points on this which overwhelmingly back up the vaccines effectiveness are dodgy.
It's really not at all preposterous and there are reams of articles, etc. that talk about what their motives could be that you can find without asking me for them.
sharePreposterous not only in motive, but ability. This would mean that governments that otherwise barely get along all collaborate with all of their scientists and researchers to push a fake narrative about a vaccine.
All of them are pants-on-head conspiracy nonsense bullshit without exception.
They would say the same about you. Look, I see the real world results of leftist ideology every day. Graphs and charts are not the same.
share>They would say the same about you.
And they're wrong.
>Look, I see the real world results of leftist ideology every day.
Not sure what data on the effectiveness of a vaccine logged by public health organisations and research groups has to do with "leftist ideology".
And they would say you are wrong.
Hint: Control.
>Hint: Control.
Control to what? The vaccine is old news now. It's only Russell Brand and other griftes with vaccine derangement syndrome who rant on about it. Nothing has happened. There were no microchips. Restrictions have gone. The world has moved on.
And leftism has no direct correlation with "control".
"And leftism has no direct correlation with "control""
Now that's "pants on head" nonsense if I've ever heard it!
The left is ALL about control.
I await evidence for this claim.
shareYou dumbasses are hopeless.
shareJust more petty insults
shareWhen you say silly shit like denying the lefty desire for control, and then stonewall on that,
you are the one being rude.
He made a claim. I asked him to back it up.
In what way, as a point of definition, is the left all about "control"?
In the way that they are constantly trying to control US and the shit we do, say, even THINK.
Cancel culture is all about destroying people who dare to not submit to the control of lefties. For ONE limited example.
>In the way that they are constantly trying to control US and the shit we do, say, even THINK.
In what way are they doing this specifically? With what proposed policies?
>Cancel culture is all about destroying people who dare to not submit to the control of lefties. For ONE limited example.
Do private companies and individuals have the right to associate with who they want, or not?
And are you implying the right does not attempt "cancel culture" by way of boycotts? I seem to recall the Bud light incident being precisely that.
In any case, I am after specific proposed policies.
1. It is an asshole move to demand an example when I already gave you one.
2. Irrelevant to the point. The example I gave is an example of lefty desire for control.
3. Nope. The bud light response was a DENIAL TO a leftuy attempt at control.
1. No, you didn't name any particular policies.
2. This does not follow. Refusing to hire someone does not mean that you want to "control" anything, and refusing to engage in a product doesn't mean you want to "control" anything.
3. What "control" was Bud light attempting to impose exactly?
1. I named a lefty activity aimed at control.
2. Cancel culture is about demanding submission to liberal beliefs though fear. That is CONTROL. Your denial is absurd.
3. They were trying to make the drinking of their beer a symbolic acceptance of trannies as normal. Similar to the way lefties like to do stupid shit like, "monday is pride jean day, wear jeans to sohw support for fags".
1. It's not an inherent "lefty activity". And I am more interested in actual POLICIES proposed by left-wing politicians. To be clear, the left *can be* controlling - but so can much of the right-wing.
2. "Cancel culture" isn't some uniform response meted out to people by some centralised organisation. It's a response by individuals and companies whenever someone does something the company doesn't want to be associated with. It's always existed as a social consequence. Nazis have been victims of "cancel culture" for decades. Is that wrong? Is that a "form of control"
3. How did they do that? By hiring a transperson influencer to advertise thir product? Why does that impact you at all? Should companies not be permitted to show transpeople existing? Is there something wrong with transpeople drinking beer?
1. The cancel culture movement is lefty.
2. It's a mob type movement. It is a lefty mob or series of mobs that demand conformity at the threat of social, economic destruction or even physical violence.
3. By celebrating a very bad tranny influencer, and thus making the drinking of their product an endorsement of the nomarmality of trannys.
1. I am talking about legislation here. The right would, if given total legislative power, implement civil liberty restrictions.
2. There's no reason to regard it as a "mob" anymore than the Bud Light response by conservatives as being a "mob".
3. This is cancel culture. You believe that any company who "celebrates" transpeople as just people should be boycotted. You are outright openly in favour of them being blacklisted from civil society.
1. Nonsense.
2. That was a response to your about it not being centralized. StOP PLAYING DUMB.
3. When a company takes sides in a political fight, they are the one that chooses to align their name and product with a political side. It is an attempt to cooopt their customers support,without their consent.
1. The current speaker of the HoR literally has on many occasions spoken about his desire to bring back sodomy laws.
2. It's not centralised. It's not a "mob". No reason to believe its either.
3. Transpeople existing in public is a "political fight"?
Not all of the scientists and physicians.
SAFE AND EFFECTIVE LIES: 17,000 Scientists and Physicians confirm that Governments around the world along with Corporations willfully and deliberately lied to humanity about the Covid vaccines. They must be charged with fraud, wrongful advertising and mass negligent homicide.share
The data now shows that the Covid vaccinated are more likely to become infected or have disease or even death if they have been Vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated people. The Covid Vaccines damage your heart, brain, reproductive tissue, lungs, increase cancer and permanently damage your immune system.
There's always a source: https://www.factcheck.org/person/robert-malone/
This is from a guy called "Robert Malone". I'd like his numbers for his 17,000 scientists and physicians.
lmao, Are you seriously going to cite "fact checkers" that lies and deceives with misinformation and disinformation?
shareProvide evidence that the factchecks here are wrong please. Again, you just making claims doesn't make them automatically true. Why should I trust a guy with a terrible reputation in the medical community at all?
Where is his data for his 17,000 scientists?
Well according to him, they are all liars and are in conspiracy, which also according to him, a conspiracy of that magnitude is "preposterous".
shareThere's always a source: https://www.factcheck.org/person/robert-malone/
This is from a guy called "Robert Malone". I'd like his numbers for his 17,000 scientists and physicians.
Also, to test your consistency - do you assume the medical and science field lie about all research? Do you assume any doctor you see is literally just paid off to lie to you about everything?
shareSome lie since they are funded and others are misinformed/uninformed.
shareWhat ones lie? And what are they lying about? Do you know which ones are lying and funded?
shareDo you? No, you don't.
shareI don't hold the weird assumption that every single doctor and researcher is in on and working with some global conspiracy.
shareNo. You just say "thank you sir. Can I have another."
I question things. You don't if they support your leftist ideology. I'll bet you still say Jussie Smollett was attacked by MAGA racists.
>No. You just say "thank you sir. Can I have another."
Are you suggesting people should assume all their doctors are lying to them, and actually they want to hurt them, or something?
>I question things. You don't if they support your leftist ideology.
And what things, as a part of my "leftist ideology" do I supposedly support?
>I'll bet you still say Jussie Smollett was attacked by MAGA racists.
I've never said that ever.
First, I have never said "all".
Second. I never said that you said that. It is an opinion. But since you mention it, do you think that?
Also, do you think that Trump told people to inject themselves with bleach and that he said KKK are good people?
>First, I have never said "all".
So how many then?
>Second. I never said that you said that. It is an opinion. But since you mention it, do you think that?
No, Jussie Smollett was a conman grifter.
>Also, do you think that Trump told people to inject themselves with bleach and that he said KKK are good people?
Trump suggested, with no medical knowledge, injecting people with disinfectant.
And no, he didn't say that.
Can you tell me how the left is intrinsically "about control"?
That doctor was not the only one but there were many others that confirmed and verified it.
The information was at a press conference from the GCS Global Covid Summit.
>That doctor was not the only one but there were many others that confirmed and verified it.
Name these doctors please. Provide some sources.
One proven liar is Fauci. You know, The chief medical advisor to the president.
shareAnd what did Fauci lie about?
And does Fauci lying about something somehow conscript the epidemiologists from France, UK, Germany, Sweden, Spain, Canada, Finland, Australia etc to also join in?
Also, tvfan was claiming that other doctors have spoken out but he hasn't named names.
https://nypost.com/2023/07/31/dr-anthony-faucis-caught-in-his-biggest-covid-lie-yet/
And how about this from MSN:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/3-biggest-lies-of-fauci-that-american-s-won-t-forget/ar-AA1f9sI0
>https://nypost.com/2023/07/31/dr-anthony-faucis-caught-in-his-biggest-covid-lie-yet/
This apparently went nowhere. And also this has nothing to do with the effictiveness of the vaccine.
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/3-biggest-lies-of-fauci-that-american-s-won-t-forget/ar-AA1f9sI0
This also has nothing to do with the effectiveness of the vaccine.
And does Fauci lying about something somehow conscript the epidemiologists from France, UK, Germany, Sweden, Spain, Canada, Finland, Australia etc to also join in?
I didn't say it has anything to do with the effectiveness of the vaccine. It illustrates that lies can and do come from very high up and to think that they could be lying about vaccine efficacy is not a stretch.
shareRight, so it's a US-political thing.
And we're back to the ludicrous claim that you think every single government, every single health organisation, every single research department on every corner of the global involving probably hundreds of thousands of people are all involved in a cover-up where they are hiding that the vaccine does nothing.
The ludicrous claim is you saying that I claimed "every single".
In your words, provide source please and make sure they say "every single", or "all" or any such superlatives.
>The ludicrous claim is you saying that I claimed "every single".
So why isn't there a single health organisation or government warning the world about the COVID jab?
Nice dodge...
Listen, my whole point is it's a good practice to question things. I feel that you don't if it fits your ideology. Did you watch the OP's video? I did and I've never seen or heard about Brand's ideas but I feel he had some compelling arguments. What (in this video) did you have issue with?
I'd rather eat nails that listen to 25 minutes of Russell Brand eat a thesaurus and ramble on about nonsense.
I'm well aware of the dude. He's an actual clown.
As for the jab, this is the point, in order to distrust the data as a point of principle you'd have to genuinely believe that there is a global conspiracy in which every single government, medical body and research outfit are involved in. There is no escaping that.
Fauci, Gates, and others responsible for the death shot are immune from prosecution due to GoFR.
Obama quietly signed off on that shorty before he left office.
>Fauci, Gates, and others responsible for the death shot are immune from prosecution due to GoFR.
I await evidence that the shot is a "death shot".
Why? you are simply going to double down on more lies, deflection, and denials with fact checkers.
shareYou do realise that fact-checkers source their claims, right? You are free to read what they say and scrutinise their reasoning, and their sources.
Why should I simply believe you over actual analysis of your claims?
So all fact checkers are honest? C'mon man!
shareYou are welcome to scrutinise each fact-check independently. What tvfan does is just assumes that anything that disagrees with him, which he calls "internet scripture" is automatically wrong and just expects that to convince people.
Yet his own sources, somehow, don't seem to count as "internet scripture".
He also genuinely does not seem to know how words work. I mean this literally. He doesn't understand how definitions work.
You don't have to, you can do your own research.
Fact-checkers are misinformation and disinformation.
They were created when the truth started to come out.
>You don't have to, you can do your own research.
You want me to develop a confirmation bias. And I am not obliged to do "any research" on behalf of you, anymore than I am in responding to an Islamist who tells me the Quran is true.
>Fact-checkers are misinformation and disinformation.
Evidence please.
But you already have confirmation bias and you use fact checkers as a confirmation, lol.
share>But you already have confirmation bias and you use fact checkers as a confirmation, lol.
You instead just want me to, without question, trust the word of people like Robert Malone. Where is his 17k list of scientists and doctors?
On the contrary, you should definitely question, doubt, challenge, and research both sides of any argument/claim regardless of provided evidence or lack thereof.
shareAnd the factchecker sites and other medical factchecker sites scrutinise Robert Malones claims. Have you personally read them?
Where is his 17k list of scientists and doctors?
Those fact checkers are funded to discredit, lie, and obfuscate the truth.
Go watch the video of the press conference Global Covid Summit.
>Those fact checkers are funded to discredit, lie, and obfuscate the truth.
Evidence please.
And you didn't answer my question: Did you personally see if anyone had scrutinised Robert Malones claims?
Where is his 17k list of scientists and doctors?
can you not be a bitch for once and give evidence?
shareCan you take your mouth away from Trudeau's rectum for once and search for it yourself?
shareWhy should people do that? If I made a claim about Trump, would you not expect me to back it up?
shareNo, I can do my own research.
shareThis is a weird nonsensical way to approach discussions. Literally no-one does this. It's commonly expected that if you make claims, you back them up.
shareI'm not the only one, others here do the same. If you and any other leftist makes some claim without any source, we are capable of doing our own research. Nothing nonsensical about it.
share>I'm not the only one, others here do the same. If you and any other leftist makes some claim without any source, we are capable of doing our own research. Nothing nonsensical about it.
And I have done that myself. You gave me an excerpt from a guy called Robert Malone, only you didn't tell me that. So I had to google the excerpt (which didn't come up, suggesting paraphrasing) - and then I asked you for a source for his 17,000 scientists and doctors. All the site I give you, when asked, source their claims.
But it is still bad form to make claims and then refuse to back them up.
Bullslhit, You did nothing to initiate any research on your own without the blockquote that I provided.
I used to provide links or did you forget about Commie China?
Than I just used blockquotes, but that was also futile, therefore, there is no point in providing you leftoids with anything, ever.
>Bullslhit, You did nothing to initiate any research on your own without the blockquote that I provided.
No. And why the fuck should I? You made claims. You back them up.
>I used to provide links or did you forget about Commie China?
You understand that I also provided my own links there too, right? And I addressed the ones you provided.
>Than I just used blockquotes, but that was also futile, therefore, there is no point in providing you leftoids with anything, ever.
It is bad form to make claims and refuse to back them up.
The source he provided has the data backwards.
Oh, and it is also funded by Bill and Melinda Gates which tells you everything you need to know since Gates was one of the top elites that lied and pushed the death shot (already well known).
Anything on that site/source related to vaccines and climate is distorted with lies and deceptions.
Evidence please for your claims
share"Other grantors supporting the project have included the Quadrature Climate Foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and a grant from German philanthropist Susanne Klatten.[31] In the past, Our World in Data has also received grants from the World Health Organization, the Department of Health and Social Care in the United Kingdom, and the Effective Altruism Meta Fund."
Courtesy of Wikipedia.
That is not evidence for any conspiracy theories regaridng Bill and Melinda Gates. It's not evidence that they "lied" or that the shot is a "death shot".
shareNo it isn't but they are lefties with an agenda which makes me question the honesty of that site.
shareWhat "agenda" is this?
shareResearch it if you want to know. I don't think you will or that you do.
shareI've read much of the claims. They're nonsensical bullshit that misunderstand data, make ridiculous farcical claims or just outright lie.
share"Research it if you want to know"
in other words "do my work for me because im lazy"
go get evidence or be quiet
Wrong. If people want to know, they can find out.
You leftists are on the wrong side of history. Pure and simple and there's no reaching you.
Wrong. its called the burden of proof. you dont get to make claims and others have to find your evidence for you. its like someone saying "Sasquatch exists". they dont get to say "its true just go find the evidence". no they have to give evidence.
you can reach me. provide evidence instead of being a lazy idiot
It's not laziness but straight up stupidity. I flew to the Moon yesterday. Show your proof that I didn't do that. 🤣
sharefrom what ive see between chilone and tvfan i cannot figure out who is more retarded.
this concept of the burden of proof and why you would have to back up your claims, and not have others try and find them for you. is so obvious to anyone with a brain it baffles me how people can get through life being this ignorant
Resorting to name calling? Hilarious.
shareyou whining so you dont have to answer above? crying about what i wrote to robocat not even you? that sure is a convenient way to dodge what i said. cry more.
"what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."
you and your nonsense are dismissed
Sure lefty. I'm crying. Lol.
shareyou are still doing it right here so you can dodge. come on stop being a coward. learn what the burden of proof is. provide evidence. or go away and be a little girl elsewhere
shareYou're wasting your time. I promise you that none of of these morons have any solid evidence of their insipid claims.
shareFirst, your a child.
Second, I couldn't care less what a brainwashed leftist thinks.
You guys are hopeless.
so no evidence? and instead tried to cry like a little kid that i was mean?
you went out with a whimper. some people never become real men. they just whine
the burden of proof isnt a leftist thing. its a logic thing idiot.
Wow! You're sure impressive for someone with the writing skill of an eight year old!
Please dazzle everyone with the last word.
"Wow! You're sure impressive for someone with the writing skill of an eight year old!"
you ten minutes ago
"First, your a child."
i wouldnt pick the grammatical attack route when you mess up you are and your
you are just a whiny coward mad you got asked to back up your claims. it sucks being held accountable doesnt it whiny victim?
hahaha, you calling others a coward when you are too chicken shit to use your main account instead of this sock account.
You are going to end up in another echo chamber and start with another sock account.
you shake and cry when i make fun of you on here. look at you running from our other convo to come nip from the dark like a little rat.
you figure out what burden of proof is yet or should i start lecturing you again?
you shake and cry when i make fun of you on here.
Thanks for admitting what you experience when others reply to you; that explains why you have to use sock accounts. share
Wrong, if you dumbasses are too lazy to find any proof to counter-argue, refute, or rebuttal than you should not beg like little children to be spoon-fed the evidence.
Imbeciles like you are constantly trying to prove or demonstrate how smart you think you are by citing bullshit internet scriptures and propaganda. That only proves that you leftoids are useful idiots with scriptures/propaganda and useless idiots without it.
ive already educated you on the burden of proof. you crashed and burned when we discussed it like the idiot you are.
so again now evidence little clown boy? stop drinking the bleach tvfan
>Wrong, if you dumbasses are too lazy to find any proof to counter-argue, refute, or rebuttal than you should not beg like little children to be spoon-fed the evidence.
I've given you and others plenty of sources that contradict what you say. It's YOU who refuse to provide any supporting evidence for your claims.
>Imbeciles like you are constantly trying to prove or demonstrate how smart you think you are by citing bullshit internet scriptures and propaganda
What makes any sources I might find more "internet scripture" than Robert Malone? Why is what he says obviously true, but the word of any scientist that disagrees with him "propaganda"?
In what way are we on the "wrong side of history"?
sharego get evidence or be quiet
You should follow your own advice.
How stupid are you to continue goading others with your dumbassery requests for evidence with all that juvenile begging?!
You just don’t get it. Other idiots and clowns like you have done the same and the results were also futile.
Your desperation is evident. share
"How stupid are you to continue goading others with your dumbassery requests for evidence"
this sums up your entire ignorance and lack of intelligence
yes my "desperation" where i ask for you to prove what you say. how desperate.
lol, as you can see by his replies, that is why I don't humor their constant begging for evidence. Leftists are always in denial.
shareDenial about what? Should people just accept what you say without arguing?
Are you that much of a narcissist that you think you can never be wrong about anything?
He provided you with an answer that you could have found on your own, but you didn't bother doing any research on it since it doesn't fit your narrative, so yes, you are in denial.
shareHe simply said "the data is out there". It's just claims. I also know there are loony conspiracy nutters out there. It's not evidence. He made the claims. The onus is on him to back it up. I have provided multiple sources to him that outline the effectiveness of the vaccine.
shareyou are the one who gets constantly owned and runs away. you shit your pants daily on here you are everyones little punching bag
shareLefties only want "truth" if it fits their ideology. Looking deeper I see that that site appears to have an agenda that is not necessarily based on truth. Thanks for the heads up!
shareAnd what agenda is that?
https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00320-6/fulltext#tables
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9848037/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1284049/covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status-in-england/
How much data?
The only moron here is you. You think you're getting some "gotcha" moment with this video but you have failed miserably. Your stupidity and gullibility is palpable.
shareI only clicked a couple spots but at least one lefty was talking nonsense about trump being hitler. So, if Brand is attacking that idiot, that's a good place to start.
shareHow so? What did he say that was wrong?
share