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Any centrists here?


On this site I see people from the left complain about the right being racist, and I've seen people from the right call people from the left "retarded". I'm wondering if anyone here is like me and refuse to choose any of those sides.

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I am a centrist , I don’t align with either side I just call it like it is

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I think the world would be a better place if we all were.

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You can't be a centrist if you only agree with one side.

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I don’t care what each side is saying. I don’t align with either party, I just call it like it is.

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I call BS

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I call BS, too.

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[–] MovieChatUser497 (16185) 4 hours ago

2 years of fake investigations and witch hunts and your cult has produced nothing.

And I will once you have the courage to call on Diaper Joe, Maxine Waters and Sandy Cortez to be impeached, expelled and jailed for ordering a hit on Justice Kavanaugh


You're a right-wing nutjob, Trumpite and a liar!!!!

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Says the biggest nut-job and PROVEN liar on MC. Delete your account.

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Yep to the far left anyone stating facts is a far right conspiracy theorist. Find a new hobby you loser

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Right-wing cultists believe QAnon is factual.

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Believe me QAnon looks reasonable compared to your far left cult

EDIT: Before you say it NO I did not say QAnon was reasonable.

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"QAnon looks reasonable"

Yes, you did! I'm not surprised.

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Lol you did exactly what I predicted you would you cherry-picking libtard

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That's not cherry-picking. I'm quoting you, cultist.

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Would you mind reading what came directly after your cherrypicked quote you dishonest fuck

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"Believe me QAnon looks reasonable."

You're a cultist.

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What came directly after that? Learn how to read and answer the damn question

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You're not a centrist. Don't dodge the subject!

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Lol look who’s dodging the subject, KKKeelai, you dishonestly misquote me and then you’re too much of a chickenshit to own up to it.

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My point is that you're not a centrist.

You brought up your QAnon cult.

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You brought up QAnon you liar

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I definitely don't align with the psychotic left for sure. And I don't completely align with the right. Especially not with the far right. I go with what I believe. I agree with lots of stuff from the right. But I am also pro choice, up to a point (and I think most on the right are too. They just pretend not to be). And I'm anti-religious. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

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The thing that I dislike about people choosing either side of the political spectrum is that it works like a check list. How can someone overwhelmingly agree with one side? There is so much nuance to arguments. For example, how you stated you are pro-choice to an extent.

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I'm hardcore environmentally conscious. I reduce and reuse all the time. I also believe that keeping all parts of your immediate terrain clean, and free of filth...along with keeping your body sound, and healthy...will galvanize your immune system and you will almost never get sick. Which I almost never do! 😉

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so you accept the science on man made global warming too right? or do you only care about environmental science you agree with?

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No, no one has to accept anything when it comes to science. Science is meant to always be questioned and I will always question science that demands it.

"Accepting Science" is the same as saying "Accepting God's will".

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1. you do not understand science then. you don't have any experience, education or understanding to "question science". which studies are you doing? where have you published before? where did you go to school and which degree?

2. no it isn't the same. one requires evidence. one is nonsense faith.

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YoU Do NoT UnDErStAnD SCiEnCE!! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Accepting anything without doing your own research is faith, my dude lol.

LOL, and needing a piece of paper from an overpriced indoctrination center, to think critically....that's the best one yet!

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“Science on man made global warming”? I’m assuming he’s referring to the fact that most climate scientists agree that humans are contributing to global warming and that is not scientific proof, that’s appealing to popularity which is unscientific and a logical fallacy

I get that kicking Leodicaprio/LogicalLeftist’s ass is fun but if you are actually trying to have a serious discussion you are wasting your time. I totally agree , his scientific process is the same reasoning as accepting God without proof, neither are scientific

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Scientific proof shows climate change is caused by humans which is the reason the majority of global 98%+ climate scientists agree.

Sociopaths oilmen Koch brothers and their Big Oil colleagues poured hundreds of millions of dollars into science denial and propaganda.

Climate change was denied by Big Oil, their chief benefactors the Republican Party, rightwing news and followers until recent climate-related disasters made that impossible.

Big Oil needs denial for profit. What's your excuse?

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Scientific proof shows the Earth is warming (a whole 1.5 degrees since the Civil War) and it can be inferred that humans are contributing due to the level of CO2 they produce. That’s not what he said though, he implored that because climate scientists say we are causing it then that is proof and it isn’t. Evidence proves things not the assertions of scientists.

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More than 99.9% of peer-reviewed scientific papers agree that climate change is mainly caused by humans, according to a new survey of 88,125 climate-related studies.
https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change

The evidence is the 88,125 studies vs. 28 studies (which were printed in minor journals).

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You’re appealing to popularity (logical fallacy). The opinion of the vast majority of climatologists isn’t evidence. So there was a time when the vast amount of the population thought the world was flat, was the world flat back then? Do you know what scientific evidence is? And don’t dare call me a “climate denier” because I made it quite clear global warming is happening and humans are ejecting disproportionate amounts of CO2

Hate to break it to you but science isn’t determined by surveys it’s determined by evidence. You don’t have the first damn clue what you’re talking about

Edit: you’ve also stated that you accept Christian assertions which contradict everything we know about science so you don’t have the moral authority to call anyone a “science denier” seeing how you think the world is 6000 years old, that the worlds population bottomed out to 8 about 4000 years ago because the whole world was flooded (which is impossible btw) and that a man rose from the dead.

I bet you also believe that dinosaurs are in the Bible, that stratigraphy and radiometric dating are inaccurate and that evolution is an atheistic conspiracy

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believe me despite being on the left im no fan of transgenderism. but that also doesn't mean I won't deny the obvious reality that born sex (male vs female) is completely different that gender. which as I showed has massively varied over time.

look if male gender norms were identical today as they were in the past id say you are correct. there is no difference. gender and sex are 100% non mutually exclusive events.

but as ive shown from the huge variance between what was considered manly in the past vs now. its pretty clear that social pressures and constructs plays a massive role.

and that's not a left wing conspiracy. its a fact. Sparta vs now shows it

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you don't. buddy you've never done research. you've looked up things that confirm what you already think. you've never done scientific research and don't know what you are talking about.

yaaa when studying biology and chemistry and physics who needs those "overpriced indoctrination centre degrees". chemistry and nuclear physics, its all left wing conspiracy to indoctrinate.

this is why conservatives get made fun of as science haters.

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You don’t have the first damn clue how science works. You are a science denier

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as usual some great input from our resident conservatives. which can be summed up as "nah uh!".

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Literally barely anyone is denying climate change happens you idiot. What the right is taking issue with is spending trillions of dollars on what is sold as climate change reduction spending or whatever when in reality it will do nothing of the sort, instead it’s just being used to expand the size of the government and fund far left pet projects like training teachers to use the term “non binary birthing person” (or whatever) instead of “mother” or how to teach first graders how to masturbate or that if you’re black you’re automatically a victim and if you’re white you’re automatically an oppressor

As for being science deniers it is the left who thinks you can get a sex change just by saying you are the opposite gender, far more insane not to mention stupid than questioning the extent of climate change

Another logical fallacy for illogical Libtard

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literally the entire right wing on this site is denying man made climate change is happening. every post ive seen about it they say "its just the left wing scientists lying"

As for being science deniers it is the left who thinks you can get a sex change just by saying you are the opposite gender, far more insane not to mention stupid than questioning the extent of climate change


you don't even know the difference between sex and gender. never reply to me again

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Literally every right winger is denying it? Show me a link to every “right winger” saying it’s not happening. Actually now that I think about it, I said it is happening so therefore you’re a liar.

And the left thinks you are a woman because you say you’re a woman which makes the entire concept meaningless. You can call yourself a woman all you want but you’re not a woman, hell I’ll even pretend with you but you still aren’t a woman. You are anti science and just like with climate change you think scientific theory is based on opinion. I hope Santa brings you a science book for Christmas, shit for brains

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have you figured out sex vs gender yet??

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First answer me this question: if I announce that I am a woman and start dressing like a woman am I a woman?

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no

are you a female? no. are you a woman. sure

gender vs sex. its not hard. its almost not "left wing nonsense". there's documented cases of multiple genders/"lady men" going back in history. and hardly in liberal utopias or in a time where anything like gays were accepted.

https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html

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Oh I see, so if I think I’m a woman then I am a woman? What is a woman anyways? If being a woman is now a subjective term then it’s completely meaningless, and those people can pretend they are women all they want, I’ll Even call you by the pronoun you want but you aren’t a woman.

Edit: I also love how you steered the conversation away from climate change, you knew it was a losing argument for you

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learn what a woman is vs a female.

its not a subjective term. but it is a social construct
https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html

you think women are born liking pink?

in ancient Sparta it was "masculine" to literally fucked all the boys while combing each others hard.

now its not seen as manly to do so.


in some countries like Saudi Arabia men kiss on the cheek.

gender. learn the basics

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They are the same thing numb nuts, you’re just making stuff up and if you can just decide that you are a woman then there isn’t a definition of a woman meaning that being a woman is meaningless. Get out of your cult you anti science libtard

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they aren't the same thing. this is basic biology and facts.

you really think girls are born liking pink?

"Sex refers to a set of biological attributes in humans and animals. It is primarily associated with physical and physiological features including chromosomes, gene expression, hormone levels and function, and reproductive/sexual anatomy. Sex is usually categorized as female or male but there is variation in the biological attributes that comprise sex and how those attributes are expressed.

Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people. It influences how people perceive themselves and each other, how they act and interact, and the distribution of power and resources in society. Gender identity is not confined to a binary (girl/woman, boy/man) nor is it static; it exists along a continuum and can change over time. There is considerable diversity in how individuals and groups understand, experience and express gender through the roles they take on, the expectations placed on them, relations with others and the complex ways that gender is institutionalized in society"

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Lol, deciding your gender has nothing to Do with biology, in fact biology states that your sex/gender is dictated by your 23rd chromosome. Get a science book for Christmas, shit for brains

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yes sex is determined by your chromosome.

gender is a social construct. girls aren't born liking pink. or dresses. women at one time didn't wear dresses! its called culture and social pressures.

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And announcing that you are a woman isn’t scientific, announcing you are a woman is just your opinion, since you can’t define a woman being a woman is meaningless. That means anyone can be a woman which you don’t even know the definition of

Also I never said that just liking pink or wearing dresses had anything to do with whether you are a woman or not. You can like/do both and you still aren’t a woman

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a woman is a social construct. if you wish to live by those social constructs we give for a man vs woman than sure. but no a person born male will never be female.

why you keep ignoring my "pink comment" because you know it disproves you.

why do men in Saudi Arabia kiss? why did spartans butt fuck boys and comb each others hair? social constructs idiot gender.

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Oh I see so if I choose to wear pink and a dress but I don’t feel I’m a woman it doesn’t matter I am a woman? Also how do you define these “social constructs”?

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yes if you identify with being a woman and what we call "womanly things" then sure.

ive given you four sources on what gender and social constructs are.

if you can't be bothered to read them that's on you

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What are considered “womenly things” how can you even know what “womenly things” are if anyone who chooses to identify as a woman is a woman. I can identify as a woman and not change anything else about me which now means “womenly things” are meaningless , now “manly things” are also “womanly things”

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it varies culture to culture.

"manly things" in ancient Sparta was going to war, but also buttfucking boys and combing your lovers and friends hair"

now that's completely different.

and women comb each others hair.

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So now if you can’t define “manly” or “womanly” things and by your own definition it varies from culture to culture then you have no basis to call a biological man a woman

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I just did... they would be the social constructs that are associated with each gender which have massively changed over time.

ive explained this 5 times now at least.

Mainly things in sparta

-having sex with boys
-going to war
-wearing red
-combing your bros hair
-only visiting your wife to procreate
-cowardlyprojectiles like arrows seen as

manly things in modern American society

-driving a truck
-the color blue
-at most giving your buddy a hug, not buttufcking them
-wearing jeans
-projectiles (ie guns) no longer seen as a cowards weapon

yes a biological man is one with the sex of male. a female is born female.

sex vs gender. how are you not getting this.

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You just said that “manly” and “womanly” things are dictated by society which makes the definition of a woman subjective and not scientific . That means you are pretending. Geez you are stupid and you don’t have the first clue how science works. If you can’t determine how many womanly things I must exhibit to be a woman then a woman has no definition

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Also google definition of woman: “an adult female human being”, you’re just making stuff up

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sex vs gender

biological vs social construct. this shit is soo simple

"Sex refers to a set of biological attributes in humans and animals. It is primarily associated with physical and physiological features including chromosomes, gene expression, hormone levels and function, and reproductive/sexual anatomy. Sex is usually categorized as female or male but there is variation in the biological attributes that comprise sex and how those attributes are expressed.

Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people. It influences how people perceive themselves and each other, how they act and interact, and the distribution of power and resources in society. Gender identity is not confined to a binary (girl/woman, boy/man) nor is it static; it exists along a continuum and can change over time. There is considerable diversity in how individuals and groups understand, experience and express gender through the roles they take on, the expectations placed on them, relations with others and the complex ways that gender is institutionalized in society
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You just said that a woman and being female are different , they aren’t and I just proved they aren’t. You’re just making up your own definitions. A woman is an adult female human being

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you didn't prove any such thing. you said "nah uh" and used a "google definition".

you do know google definitions aren't objective?

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So now that you and google are at odds why should I believe you? Science and google say you are wrong

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you presented no such science. you gave a laymen definition from google.

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https://www.coe.int/en/web/gender-matters/sex-and-gender

he World Health Organisation summarises the difference between sex and gender in the following way:
Sex refers to “the different biological and physiological characteristics of males and females, such as reproductive organs, chromosomes, hormones, etc.”
Gender refers to "the socially constructed characteristics of women and men – such as norms, roles and relationships of and between groups of women and men. It varies from society to society and can be changed. The concept of gender includes five important elements: relational, hierarchical, historical, contextual and institutional. While most people are born either male or female, they are taught appropriate norms and behaviours – including how they should interact with others of the same or opposite sex within households, communities and work places. When individuals or groups do not “fit” established gender norms they often face stigma, discriminatory practices or social exclusion – all of which adversely affect health


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction

https://psychcentral.com/health/sex-vs-gender#what-is-sex

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You are missing the point dumbass, announcing that you have decided that you are a woman isn’t scientific , that’s just you deciding you want to pretend to be a woman, you however said it was scientific therefore you are anti science

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its not pretending to be a woman. its a social construct. hence not anti science.

my sources all say you are wrong :s

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It is pretending, you aren’t a woman just because you say so and it has nothing to Do with science. The type of clothes you choose to wear isn’t scientific. Your sex chromosomes are. Science has nothing to do with “social constructs” it has to do with the scientific method and repeated testing and confirmation.

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a woman is a social construct. sex is not.

should I repeat these facts 15 more times till you get it?

why was it "manly" for spartan men to butt fuck boys and comb each others hair?

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Define a woman and these “social constructs” what parameters do I have to meet to be considered a woman?

As for Spartans butt fucking boys , I couldn’t tell you but that doesn’t mean they are women

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ive given you 3 or four sources. the fact you are too lazy to read them isn't my fault

no what it DOES mean is that what we say "men" and "women" are/do, varies massively. its not set in stone, its not decided at birth.

the fact the most badass "manly men" in Sparta were butt fucking hair combers. who wore a cape. where now a man stereotypically drives a truck and knows carpentry.

just shows how much gender social constructs vary and they are not a clear thing.

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Yet you can’t even define or give examples of these “social constructs” or “womanly things” which now means your premise is 100% subjective.you seriously need some kind of remedial biology course

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I did. it's literally right there.... you either blind or dumb or both.

manly spartan men went to war, butt fucked boys and combed each others hair. wore red. wore thongs. that was gender norms

now manly men drive trucks, know trades, like blue, wear jeans etc.

both these groups were biological men. but had very different gender norms

I don't even need Sparta as an example but its an extreme one so it proves the point more clearly.

look at modern American men vs Saudi men. there are some clear different gender norms

-in saudi men kiss on the cheek
-in saudi a man beats his wife and keeps her in line.

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Yet I never said those Spartans were women, if your definition is based on what society feels then it isn’t scientific you dumbass. You can’t even define what constitutes manly or womanly things you just said it varies from culture to culture which means it’s subjective. And your preoccupation with Spartans butt fucking boys is disturbing

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where did I say they were women? and kind of "what society feels". more the social norms a society naturally creates as it evolves.

yes its subjective. gender isn't really a hard science like sex. It's human society. it's like saying liberalism or conservatives is a hard science. its social constructs.

again the mostly manly things men did in Sparta was what we would consider feminine or weird.

and if we talked to a spartan they say "what?!? you arent a man you don't comb your bros hair and buttfuck them"

I feel like you know I have a point. but you won't admit it

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You don’t have a point, you are pretending that there are parameters around what constitutes a woman yet you have no idea what those parameters are. I’ll ask again, if I show a lot of “womanly things” (which you can’t define but whatever) but I say I’m a man am I a man or a woman?

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I showed you manly things. if you want I can lookup historical "womanly" things and how they contrast with social norms we have today?

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Historical womanly things are a non sequitur, I never said social norms didn’t change, a while ago it wasn’t socially acceptable for a man to dress like a woman, now it apparently is. That doesn’t mean you are a woman. The discussion was whether you are a woman or not (actually it was climate change but you gave up on that a long time ago) not whether society would shun you for dressing up as a woman. Stay on topic and quit the non sequiturs dumbass.

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that's cute you think im reading this ;*

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I’ll refer you to my previous comment: learn how to read you retarded liberal. My post was 2 paragraphs maximum, that’s not a lot at all.

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yes gender is subjective or at least fluid. it varies massively. it has throughout history as my Sparta example shows. gender was objective we would consider the same things "manly" now as they did then! in fact many of the things they considered the most manly we would say is feminine or not manly.

am I not correct in that?

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Ok so if it’s subjective and you can’t define what constitutes “womanly things” then there is no definition of a woman, and I am just as much a woman as a man who says he’s a woman and walks around in dresses

Just saying is a “social construct” isn’t a definition dumbass.

Also thanks for conceding that this isn’t scientific. You now have no business calling anyone a “science denier”

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who says you can't define subjective things? can you show me a tome where womanly things are written in stone?

answer this! why is it manly things from ancient Sparta differ and are even contrary to what we say are manly today?

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I never said “womanly things” were ever written in stone, however your definition of a woman is dependent upon a certain Amount of womanly things and you can’t define or quantify either

I’ll ask again:
- what constitutes a manly or womanly thing?
- how many womanly things does a man have to show to be a woman?
- if I show womanly things but say I’m a man am I a man or a woman?

As for your Sparta question, morality is subjective , always has been, it also has nothing to do with this discussion. If you can’t define what a woman is then you aren’t justified in calling yourself one. In the case of Sparta, we have defined what immoral is and we have reasons for labeling child rape immoral, psychologists can attest to how it can emotionally damage the child. Still subjective but we can at least define immoral and back it up with research.

And to relate this to your poorly thought out analogy, I cannot just declare something is immoral and that makes it immoral, I may think it’s immoral but it isn’t immoral just because I say it is. Just like a man isn’t a woman just because he says he is, he may think he’s a woman and if he wants to pretend go right ahead but that doesn’t make you a woman just like me declaring abortion is immoral makes it immoral.

You’re just making stuff up kid

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yes may definition of what is "womanly" is contingent on social pressures and constructs. which vary culture to culture, time and place.

that's exactly what the spartan example shows. how "manliness" also varied in what it was epitomized by based off the culture.

what's that African culture that weaves stinger ants into a basket and the boy has to go through a ceremony and endure it to become a "man". are you not a man unless you endure this ceremony? that would be called a social construct and how they mark genders.

also in sparta it was teen boys. but do go on you are a fountain of information.

im not talking about morality. you are now trying to change the subject because you don't know anything.e

so for the 15th time you constantly try and conflate sex and gender.


ill simplify it since you are as sharp as a spoon


Sex: all those spartan men were biologically male

Gender: what defined social roles was defined by the culture. women stayed home. men went to war, buttfucked boys and combed each others hair. that was the epitome of "manliness". not "maleness", although they did overlap. they were male whether or not the met these standards (being born male). but what society deemed "manly" they could meet or not

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For the 40th time what constitutes “manly” or “womanly”, so far you can’t define it, if you can’t define it then you can’t define a woman because you said that if someone exhibits “womanly” qualities then they are a woman, that means that there are no parameters as to what defines a woman meaning calling yourself a woman is meaningless because anyone can call themselves a woman. There are parameters around what constitutes an atheist, someone who doesn’t accept theistic claims. If you call yourself an atheist but at the same time you accept that God created Earth then you aren’t an atheist.

You keep saying it’s a “social construct” and then continue to ramble on and on about past social constructs and how they have changed yet you still can’t define the current social construct that determines that people with a Y-chromosome can be women. What define a person with a Y chromosome who is a woman? You continue to dodge that question. Just saying it’s up to society isn’t an answer, if it’s just left to the opinion of society then it’s subjective and it doesn’t mean anything. It basically means you are just making up the rules as you go.

How many “womanly” qualities do I have to show to be a woman? If I show enough of them but I say I’m male what am I? I noticed you keep dodging those questions. If you can’t answer them then you don’t have a definition of a woman. There is no difference between sex and gender , you just invented a difference because you want a fake social Justice battle to fight. And talk about not staying on topic, the topic was climate change and you’re now talking about Spartans butt fucking boys

Geez I feel like I’m talking to my hand

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I can define it generally. which would be "having qualities traditionally associated with a man" but I can't specifically in every case because it varies so much culture to culture, time period to time period! you finally conceded great! what is "manly" has varied so much as my Sparta example demonstrates! finally you are learning! are you going to war? do you comb your bros hair and buttfuck teens? well you aren't Manly (gender) according to spartans. but you are still a male (sex)

what is a female or male is clear and based off biology. what is manly or feminine varies wildly and is a social construct. as I have demonstrated 15 times.

your atheist comparison was sooo incredibly stupid. one is a belief held by an individual, or lack of belief. one is a social construct.

"yet you still can’t define the current social construct that determines that people with a Y-chromosome can be women. What define a person with a Y chromosome who is a woman? You continue to dodge that question. Just saying it’s up to society isn’t an answer, if it’s just left to the opinion of society then it’s subjective and it doesn’t mean anything. It basically means you are just making up the rules as you go. "

already said this about 5 times. a male is someone with and X Y chromosome and a female two X's. they are also born with their sexes genitalia. you are trying to act like I never said sex is a clear objective biological thing? meanwhile gender is different.


Nope not making up rules! you literally admitted there was massive gender differences between spartan men and modern western men. you defeated your own argument. hah im the only one here who answered questions while you keep repeating "nah uh"

GENDER IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT. SEX IS A BIOLOGICAL FUNCTION.

I must apologize if facts upset you but this is true
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yes or no. what Sparta considered "manly" traits and social norms varied massively than what a modern Americans concept of what is "manly" is? yes or no?

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Sit still numb nuts I am going to edit this comment

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ill just summarize your reply. it'll basically be "nah uh". no need to write a paragraph of nonsense denying reality.

also I got a life to live so I won't be reading or replying to it at all :). I've intellectually unmanned you enough and you just keep denying objective facts. enjoy your day sweetie. don't get in too much of a rage because facts trigger you!

look into sex vs gender! you won't sound like an uneducated knuckle dragger in our next exchange.

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I see you’re tapping out again. I accept your concession you coward and you didn’t read a damn thing I said. You don’t have the first clue what you’re talking about and you are a science denier. You can’t even define what a woman is which shoots your entire poorly thought out premise in the face. Go get an education you loser and quit fighting nonsense to give your life meaning

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enjoy your day sweetie! I hope you find purpose other than getting owned here

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I don’t need this site to find meaning in my life, destroying you is just a hobby. I hope you find meaning in your life in ways other than fighting fake social Justice battles

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all I read was "battles". adorable :*

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Then learn how to read you retarded liberal

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"Qualities generally associated with a man" isn't a definition, you can't even define what constitutes a "quality generally associated with a man". If your answer is "it varies from culture to culture" then it is subjective and therefore if it's subjective then you have no justification in calling a biological man a "woman". I sometimes grow my hair out, that to many is a "quality associated with a woman", so therefore some could consider me a woman while other's can't. You're just making stuff up, dingleberry.

"I can't specifically because it varies so much from culture to culture"

Then that means you can't define a woman, meaning calling someone a woman is pointless. There are parameters around what constitutes a woman, specifically 2 X chromosomes. You can call a banana an apple all you want but that doesn't make it an apple. So if I feel like I'm 21, can I identify as a 21 year old and expect society to treat me as a 21 year old? I mean I'm in my 40's but if I act like an immature 21 year old does that make me 21?

Of course what is "manly" and "womanly" has varied so much, therefore there is nothing to define what is "manly" or "womanly" meaning you cannot define someone's sex or gender based on what you think is "manly" or "womanly". A man can act like a woman, but he's still a man, a woman can act like a man but she's still a woman.

My atheist comparison was legitimate, there are clear standards as to what defines an atheist, you can't just call yourself an atheist if you accept that God created the Earth. Your man vs. woman argument does not have clear standards as the defintion of an atheist does.

You were the one who said it was up to society, I'm just quoting you you fucking idiot.

I "admitted there was a massive gender difference between spartan men and modern men"?

I did no such thing, both of them are men, they just behaved differently, you are the one who thinks that if you change your behavior you change your gender, that's your argument

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not mine, you dumbass.

You keep repeating gender is a "social construct" like some kind of broken record, and that logic is circular and contradictory. If it's a social construct and you can't define the parameters of what is and what isn't a woman then there is no definition of a woman, if there is no definition of a woman then calling yourself a woman doesn't make you a woman because there isn't a definition. More logical fallacies from the illogical libtard.

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my definition was literally from the Oxford dictionary. but it makes no sense and is wrong...

like I said in my reply im done. thanks for the easy debate.. everyone now gets to see you owned sweetie

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Your definition amounts to “anyone who identifies as a woman” so if a woman is someone who identifies as a woman then you still haven’t answer what defines a woman. A woman being someone who says they are a woman is circular and self contradictory.

Me: What's a woman
You: Someone who says they are a woman
Me: So part of your "definition" is the word woman, what is that?
You: Someone who says they are a woman

Round and round we go in circles.

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good one sweetie! didn't read it. I wish you a blessed day, maybe look into how to form arguments, after you look into help for your rage!

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Maybe one day you’ll figure out how to not engage in circular arguments and logical fallacies. Get educated you loser and grow a pair .

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all I got was "loser". how cute you are still raging and following me around :*

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Glad you are finally rediscovering yourself

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"I definitely don't align with the psychotic left"

You're not a centrist.

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To be fair, the Left is "left" of center. Being centrist doesn't mean accepting leftist views; the same, also regarding the Right.

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There are no centrist views.

A centrist accepts some views from both the moderate Left and Right.

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im on the left and I call the right retarded! does that make me a centrist?

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No because you're on the left.

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but but my man. I thought maybe calling people retard would cancel out my leftism and mean im centre?

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Well, no because you admitted you're left. It's even in your name.

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A centrist should take a subject like border security or the affects of no cash bail and break it down.

What are the pros and cons? and then make a rational and common sense decision.

Now the problem with Democrat policy like open borders, no cash bail , college loan forgiveness, or allowing boys to compete against girls in sports.

The cons always out weight the pros, there is little logic or common sense. Definitely no though on future affects.
So they claim racism.

Democrats hate centrist because it would be a reality check...
These subjects are not even debated anymore. They are pushed on you no matter what

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You're not a centrist. You're right-wing and a Trumpite.

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Take a topic like no cash bail and lay out the pros and cons like an adult.

Pros

People with no money will have the ability to get out on bail.

Cons

People being released within 24hrs does not make the criminal think about what they done, it actually makes them feel unpunished for their crime.

Recidivism is high, repeat offenders are high. We are seeing more crime from the same people because of no cash bail.

No cash bail keep criminals out of jail and on the streets making the public less safe

Since no cash bail has been put into affect crime has risen.

So logically one should come.to.the conclusion that no cash bail is a failure.

But let's here your side and logically come up with a answer. Putting the general public in jeopardy because a few people cant afford their bail when arrested just seems stupid.

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You're not a centrist. You're only repeating Fox talking points.

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You're not a centrist. You're right-wing and a Trumpite.

Well he didnt actually claim that he was a centrist in that post


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A centrist should take a subject like border security or the affects of no cash bail and break it down.
What are the pros and cons? and then make a rational and common sense decision.
Now the problem with Democrat policy like open borders,


jeez , how many times
OPEN BORDERS IS NOT DEMOCRAT POLICY , its nobodys policy! in any country anywhere ever by any party .

You talk about "common sense" and "breaking it down" ....then come out with utter shit like that!
Democrats might have a slightly different policy - maybe not waterboard offenders or whatever ,
but sure as shit isnt "open border"

all you are doing posting far right propaganda like that is confirming that you will never be able to have a reasonable even handed debate.

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The right ask for a physical wall, remain in Mexico and no more catch and release.

Democrats weaken border security, remove remain in Mexico which was cheap and effective.

Look at he statistics.
Under Democrats presently the numbers show open borders.
Look at how many caught and not caught on the terror watch list.
Terrorist are literally pouring in.
They are coming to plan bad things.

You are playing with fire supporting these Democrat border numbers.

And the country during the night of voted for more of a same.

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Fox triggered your xenophobia.

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I am waiting for you to debate like an adult with logical thinking.

What are the pros to no cash bail as it seems the cons outweigh them

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Catch and release

Sholom Rubashkin

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Centrist....a radical one. But any leftist will see anything 1mm to the right of Mao, a "nazi".

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Absolutely. It's funny, when I tell someone I'm neither left or right, right-wingers say, "fair enough", but left wingers sarcastically say, "oh, so you don't like equality and affordability." They pretty much think I'm a right-winger.

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Yet you’ll constantly hear left wingers identify themselves as “moderates” and “centrists” and “registered independents”. Then you ask them who the last Republican they voted for was and its silence. IE the Bill Maher “libertarians” that are not “independent” nor libertarian. Just something they say to say to sound “open minded”.

I’m not afraid to tell people I’m Republican. It’s pretty easy when you consider how much the Democrat media/party and their lemmings hate the United States, it’s constitution, it’s flag, it’s traditions. They can go F themselves. Voting for any D empowers all D’s and so they should never get any pro Americans support.

There is not a policy on the Democrat party platform that doesn’t exist to increase party power.

This doesn’t mean the Republican Party is perfect, especially the Republican establishment. They’re just a lot better than the hate filled, divisive Democrat party.

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This is all true. And I would consider voting republican if they ran someone remotely intellectual. I know there are intellectual conservatives, so why don't they run for office?

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"oh, so you don't like equality and affordability."


Lefties hate these things too lol.

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You're not a centrist.

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literally everyone here will deny being an extremist of one side or the other and claim to be a centrist.
Just look at the well known, very outspoken, names of both sides in the replies

For the record , i too , claim to be a centrist.

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There is one person I question the validity of their answer.

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I agree with you. Plenty of right-wing Trumpite extremists claiming to be centrists.

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You don't have to pick a side..if you disagree with anything the left says they label you Far Right.

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Absolutely. They have this "you're either for us or against us" mentality. I completely disagree with the right, but at least they don't care that I'm a centrist.

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Just see Elon Musk.

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It's like I spent my early years as a little tree hugger we must save the environment sucker then as a teenager my only mission in life was to get high and own every single Master P and No Limit Records album ever made, I haven't been to church in my adult life. I don't give a wet fart about abortion or gay marriage, do whatever you want just leave the kids out of it but right there saying "Just leave the kids out of it" makes me a Far Right Nazi that grew up listening to audio tapes of Mein Kempf when in reality it's the left that almost seemingly going exactly with the Nazi Playbook.

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I'm a centrist, but I've come to despise the left over the last ten years. The right has always been the same thing. The left changes day by day and it's never a good change (it's certainly not "progress").

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I'm exactly like you. I used to tolerate left-wingers, but I've begun to notice how they really are post 2010. Now I dislike them equally as much as right-wingers.

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You're not a centrist. You're a right-wing Trumpite extremist.

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