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To rational liberals / quietly former liberals / rational people in general


This is an anonymous site, so you can be honest here.

I want to know:

What compels you to keep quiet about the lunacy happening on the left? Are you afraid? What do you think would happen if EVERYONE who has been afraid to speak up decided to do so?

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Which lunacy?

90% of the democrats policies are centrist policies in the rest of the West their own right wing parties wouldn't touch (affordable education and healthcare). Not only that, these countries all rank in the top 10 best countries to live in. While america rarely makes that list.

But yes instead I should support the party that thinks billionaire dollar corporations and people with 100+ billion in wealth are the real victims in society and any tax raise is "socialism". and brought us into an illegal war and spent 7 trillion on it while lecturing me the dems spending is out of control.

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Nobody said anything about supporting the "other" party.

Your dishonest attempt to shift the focus of the conversation is precisely why the average working person doesn't trust the left.

I'll grant you the last word, though you should know I've already dismissed you as a troll.

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well seen as I reside in a country with a two party system I have option A or option B to choose from. and if I don't support option A then I am either indirectly supporting Option B or directly doing so by voting for them.

You seem unreasonably angry that someone dares have a different opinion than your own and claim troll to escape intellectual debate.

I am a troll by stating what actually happened and is reality?

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Answer his question--what lunacy? If you can't answer that, where is the lunacy then?

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Incorrect. The party of the working people always catered to the left due to such policies. It's only recently since Trump did the working people started shifting right.

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After massive corporate media buyouts and propaganda manipulation - of which you blithering Right-wing trolls play a large part.

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If the working class is shifting right it shows you taxes are starting to outweigh the benefits.

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There's zero chance this will produce a fruitful discussion given your starting point but I am genuinely intrigued; what lunacy are you referring to? Say what you like about Biden but he's about the most middle-of-the-road politician you could possible imagine. Accusing him of lunacy is like calling brown bread an exotic foodstuff.

A friend of mine has just come back from Washington where he was staying with some inlaws. They're all apparently very nice people but all rabid republicans. After the midterm results they told my friend "well, at least the democrats won't have an excuse to riot. They always riot when they don't get the election result they want". Can you imagine, a Trump supporter said that unironically. That's what this question reminds me of.

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Again, the attempt to shift the focus to the republicans avoids the issue. If you don't know what lunacy I refer to, you're either a liar or a fundamental part of the problem.

I'll let you have a final word as well, though I find you inherently untrustworthy and will dismiss whatever you say as propaganda.

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I don't even know what this conversation is about so I'd have trouble inserting propaganda into it. Incredibly paranoid sounding reply...

You can tell me what you are talking about if you like. I'm not American if that helps. If you don't want to, that'll be fine too.

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Exactly.

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Men can get pregnant. There are 137 genders. WW3 is good. Nuke Russia. Trannys in the classroom is good. Lock everyone up and force them to take an untested “vaccine”. “Biden is a moderate”.

Ok now go educate yourself on the reality of the communist Democrat party and take your gaslighting elsewhere.

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I don't keep quiet. I live in a super-blue area, and I'm very vocal about Clown World. I've converted quite a bit of people in the process lol.

Oh, and I consider myself politically homeless. Former Classic Liberal. Registered Independent.

My Presidential Election history is:

1996: Clinton - That Sax Tho!
2000: Nadar - Gore/Bush was Giant Douche/Turd Sandwhich
2004: Sat out - Fuck Bush and Carrey
2008: O'Bama - Oops!
2012: Sat out - Fool me twice, Shame on me...Fuck Mitt Romney
2016: Trump - MAGA!
2020: Trump - UGH, God no, Not Joe Biden

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Interesting. What do you say to get the believers to reconsider?

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I just keep asking them to explain their positions, until their brain short circuits from the cognitive dissonance.

Once the spell starts to be broken I start small...usually with media lies and omissions.

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There is no one you've ever changed the mind of, for sure.

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The left might have some issues, but the right wing in this country makes them seem measured and reasonable by comparison.

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The right are weird, for sure. But you'd have to be willfully stupid to not think the left has been nothing but destructive to the United States and the West in general. They're awful, psychotic, and they hide behind platitudes and straw men to justify their horrific actions.

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Why can't you be specific? Name one, just one Democratic action you think is harmful to the nation and "the West in general?" Then we can have a rational conversation.

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As I thought you're just a troll. Who do you work for?

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they always flee when you ask for specifics. they love making big, vague sweeping comments, but when asked for details. they all of a sudden run, or "don't have time to educate a socialist like you!"

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He doesn't need to be specific because it's fucking obvious. America is on the decline and the liberals "woke" movement is spearheading it.

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can you be specific. thanx sweetie

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Lol.

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You are willfully stupid not to think the Right has been anything but destructive to the United States and the West in general.

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The left want people to believe men can get pregnant.

End of discussion. The left if mentally ill.

Note: “classical liberals” have left the democrat party.

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lol you really referencing clowns like Tim pool and Dave reuben?

yess right wing classical liberals who want libertarian laissez faire economics are republicans who want even less limits on corporations and the rich

BIG SUPRISE. yes what america needs is less regulation and more benefits to the rich. that's been the problem all along!

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What compels you to keep quiet about the lunacy happening on the left?

Well the vast majority of it is made up fairy stories by far right media outlets , so need to worry really

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What exactly are these "fairy tales" "made up" "by 'far right' media outlets"?

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well theres the one about the left wanting to abolish the police ,
and the one about the left wanting to turn your kids gay,
and the one about the left wanting to "open the borders"


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WHAT I was looking forward to the gay anarchical open border state

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Thats what I thought "Priscilla Queen of the Desert" was going to be, then I found out it wasn't a Mad Max sequel after all!

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You're a liar.

But you know that.

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We have had an open border for the past 2 years. Have you not seen the humanitarian crisis on the border? Or does your left wing news not report on that?

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if there was " open border " there could not be a "humanitarian crisis on the border"

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But there is a humanitarian crisis on the border. Do democrats not care about immigrants? Where is AOC? Where is Nancy?

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They have aboriginal people in their electorates.

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There are a many times more Liberals willing to criticize and disagree with other Liberals than there are so-called Conservatives willing to ever take a stand against other so-called Conservatives. The so-called Conservatives at the top of the hierarchy just laugh at the idiots below them, and even make comments like "we love the undereducated" or "we love the uninformed".

This is the ugliness and unAmerican-ness of so-called Conservatives, that you use this kind of communication as a presence to being innocent to cover up bullying and name-calling.

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You are a fucking lunatic. You are so compelled to LIE and SLANDER every fucking time your ugly head rears here, it's become a disease, a cancer on Movie Chat. Happy now? You're the source of hate and ugliness. Bra-fucking-vo !

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Shut your ass. That's all you leftists do.

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