In the US, tipping was originally considered bourgeois and racist. It was a way for racist restaurant owners to hire freed slaves, play them nothing, and force them to bend over backwards for customers to get any sort of a living wage.
It wasn't until employers began giving their tip-based employees a base wage, that tipping became considered not a bad thing...and even became a means of motivation for hard work in other industries. (Think "Commission")
I lived on tips for a couple of years. The Pizza Shop my buddy owned was very good to me. He paid me enough in a base rate to cover my living expenses at the time...and the rest was up to me in tips with my navigational prowess to get food to customer's homes in a timely fashion.
Let's just say I was really good at it and brought home around $7-800 a week in cash in tips alone. I worked hard for that money. I risked my driving record, my car's health, my safety...all that shit so people could be lazy and still have a hot meal. That's the only link to communism I can come up with....it's not a customer tax, its a lazy tax. You want someone else to provide you a basic necessity like food? Pay up, buddy.
You're just being a cheap bastard man lol. Here's the kicker: You're doing it backwards. If you want to be a stingy no-tipper, then you cannot frequent the same place like you do. They will know your face, and give you shit service because they know you deserve it. That's what the manager was telling you, they know who you are and how often you go there. Do you think I didn't know and remember who my good customers were, and who my bad customer were? You're goddamned right I did. Sit-down places are no different.
On busy nights when my good and shitty customers were competing for deliveries, who do you think got their food first? 🤣🤣
Stop being a Scrooge and tip your fuckin' server, bob!
Merry Christmas.
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joej2923 (3093)
3 years ago
I think that racist restaurant owner story is from the critical race theory textbooks. The US didn't have labor laws until the 1930's so everybody was getting screwed out of a decent wage. It was (and is) a horrible struggle for living wages across the board without regard to race. There were strikes, riots, etc. until people could get a living wage. Now, the capitalists have sent the jobs overseas to slave labor countries so it's just a never-ending struggle to make a buck.
I always tried to tip and be nice to my servers so they wouldn't spit in my food.
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B1cKsurN (17588)
3 years ago
It may be in CRAP text books, but to think it never happened is absurd. Another is "No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service". That was originally to keep poor black people out of shops, but affected "everyone".
That stuff really wasn't the point of my post, however. Regardless of origin, tipping is its own culture in any current-day zeitgeist, and in ours....It's mostly a means to show gratitude for good service.
If you're a cheap bastard, stay home and eat hot pockets.
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joej2923 (3093)
3 years ago
There are generous/cheap people of all social classes. Some of the cheapest people I've encountered have been really RICH. My overall point is that many (most?) owners can be cheap when it comes to paying employees. Race isn't always a factor but some people want to make everything about race. Even today, there are temporary work visas in the US that allow employers to bring in foreigners so they don't have pay a living/competitive wage to US citizens.
Similarly, I don't see the no shoes, no shirt, so service signs as racial discrimination but I would consider them class discrimination. Various night spots want to keep the riff-raff out and that usually means poor people who won't spend the bucks. I'm a white male who has been asked to leave a few night spots / restaurants after not spending any money and even turned away for not meeting the dress code. The Brits even had an official class system that wasn't based on race and the Hindus had a caste system that also was not based on race.
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Keelai (35270)
3 years ago
Your denial of racism is extreme. Slavery, Jim Crow and peonage prove that whites and blacks were never treated equally in the U.S..
Rich people didn't want blacks and whites to unite against them which was the case in early American history. The rich began to treat the white underclass
better than blacks to keep them divided. The old divide and conquer strategy worked and is still practiced today.
The racist history of tipping in the U.S. is correct. It was a way to avoid paying wages to newly freed blacks.
https://time.com/5404475/history-tipping-american-restaurants-civil-war/
Another way to extend slavery was to arrest newly freed blacks on trumped up charges and make them work free as prisoners. This was known as peonage. Carefully read the 13th ammendment which allows this backdoor to slavery against newly freed blacks.
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
You should also educate yourself about the Black Codes.
Never embrace ignorance!
BTW, you're confusing CRT and American history. Learn history.
CRT is an advanced study taught in law schools.
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joej2923 (3093)
3 years ago
Tipping exists everywhere around the world and it has nothing to do with racism. The CRT wackos are always trying to link every inequity to racism. There was and is racism in the US. The civil rights of the sixties provide citizens with protections from and remedies for various types of discrimination. Peonage was also used against whites and many whites were indentured servants. There were also black slaveholders so slavery was
primarily a means to find cheap labor. People who own businesses often look for cheap labor and they'll screw anyone over if they can.
I am not denying the existence of racism. I'm saying that tipping and dress codes do not have a linkage to racism. Your rich divide and conquer theory is pure nonsense. The rich also outsourced all those jobs to foreign countries so they really only care about making money. The rich want to make more money and many (not all) will screw over ANYONE to make a buck.
Critical race theory is total BS that is designed to vilify whites and make a case for reparations. Critical legal theory has been used to justify softer sentences for criminals. The big cities are shitholes because criminals are not being locked up. A lot of these city officials think they are saving money by not locking up criminals but letting criminals run free does long-term damage to those communities.
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Keelai (35270)
3 years ago
I see you're choosing to remain ignorant in order to maintain your racist views and to stereotype.
Remain in your self-imposed bubble if that allows you to feel safe.
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