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I think it was more a case that Moss was actively being hunted not only by Chigurh (and formerly Wells) but also by the Mexican cartel. They obtained his location by the one Mexican politely bantering with Moss' mother in law. Moss was on guard by the pool but instead of Chigurh showing up it was numerous well-armed Mexicans that came to the hotel.
I do concur that Chigurh's hunting skills were other-worldly. He was just plain good at what he did.
That is all correct, GetWoke. It was the definitive end of the series. Note how Don Johnson wore his U of Kansas Jayhawks t-shirt in the final scene. He was from Kansas and I believe went to school there.
Yup, you just nailed it----the pacing and suspense was incredible for its time when it came out. Throw in the very eerie music created by Carpenter and it was truly a masterpiece of the genre. I still recall being very frightened and on the edge of my seat the first time I saw it years ago.
Interestingly all three of the teen guys Wally, Eddie and Lumpy did hitches in the service as did Beaver a little later. Was Tony Dow a photographer in the service? I did not know that. But yeah, aside from your initial boot camp and additional training and one weekend per month and two weeks each summer the guard would not eat that much of your time to be honest. But the beginning training could be a major disruption to a career already in progress.
We saw that with other famous young men. Elvis. Gary Lewis. The guy who played Eugene as one of the original band of Barkley brothers on Big Valley. Dean Torrence of Jan and Dean missed out on some early success as he had to do military service and things got recorded as Jan and Arnie. Rocky B. from the Steelers comes to mind.
It was fairly common as a sign of those times. The Cold War and Vietnam pulled many many men into compulsory military duty.
Yes, absolutely. Shadow in the Dark was actually a Halloween episode that aired on October 31, 1986. It was very much non-mainstream Miami Vice to be honest. It was a fun diversion though. Actually I don't believe the crazy nut actually had gotten around to killing anyone when he got his spree ended. But he was certainly going to do it very soon as he escalated things each time out. I think it may have been the only ep of MV where someone didn't get killed IIRC.
Maybe if I did have to pick one ep to showcase what you were looking for----The Hit List from season one. It had a tension and drama that was tough to beat and it did offer up a lot in terms of showing the glitz and brutality of the show. The hit man was chilling in the way he looked so normal and so casually fit in wherever he went without arousing suspicions of anyone. He just looked like your friend's unassuming dad from down the street.
I always marveled at the opening scene of Lombard with the two mobsters sitting smiling in the ice cream parlor while the song lollipop played. They looked and seemed like such nice guys until you realize that they are plotting a murder while there. It was the kind of thing that just seemed to set MV apart from all other shows past or present. It had something that would be hard if not impossible to duplicate. No doubt a part of Mann's genius.
Great question here! And a hard one to answer. I think different episodes really did well to capture certain things. For example:
Shadow In The Dark- Spooky and Creepy feeling. (Halloween ep)
Out Where The Buses Run- Shocking and a theatre of the absurd for sure.
The Home Invaders- A sense of frantic and desperation.
Lombard- Honor Among Thieves.
The Hit List- Fear and doom.
Glades- A sense of down home and backwoods Florida life.
The Milk Run- Irony and how badly things can end.
Viking Bikers From Hell- Brute power and a nearly unstoppable force.
El Viejo- Appreciation for the past and vendetta.
Trust Fund Pirates- Runaway privilege.
Definitely Miami- People are seldom who you think they are. Or I guess sometimes they are.
Evan- Guilt.
I guess so many of them conveyed a certain theme or style. The show was brilliantly done. Sorry, I can't pick one or at least not without some very serious thought. Did you have one ep in mind that did this?
I agree all the way here! Fantastic film that was very smartly written with some great acting and locales. Supporting players were awesome!
I do have to agree about the scuba tank atom bomb explosion thing. LOL. It was kind of silly to be honest.
I agree. Especially at that time period depicted. Martial law indeed and National Guard troops with orders to kill. They shot looters back then and would do the same for what Cyrus proposed.
Well said! It would have been the smash and grab times a million.
But no doubt Cyrus and his minions would have been rubbed out by the mob rather quickly once they started to squeeze mafia businesses and interests.
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, sucked being them at that time! They were going to face the music. My guess is that Luther and his douchebag right hand man were as good as dead. The others (the Rouges?) may have had a chance to talk their way out of it with just a good beating since most of them were not present at the meet where Cyrus got shot by Luther. They probably got a royal beat down and were forced to leave their colors on the beach with the understanding that their gang would be no more ever again.
One heck of a film! I wonder what the fallout for the other various gangs would be with them failing so miserably against the Warriors? Probably no action was taken against them just a lack of street status and respect. But in gang circles that stuff would mean quite a bit.
Mike---most people forget about the Australians who fought in Vietnam. This was a good reminder of that.
That's a very good post, Jek!
Yeah, that really echoes what I decided I would do to be honest. As you say Barnes was a hot mess and had completely lost it. The village debacle, the fragging of Elias, the attempted murder of Taylor all are very serious things. Barnes had lost any and all of his humanity to say the very least.
While by the book what Taylor did was wrong, I would be willing to sweep the incident under the rug as well. I would mandate him to sign a non-disclosure pact and not to ever speak about what he had done. I would give him his separation from the US Army with an honorable discharge and whatever medals he had accumulated. Being wounded twice he was likely to be discharged anyways.
I would be willing to see his side of it although it was a major breech of military decorum. As for Barnes I guess I would allow him to have his full benefits of his service as well. He was gone and the matter was over and done with.
Shooting star. Depends on what you read the shooting star actually happened or it did not. Likely it was not real as number one such a thing would likely not show up on film so splendidly and two many of the night scenes were actaully shot in daytime and just made to look like nighttime (Chrissy's shark attack was filmed in daylight).
Spielberg said there was no real significance to the shooting stars. Artistic license I guess.
Yeah, I would NEVER display it today or anytime in recent years to be sure. It was quite different many decades ago but the younger generation would probably be unable to understand that.
I think maybe when it is displayed today it is not just merely a racist statement but perhaps one that is anti-government or at least anti-establishment against the status quo. Sometimes I would like to ask some of these people who display the stars and bars what point they are exactly trying to signify with it. But probably most of them are stupid Trump people so why even bother. LOL.
I think that I always liked this movie quite a bit but to be honest there are some real lulls in it. I find myself nowadays just skipping to the Greece segments of the film as I like them much more than the winter scenes. I enjoy the underwater parts and you can't forget 007's most cold-blooded scene when he kicks Locke's car over the cliff. Brutal.
Perhaps one of my favorite Bond franchise moments is when Bond and the girl are being dragged by Kristatos' boat with the sharks. Cool scene.
I think that I always liked this movie quite a bit but to be honest there are some real lulls in it. I find myself nowadays just skipping to the Greece segments of the film as I like them much more than the winter scenes. I enjoy the underwater parts and you can't forget 007's most cold-blooded scene when he kicks Locke's car over the cliff. Brutal.
Perhaps one of my favorite Bond franchise moments is when Bond and the girl are being dragged by Kristatos' boat with the sharks. Cool scene.
If you're going to have a pet, then keep it on a leash!
Yeah, I don't think that it ever did really jump the shark to be honest. As noted, the final season or two were a bit different in places but one could argue that it actually added something to the series.
As a fan of the show I thought it may have been cool to end the series with Magnum dying at the end of season 7. But I was certainly happy to see it come back for another season. The series finale wasn't quite as good as I had personally hoped for and I wasn't a big fan of the ending. But I guess it did make sense enough to see Magnum return to his naval career.
One thing I wished they had done is to make an updated Magnum tv movie every four or five years or so. It would have been great to see the characters again and what they were up to.
That's cool, Millsey. I am in my early 50s. It was just simply a lot different back decades ago regarding the Confederate flag and certainly a host of other things. I told you about how I had the shirt when I was like 11 and the license plate when I was like 17 back in the 1980s. Well fast forward to like the 2000s and my one uncle parked his truck up at my place while he was away on a fishing trip. He had the Confederate plate on his truck. Needless to say I got a board from the garage and covered it up so no one would see it and think that I supported what it came to signify by that time. The times were so very different by then and what it stood for by that time was so very different.
I applaud you on your willingness to discuss and listen to varying ideas of how things were and how things change so much over time. You're a good dude, Millsey!