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<blockquote>I don’t think I was ever with any guy who was a really good listener. Men seem to be in their own world, especially when sports are on TV!</blockquote>
All too true. But in my defense, I merely said that women value such men, not that there actually are any!
<blockquote>It seems like men have different standards for women.</blockquote>
That's OK -- I'm sure most men would say that women have different standards for men!
Just off the top of my head, women seem to value a man who is responsible, takes good care of himself, and is a good listener. Whereas (though I may be totally misjudging) men seem to value a woman who is "hot."
<blockquote>I suppose women still go for a man who is older and more established in his career. I was just talking about this to my sister the other day and she said, “ Young men are dumb!” She meant that men usually mature later than women.</blockquote>
Quite true. Of course that difference tends to diminish with age, which may explain why (for about 25 years, from college till I got married) I nearly always dated men who were about 30 -- old enough to relate to, but still physically young.
<blockquote>Hollywood has often paired up actors with younger women.</blockquote>
I think the main reason is that the men are seen as the actual "stars," whereas the women, even the big-name ones, are often seen as mostly decorative. Mercifully, I think that's starting to change (though, as with a lot of other things, I'd rather see the change being made because the respective stars work well together, rather than merely because "it's the right thing to do").
<blockquote>No one ever said to Ted that Georgette was young enough to be his daughter.</blockquote>
That was certainly true of the actors (with a nearly 25-year age difference). But of course most of the people we saw having personal conversations with Ted were men -- who were presumably thinking "Way to go!!!!"
Back some decades ago, a (female) friend of mine was acquainted with a well-known celebrity, who commented that his then-girlfriend probably had "a few good years left in her." My friend, shocked, pointed out that he was no spring chicken himself, to which he replied that with men, age doesn't matter. That actually does (still) seem to be true in some cases, at least when (as in that case) the man has status and/or money.
There's also a real-world reason -- namely that they were no longer able to film new exterior shots of her old place -- because the real owner of the house was sick and tired of people ringing her doorbell, wanting to come in and see Mary's apartment.
I assume that's simply a lingering trace of the days when a man was expected to work long enough to earn enough money to "establish" himself before marrying -- at which point he would look for a wife young enough to bear him a substantial family while she was still fertile. It gradually became more acceptable to marry for love instead of practicality, but it was still considered "normal" for the man to be at least as old as the woman (and I imagine that's still the case to a certain extent), but it's my impression that attitudes have continued to relax during the 50 years since "Angels in the Snow" aired.
Just taking Ms. Moore's life as an example of how the old stereotypes are relaxing, her first husband (Richard Meeker) was 8 years older than her and her second husband (Grant Tinker) was 11 years older than her -- then after their divorce she dated men a few years younger than herself -- and her third husband (Dr. Richard Levine, whom she married ten years after "Angels in the Snow" aired) was 18 years younger.
I think the whole point of Elliot Carlin was to be unlikable. (Not saying that the character wanted to be unlikable -- though I suspect he did -- more that the writers wanted him to be unlikable.) So he was a successful character.
To me, though, he was funny-unlikable, while to you he was apparently annoying-unlikable.
<blockquote> How can we possibly find it plausible a navigator can be so dumb???</blockquote>
There are different kinds of "dumb." I don't think Howard is particularly illogical or ignorant. Mostly he just has his own way of looking at things, which is apparently not inconsistent with aircraft navigation.
Someone compared Howard to Dick Martin's character on Laugh-In. That character was itself based on the version of herself that Gracie Allen played on Burns & Allen. Oddly enough, I think Howard (at least in the early seasons) had more in common with Gracie than with Dick.
I never noticed either. But maybe this explains why I don't have much trouble remembering the names, despite the fairly large number of regular and recurring characters.
Unless I'm misinterpreting pretty badly, the so-called "den" is the little alcove to the left of the kitchen. There doesn't seem to be a door on it, so it wouldn't be a particularly good spot for a second TV.
The Newhart statue is on the Navy Pier, almost at the far end, to your right as you're headed out there.
I've been there, but before the statue was (likewise the Mary statue in Mpls.)
I agree with several people about Larry, Darryl, & Darryl. It got to the point where the audience spent the first part of each episode basically waiting for them to show up -- sort of the way Good Times degenerated into waiting for J. J. to say "Dy-no-mite!"
The show had its good points. I love Tom Poston, and I think I liked Mary Frann's character a little better than Suzanne Pleshette's. But LD&D kinda ruined it for me. I watched the whole series on broadcast, but haven't bothered buying the DVD.
We do have TBNS on DVD, and it actually seems to have improved with age.
Apparently they blacked out all home games until 1973, when they adopted a "sold out" exception. But the game had to be sold out at least 72 hours beforehand, to allow time for the broadcast changes to be made. So either this game occurred just before that rule change or the last ticket wasn't sold in time.
I've been assuming that she wore those long skirts as a "hostess outfit" at home. When she comes to Bob's office, she tends to wear pants.
But she's also a part-time teacher, and now I'm trying to recall what she wore in the "career day" episode (when several professionals, including Bob, told her class about their jobs). OK, I checked Quora, and apparently most schools dropped their "no slacks" rule (for female students and teachers) in the early 70s when skirts got so short that slacks were actually the more conservative choice.
When I say "original Matlock" and "new Matlock," I'm referring to the titles of the two shows, rather than their lead characters.
<blockquote>As we have learned, the character's name isn't really Matlock.</blockquote>
My personal impression is that her maiden name was probably Matlock. Is that what you mean, that she now uses her husband's last name -- or do you mean that her name never was Matlock? If the latter, I'm interested to know your reasons.
If you mean what he's best known for, I think that'd be The Office, Sherlock, and The Hobbit. Fargo was also a good role, though.
That was my impression too, even though I don't recall them ever flat-out stating that it was. But a lot of people seem to be saying that she used the name "Matlock" as a random alias, or just so she could put people at ease (and off guard) with a Griffith-show joke -- which puzzles me, so I'm hoping someone will explain why they're saying that. I could easily have missed something.
I assume the younger cast members are there to draw in younger viewers. (And for the laugh when they don't understand the "Matlock" reference.)
I think the tie-in is the main character's quirks and capabilities -- an older lawyer with a southern accent who fools people with their "jes' folks" persona, but then surprises everyone by figuring out what's really going on and thereby winning the case.
Someone that inexplicably rubs me the wrong way, you mean? Can't offhand think of anyone like that at any of my jobs.
I will say, though, that I would have dearly LOVED having Toby instead of the actual HR guy at one job!!!
Ha! Had forgotten about him. Let's see, the senator said his wife had died. It's possible that was a euphemism for divorce (in order to get Angela's sympathy), in which case the boy could be living with his mother. (And if Angela asked about him later, he could say it was his nephew who was visiting from another state, which would "explain" why she never sees him again.)
Or right, could have actually been his nephew, or a neighbor's kid.