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You're anti-science because you're against science which is saying that SARS-CoV-2 is quite unlike polio, which even with polio we were vaccinating near 100% not a random number like 70% (for a more infectious virus none the less). What fake news reports to calm the public and what our reality is differ quite a bit.
In fact, we didn't eradicate polio, it still exists and because polio vaccination rates are going down there are pro-vaxxers who were trying to explain to anti-science people that even a small percentage of anti-vaxxers is enough to put the vaccinated people in danger of catching the disease. SARS-CoV-2 has been undoing all the hard work pro-vaxxers were doing to educate the public on how stupid it is to be an anti-vaxxer by spreading blatant lies and misinformation.
Even worse are the lies about stopping mutations, you need to understand that the vaccine only lowers the chances of you showing symptoms or dying if you do show symptoms. People who are vaccinated can catch and can spread SARS-CoV-2.
The only method of treating this pandemic is for people to stop listening to politicians and recognize we all need to self-quarantine. People want to believe the vaccine is going to end the pandemic when every medical doctor knows it isn't. This has become endemic, it is going to be with us for the rest of our lives.
It's called science, which people like you don't like to believe because it reveals inconvenient truths.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fonc.2021.708017/full?utm_source=F-NTF&utm_medium=EMLX&utm_campaign=PRD_FEOPS_20170000_ARTICLE
Appeal to authority is not a valid argument. You have NO ARGUMENT because science has proven you're a lying trump voter.
You do realize your entire argument is "ionizing radiation can damage cells, ergo non-ionizing radiation can't damage cells" which only someone who never graduated would claim is a logical argument. Besides, we don't even need to damage cells to have an effect on cells, I mean, this is logic 101.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28472042/
Sorry you fake science lunatic, but science proved you wrong.
SARS-CoV-2 is not going away, the economy is already ruined. Repeating pro-vaccine propaganda isn't going to change that SARS-CoV-2 is going to be with us for the next century, that everyone will catch and spread SARS-CoV-2 regardless of vaccination status, that the non-sterilizing immunity provided by the vaccine is only effective at reducing mortality rate.
There is never going to be a "back to normal" ever again... the sooner you all get this, the sooner we'll get the numbers under control. Stop thinking these vaccines are a solution and that the problem lies only with the anti-vaxxers. You all did this too when it was "if you're masked, then you can violate self-quarantine and go spread the virus, killing thousands because you're too selfish to remain home."
The reality is that your overly optimistic statistics were done on people who wore masks and self-quarantined while they were vaccinated. This push to make the spread of SARS-CoV-2 worse by pretending these vaccines have eradicated the virus is insane.
"But more importantly, are people always entitled to their opinions no matter how wrong, illogical, at times even prejudiced and self-centered, incorrect, etc, they are?"
This is especially why people are entitled to voice their own views, because nearly everyone on this planet believes those who don't share their views are "wrong, illogical, at times even prejudiced and self-centered, incorrect, etc." We, as a species, have this horrible tendency to join up with people of similar ideology and then brainlessly begin parroting anything else we learn from those people. This is the reason appeal to majority is a fallacy, it doesn't matter how many people mindlessly repeat the same things over and over, it's a question of whether those things are right.
More so, deprogramming people who have gotten themselves in these groups is near impossible. They reinforce their beliefs with the knowledge that there are hundreds of thousands of others who believe the same thing and they can't all be wrong.
"How come today, including on public forums such as this, many people MAY come out to challenge them and in others, they are just accepted as an unfortunate statistic, is that normal?"
In terms of group think, it is quite normal for people to attack those whose ideology doesn't match that of the group. It is effective, especially when in person, to use the power of numbers to shift a person's ideology to a new ideology. Why do you think there are so many Trumpers? Part of the lie we tell ourselves is that there are good people and there are bad people and we are "obviously" one of the good. There are just people, they will always naturally gravitate to like ideas but can be made to adopt ideas they never considered in their lives with only a little pressure. Most people don't honestly like thinking, most people are followers who want to be told what to think, who want others to agree with them even when they're objectively wrong...
And X-rays are also EM radiation, but no one is trying to convince people that it's absolutely safe to bathe in a field of them. UV is also EM radiation, great for causing melanomas and burning your retinas.
What is so imaginary about the proven fact that holding a mobile phone to your ear is marked with an increased risk of cancer? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28472042/
There is plenty of evidence about how human caused EM pollution is affecting the migratory patterns of birds. Is it really so hard to believe that negative health side effects can occur in humans?
Good subtitling has everything the actor says, and sometimes you'll find stuff that was barely audible that the subtitles read loud and clear. I recall once, while watching The Ring, there was a barely audible part where the main character said something akin to "where did you go?" (while she was standing at the bottom of a creepy well looking for the creepy girl she followed into the well)
I absolutely hate that subtitles almost never match what is being said, be they English language or foreign language.
Then your science denying nonsense is what got him elected in the first place. People who hate science as much as you do don't understand anything about this virus and spew complete BS because understanding facts is scary to them.
There is no scientific reasoning behind the random crap being spewed by politicians (yes, even doctors can be politicians), COVID-19 isn't going to go away anytime with in the next 100 years. Anyone who is educated understands this to be true.
Anyone who is educated understands that so much of the crap politicians and faux-doctors are spewing is to control the information that there is nothing we can do to "go back to normal." That everyone, be they vaccinated or not vaccinated, is capable of catching this illness and capable of spreading it.
We do not have a vaccine that provides sterilizing immunity. For a virus like this it is unlikely we'll develop one. Painfully low balled numbers mask just how screwed we are.
Another trump voting anti science idiot who doesn't understand science.
I get that you're a complete idiot, you need 99% vaccinated for the vaccine to be effective at stopping any spread you anti-science trump voting lunatic.
The problem with fake news is that it remains fake no matter how much you repeat it. All versions of SARS-CoV-2 affect all age groups, it's just that the mortality rates are significantly higher with older and infirm people.
The real issue is that everyone knows the vaccine isn't anywhere close to 95% effective and we're being told tales of how getting the vaccine means we cannot catch SARS-CoV-2 and cannot die from it to keep us from panicking. There's a reduced chance yes, but not enough to allow young people to keep spreading the virus around to the old people who have such belief in the vaccine protecting them enough that they no longer bother to wear masks.
I say also, only in the world of fake news does anyone actually believe 70% vaccinated is anywhere near enough to provide a herd immunity effect. All being said just to keep the public from panicking, we need closer to 99% immunized to reduce the spread of the virus enough to provide herd immunity protections, and this vaccine isn't particularly good at providing a sterilizing immunity.
More reason why we shouldn't be dropping our guard which is naturally only going to result in a resurgence of cases. The issue has always been the young people, who are germ factories, spreading to older people. It was a mistake to pretend we didn't need 100% vaccination compliance when the science said we did, just like it's a mistake to try starting up panic to get young people vaccinated instead of explaining the reality that they can easily become carriers, never know they have the virus, and spread it to their parents or loved ones. Emphasize that social distancing and masks are bare minimum protections, and not enough to save their parent's lives if they spread the virus.
Wow, I have never seen that movie but it never ceases to amaze me what practical effects of the past were like. The planning involved, the permissions needed to dam up the river or even build a bridge on it, You don't see that kind of devotion anymore.
That's 90% of all humor.
Rainbow Dash : [about her rushed and haphazard decorating] Oh come on, it's fine!
Rarity : If you were raised in a barn! Ahem, no offense, Applejack.
Applejack : None taken. Espeically since I wasn't raised in a barn. My family just happens to have a barn. Where I was born. And... spent most of my formative years...
Rainbow Dash : [very quickly] You were raised in a barn!
So your CS major doesn't play video games, doesn't watch movies, heck many youtube clips have some music in them.
He probably means that he'd rather do something else with his time than sit around only listening to music.
Space elevators work under the same concept that the batman vehicle claw works. That being batman shoots out a claw attached to a cord that helps him turn his vehicle around very quickly. The problem isn't the physics or the math, the problem is materials science explains that the cord will not hold up. A space elevator hides its problems under that same materials science issue, you need a cable that can remain in tension and support not only the entire length of the cable but also the force of constantly being flung around the earth at over 1000 mph.
Sure, we could use unobtainium and claim that in the future we'll go to pandora and get it to build our space elevator... but real world materials science keeps crushing this as a pipe dream.
I am not wondering why flying cars haven't happened... I know why, because the cost of flying is significantly more than the cost of driving such that only rich people can actually afford flying cars. We created the idea of a future that made no sense when people went about thinking we'd all be traveling by air; similarly how it makes no sense that space will ever be something that the common man would have access to.
The best parallel to space is the ocean, and how many people have ships capable of sailing from continent to continent?
I was just playing off the idea that all photos are past photos... the "future photos" were taken in the past of some future.
Exactly... but they're much cheaper than using SFX. I think many people don't remember how good it was when we used real vehicles and real explosions and actually burned down real sets (not just miniatures.) There was a time when you had to have things done in reality, you couldn't put it in after filming, and the films looked much better for it. Stunts done by actual stuntmen > cgi stuntmen.