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Reviewing my list from two years ago it's hard not to declare a tie with 1 - 5. All five are a 10/10 for me. With the rest not far behind, with the exception of Dune. Though if a version with the cut footage ever gets back into the theatrical release my score would undoubtedly increase. You yourself present a good definition of stupidity. Engaging in a conversation, telling someone they are wrong about something when they refuse (or can't) explain why. This would entail correcting me on what a cult is and explaining why I am misapplying the term. Then explaining your reasoning as to why I am wrong from that point moving forward. The only thing you've offered is "by that definition every new religion would be a cult according to your definition." Ok, so what? That's not an argument against my understanding of what a cult is, you are just stating the obvious. But then, you are clearly too stupid to have this kind of conversation. Excessively stupid. And I suspect too stupid to have any normal conversation. Off to the troll bin with you. Still no definition as to what a cult is eh? You amuse me. Which makes it extra sad knowing how much he wanted to make this . . . Even if it's picked up and made it will still be sad knowing he isn't around to see it happen. Oddly enough, I just happened to begin a re-watch of Twin Peaks last night. Once the 3 seasons and prequel are finished I'll continue with the rest of his work. A 10/10 in my book. I've been bracing myself for news like this since his fragile state and battle with emphysema was made known. Was hoping he'd carry on against all odds. So sad, so very sad. My all time favorite film was his creation. Mulholland Drive. Then so many other films of his I'd give a 10/10 also. It's fair to say he was and always will be my favorite filmmaker. RIP You know, for all your bleating and blubbering over this nonsense you’ve yet to offer your definition of a cult and exactly why you think early Christianity wouldn’t be considered as such. I punch in “cult” and get these online definitions: “a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.” And “a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister” and “a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.” All of those definitions would have meant that Christianity would have been considered a cult by some in the early stages of development. Not to mention, there was no one single group of potential Christianity’s that would obviously be the “winner” in the first 300 or so years. You had at least this many groups that we know of (there were undoubtedly more): Ebionites: Jewish Christians who venerated Jesus as the Messiah who would restore an earthly kingdom for Israel – who believed in keeping all of the OT laws. Marcionites: who believed, among other things, that there were two Gods – one evil and one good – and all one needed for salvation was belief – no Jewish laws required. Gnostics – there may have been many variations on this group, but in general, believed each person would only achieve salvation by receiving personal divine revelation. There was also the Qumran community occupied by the Essenes, another group called the Nazarenes, etc. All of the sects mentioned had splinter groups so the total number we’ll never know. Then of course you had the proto orthodox group that finally won out and squeezed the competition nearly out of existence in the 4th century. This is painting broad strokes and off the top of my head, but the point is that ALL of these groups would have been viewed as a cult by the Jewish mainstream of the day. "but the commonly-accepted usage today simply doesn't fit the claim" Oh I don't know about that. Christians today (generally speaking) consider any religion a cult that deviates from the seven or so fundamental tenets held by the faith. But if you consider a cult that of a small group who followed a central and charismatic leader, with specific beliefs, practises, and other things out of the norm. Then Christianity was a cult. Initially. And btw, since you're a Christian, why would you care what "outsiders" called you had you been alive back in the day? They were getting fed to the lions and not complaining. You throw a fit over a word used on a message board aswim in a meaningless subculture. Grow a pair. I had a friend in the service who signed me up for a visit from the Mormons as a joke once. When they came knocking I informed them that I didn't request the visit, that the request was a joke on the part of my friend. Their heads dropped in disappointment, but I quickly added that since they went to the trouble to come over they were welcome in to give their presentation. They visited once a week for four weeks and then concluded by asking if I wanted to join their church. They knew where I stood by then and that the answer was no. But the discussions we had were enjoyable. I quizzed them here and there and it was obvious they didn't know anything off script. But they were pleasant and I more or less enjoyed the experience. View all replies >