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Agree about it being essentially a Hallmark-style movie with deaf-leads. Will she stay or will she go? Will she serve her family, or follow her dream?
Really?
Is there any tension?
Aside from the deaf leads there was nothing particularly original in this film. The father in particular was charming & engaging. His nomination is well-deserved.
Yeah. As a Marine it's unlikely he ever served in the European theater. He told his dad he bought it off a guy who claimed it was the pistol Hitler used to commit suicide. No doubt a lot confiscated p08s & P38s were claimed thus. Obviously he didn't believe it. He can't have paid much for it, which is surprising given that the P08 was one of the most prized souvenirs a GI could bring home. Still, it made sense.
Hope you enjoy 1883. I think you will. In addition to the pioneers' sudden command of English, there's an issue raised in the prologue that leaves one to wonder if or how they'll resolve it by the end of the season. There were, of course, a few scenes with pioneer Dutton & part of his family in Yellowstone after they arrived. We don't see Elsa, however. So it's possible she's not intended to make it all the way. If you've seen the first episode you'll know what I mean.
Indeed, there's so much absurd pusillanimity in Jamie. It goes beyond weak writing, esp. of a show rated 8.8 on imdb.
First: how did Jamie ever betray John in the first place? He quit the AG race, refused backing from Rainwater, even got kicked out of his girlfriend's apartment as a result. All in order not to go against John. Yet John issues that threat "betray me again & you're dead to me."
Getting to the finale. Jamie should have covered his tracks, knowing John or Kayce would have followed up with the convict. Then he entertains Beth in his office. Yet again. Why not have her thrown out before she can say a word. She has a gun when capital police arrive? All the better.
Beth threatens to tell Rip about the baby & abortion. How is the guy who doesn't have a drivers license or birth certificate going to find Jamie wherever he might hide in the world? How is Rip supposed to believe that even at a younger age Jamie made Beth do anything? If she had an abortion, it was her choice. She also chose the reservation rather than town. Yeah, Jamie should have told her, but she should also have known. And I don't buy hysterectomy. Tubal ligation, perhaps. But hysterectomy is more than day surgery. Tubal can sometimes be reversed.
And how did he happen to know exactly where the bodies were dumped? (And why did Beth?) As pointed out, he could claim that what he's hoisting isn't a body at all. Just a bag of feed. Anything. But of course he won't.
Bad as Beth is, Jamie is worse for accepting all of this. Garrett was dead wrong to think he'd taught Jamie to stand for himself. I don't see how he's let John or the family down. Why John would regard him as a failure or disappointment. But he can't or won't confront him even on that topic. Nevermind the praise he got for handling the lease v. purchase issue.
Much as I enjoy seeing this part of the country, I probably won't follow anymore of Yellowstone.
Very good point about starvation. Granted you can't expect the actors to lose weight given the flashbacks & forwards, but they certainly could act a bit more listless.
Fair point re cannibalism vs. murder. As I recall the Uruguayans went 72 days, the girls 19 months. There's no way anyone killed in the crash or dying subsequently would sustain them that long. People had to die along the way to supply food. I suppose some might have starved & the rest eaten, but still, I just don't see what they did not being obvious to investigators.
Re the plane, in all fairness whoever landed the plane would have needed a runway of sorts, so maybe it was just a matter of clearing an already established rough runway. Still strange about the bear. Hope some clarification is in the works.
You're probably right about the fixer. She foolishly believed she was out of danger.
Good point about the necklace. I've seen in other forums it mentioned as something of a harbinger.
Yeah. Given that she wasn't mentioned at the reunion suggests no one knows exactly where she is or even if she survived.
What do you base this on?
I agree. But I think the dog's death was a genuine accident. I don't think the kids meant to take it that far. And it was contrived. What dog is going to run out the open door & freeze to death without at least trying to bark her way back in?
Still, it did send her over the edge.
I think, given the circumstances, the better way would be to pretend he never existed at all.
Not certain I would have noticed had I not heard about the switch beforehand, but once you realize it, it becomes very obvious. Still have to wonder what it's like for the actors. In addition to no shot being fired on the set, now firearms really have infinite ammunition & need never run out.
That's not what being a helmet's like at all. Sexual pleasure's just fine, thanks & no dick pills needed.
Where are earth did you get the impression that being circumcised results in the above?
It's a crime to "mouth off" to cops? Really? Cite the relevant ordinances on that?
Possible the writers have come up against the "Lost" phenomenon, where you create weird, challenging circumstances; present crazy, other-worldly phenomena, but when all is said & done you really don't have a good, satisfying explanation that ties everything together.
How to portray the unimaginable?
Still, the cabbie's words notwithstanding, the final scenes strongly suggest plans for more seasons.
Just watched it. Agree. I thought they were going someplace with it. Stories can leave hints, allow for I inferences, not explain everything, but they shouldn't require the viewer to speculate. Here my guess would be they killed a raft mate to make supplies last longer, but perhaps there wasn't a more benign explanation. It probably would have been better left out.
I appreciated them avoiding casting the boyfriend as an archetypical coward, first he scorns her experience, then shies away when she needs him the most. But he showed great bravery in both encounters. He might have survived had he just let the monster take her.
I agree. Curry already realized who Henry was, saying that Pat Garrett must have helped him escape, before the big shootout. The ending felt more necessary than organic to the script & characters. After all, Curry was sincere when he told Henry & Wyatt to leave while he held off the gang. No, it was definitely Henry having seen the brand that prompted Curry to shoot him. One can only guess that he assumed Henry would insist on turning him in. Recall he told the Mexican guy he'd take him to the local sheriff (of course that was in Spanish & we've no reason to assume Curry understands it).
It was linking Unforgiven to High Noon to Road to Perdition.
Let us only hope Wyatt doesn't wind up getting ground up in Great War...
Just watched. Based on the rating was expecting something better, more original. It simply borrowed tropes from High Tension, The Strangers, I Know What You Did Last Summer & probably a few others. I rarely complain about acting quality. I usually take it as it comes, but Vanessa Grasse was singularly unpersuasive as the tormented ex. The ending, I presume, to mean she'll always see him, even though he's really gone.
Altogether very weak & unoriginal. Just another excuse to employ the stalking killer who can't be stopped. More like a 3.9 than a 5.5.
What the others said. The main issue, I think, was why Owen? Presumably the entity represented the nothingness she experienced, chaos, emptiness. Okay. It wanted her back, but why go through Owen? If he had had some background in the occult perhaps, or a similar experience. Clearly the entity could get to her directly, otherwise why would Owen need to set up mazes & offer substitutes?
Otherwise it was fairly clear: Owen's suicide was presumably guilt over the women he killed. And this also helps to explain the abruptness of the ending. She can't really say she was wrong about Owen; he really loved her & wasn't it sweet ... that he killed all of these lookalike women in her place. Who says romance is dead?!
There were promises left unfulfilled. E.g. where was this maze Owen studied on? It was hinted at in the architecture & design. But nothing in the fake house suggested its fruition. I expect the sketch she finds in the book is supposed to be the ancient doll with pins in it. But it doesn't appear to be placed anywhere special.
I think the problem with stories such as this go back to Lovecraft: We're intrigued by chaos & nothingness, what they might embody, but we can't imagine or portray them. Recall Event Horizon? It suggests that Hell is nothing more than pure chaos, entropy. But how do you portray it? With kinky sex & human sacrifice?
I think they had the same problem here. An intriguing set up that failed to deliver the goods.
No doubt the plot holes due to changes in the screenplay as they shot it damage the story overall. I for one never believed Deckard was a replicant. It does answer some questions, sure, but makes the story overall seem less compelling. I think the parallels between Deck & the replicants—his collection of photos, the dream, Rachel challenging him did he ever take the test himself—were intended more to demonstrate the absurdity of creating beings so alike human ("More human than human!") & then not expecting the to behave as humans, e.g. revolt, murder.
Of course that wasn't your main issue. Sure, if BR were made today for the first time it'd be made differently. Scott & Co were playing around with special effects, set design, they didn't put as much effort into the screenplay as they ought to have.
To me, however, it remains an all-time classic, & one of the best movies made in & about my hometown.