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If you are going to teach girls to be an asssholes, and that they can beat anyone up, or punch someone just because they don't like the person or what they say, then you're going to cause more harm than good to them. And that's what those movies teach them, especially current franchises such as MCU ones.
And they also teach boys to be submissive to them.
You're saying kickass female characters are sexy, but in reality, if you were the one being beated up by one of those stickgirls, you'd crawl in some tight hole from shame, wouldn't you? Bed fetishism aside, that is.
And I'm glad I was kinda right when I said in my original post: "But do you know why men were so silent about stuff like these for so long? [...] because the female characters were usually attractive, so it felt like a recompense to some guys... I guess?"
If those men don't deserve respect, then the female characters that act way worse than them don't deserve it either yet got all the applause.
By that I meant that girls don't have the same set of weaknesses and strengths that boys have.
Action movies especially. In MCU movies for instance, it has happened at least in Antman, Ragnarok and Endgame.
In that case it's more about the personality of Cap. Marvel and how girls are supposed to look up to her
I mean, if you're watching more quality stuff than the mainstream, then you surely could notice it less frequently. But there certainly are people who see what I do (mentioned in the links, at the end).
And it doesn't make ME feel emasculated, because, to me, they are just an annoying tropes that I wish would die, especially if they wanna play this "equality" thing. However they could potentially affect kids in the wrong way, I THINK.
Thanks, means a lot!
I think we're talking about a bit different things
Read the 3rd point
It's obviously not just about being buff as I've mentioned Chris Hemsworth. There is the special kind of respect and aura that men got in the past that is obviously missing in most of the modern works. And the female characters are partly the ones who took it from them, which I mentioned in the "cliche" section (2nd point). You can also click on the 1st link to see that many people've noticed the same.
...it's a 3rd link...
They never whined but they never felt like standing there in awe, getting owned by them, and looking worse overall, genius.
Okay, then how many movies can you name when the opposite happens to what I mentioned in the "cliched" section?
Nature is not playing your political games, girls are going to be like girls vast majority of the time, just like boys are going to be like boys vast majority of the time. It's better to make stuff suitable for what they like than to satisfy needs of minorities and brainwash the majorities at the same time, weakening the society as a whole. We never needed it before and yet we have SoMeHoW progressed quite naturally and calmly during that time.
And it still doesn't change the fact that men are being shitted on in fiction quite regularly.
then click on the 1st link in the last part of my post
It means more, but in action movies, that are targeted towards male audiences mostly, I remind you, these are one of the major traits for men, yes. Including confidence
Also, I clearly wrote "Women are portrayed to be as physically capable as men, or even more capable, way TOO OFTEN" - not that being more capable once upon some time is a no-no too.
That being said, if the female character is as strong/er than a man who he himself is stronger than vast majority/all of other men in the world, then that certainly is unrealistic. Unless the woman is the only one working out...
And I think you should read the entire thing, without skipping stuff on the way. Because you might've missed stuff like: "females generally don't work out and fight as often as men do"
or
"we should teach girls that femininity is great too, especially because it's more natural to them"
That wouldn't really fix anything, would it? Unless I'd magically make everyone watch them.
Can't disagree.
may teach some people a bit of respect towards hardworking men, that includes the Hollyweed writers and financers who will hopefully become the victims of this too!
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AND HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES of people thinking similarly to me, just so you know I'm not some special kind of weirdo
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https://imgur.com/a/UQKymmJ ( scroll down for more)
https://springhole.net/writing/female-character-issues.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jumw30_j9cs
Why is that a problem? I think that because of this, and the previous points, you're killing passion in boys.
Passion to train themselves to protect others, especially girls and women. Overall, men like being needed and fight/compete, by nature. And it's pretty obvious to me, personally, that after the "girl power!" movies females won't suddenly start training to become stronger (I remind you such productions existed much earlier too). They usually don't have this fighting spirit in them that guys have. And even in the rare cases when they do, they need to spend a lot more time to become as strong as their male counterparts.
Meanwhile, boys may feel discouraged to be protective, because they may be thinking that girls are just as strong as them, so what's the point in giving a crap? Especially when the current "men" in movies are, like I said, a goofballs who have to deal with a sassy, cold-blooded female "badasses" that need no men, but will gladly put them down in a heartbeat instead. I mean, what can put you off more from working out as a teenager than seeing a skinny woman that easily beats up a man (or men) with Hercule-like muscles, all while she acts arrogant and proud of how much better she is?
This also obviously sets a bad example for girls who should learn to embrace their own traits they are comfortable with (that are usually connected to their gender), instead of treating femininity as a weakness and thinking that they're a LITERAL equals to boys. And treating boys like trash too (I mean, the fact that girls find Captain Marvel a good role model, makes me feel worried).
6. Men have instincts that normally WANT us to protect women when we see them in a seemingly bad situation (like some man screaming on them publicly, even if he is of similar size the woman is, according to social experiments), but, out of spite, more and more men may eventually stop protecting women. And, if this keeps up, I hope they will,
because that