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No, not really, unless this film was saying that Carterism represented a betrayal of 60's style activism. If you'll recall, it was either Sutherland or one of the other actors who said in the film "All our old friends (from the 60's, presumably) have BECOME REPBULCIANS". The choice of San Francisco as the setting is no accident, either, as it was a focal point of the 60's counter-culture movement. Metaphorically, everyone in SF went to sleep and awoke as a Republican replacement. You may not agree with the film's politics, but I think this was it's intent. Remember, Carter was a Southern Baptist Democrat, much more conservative than what we would consider liberal Democrat today, and certainly much less radical than say, McGovern was in the 1972 election. Recall, also, that Carter was so unpopular among the ultra-liberal base that Ted Kennedy mounted a very serious primary challenge to him in the 1980 Democratic primaries. Needless to say, Kennedy did not win the primary and Carter was not re-elected in 1980. The Conservative backlash against 60's-70's style liberal activism fully came to a head with the election of Reagan in 1980. The next Democrat to become president was Bill Clinton, another Southerner from Arkansas, won in 1992 and 1996. Even more so (and more successfully) than Carter, Clinton co-opted many Republican positions, especially after the mid-term "Contract with America" wave of Republicans in Congress forced his hand.
Williams seemed to have the lion share of luck during most of the 70's and 80's. Obviously, an "opportunity lost" for Williams was an "opportunity gained" for Goldsmith, Horner, Barry, etc. I thought I indicated as much ("no bigee", "he did good", etc.) in my OP with Poltergeist, The Twilight Zone, and Willow. Never cared much for the LotR score, to be frank.
"Looking for Mr. Akbar" is one of my all-time favorite movies. Apparently, the good Admiral was a bit of a swinger back in the day.
It will be interesting to see how things play out for Han Solo and IX. Han Solo sucking probably won't hurt them that much, since I think people are already going in with lowered expectations, which might actually help it. Both Han Solo AND IX sucking could start to take a toll on the franchise long term though, don't you think? My main point was that Rogue One's relative popularity gave The Last Jedi and Han Solo a bit more breathing room to perform (for some people, anyway) lower than expectations than they would have had otherwise.
I just think they were hearkening back to classic World War II films from the '60s like The Dirty Dozen and The Guns of Navarone. Navarone in particular has a scene with a (SPOILERS) female Nazi collaborator and one discussion in particular between Gregory Peck and David Niven that have clear parallels with Rogue One.
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Doesn't every movie "insist upon itself"? What else was it supposed to insist upon, if not itself? What the hell does that even mean, anyway?
Your mamma sews socks that smell.
He came here on a basketball scholarship. It was Spring Break and he thought "What the hell?".
With the way they treat Finn in these films (like a schmuck and a clown) he'll probably end up with that other trilogy clown Captain Phasma (who isn't dead and secretly loves him).
The problem is if he was raised from birth in storm trooper culture, he should have had a sense of camaraderie with his fellows. If he lacked this for some reason surely it would have been detected much sooner and this weakness would have either been rooted out or he would have been booted out. I thought he was supposed to be in sanitation, anyway. How did he end up in combat? If the storm troopers are that bad at building esprit de corps and weeding out bad apples that kind of undercuts the remarkablenss of his decision to quit, doesn't it? Obviously, the clone troopers and FNN 2187 (Finn) were modeled to some extent after the title character in Lucas' film THX-1138. If Finn had stopped taking his medication, for instance, like Robert Duvall in THX-1138 that would have been a much better explanation of his awakening. If Lucas had been more involved in these films I'm sure Finn's awakening and his decision to leave the First Order would have been much better developed. That would have taken time and effort to do that, though, and the sequel trilogy has showed no interest so far in doing that sort of spade work.
That's true. It's their fault anyway because reds are "illegal immigrants" usurping the sovereignty of the squirrels, bison and caribou already there. Serves them right anyway for being "pro-immigration" and letting all those whites in.
(Seriously, I actually heard a Trump person saying this about Native Americans on a Politics discussion board. There's lots of hypocrisy on all sides when it comes to that.)
Akbar was red, so I guess I can't eat him. A shame really. Some good meat there.
Damn it, I can't even eat fish anymore because it's not PC.
Yeah, I had a sneaky suspicion that this was the case...he he. You got my drift precisely. And just to drive it home for anyone that hasn't gotten it, the fact that Akbar body wasn't recovered proves that the force shield theory is impossible, therefore Leia's going back to the ship was impossible force push or no force push. The other possibility is that no one cared enough about Akbar and the rest and left their dead bodies floating around outside the ship. Must have been pretty gross and creepy for the crew.
Holdo would probably insist on doing it, being the snarky, bossy jerk that she is. She would probably say of Akbar that he was "a dangerous hot head who needed to either shut up or be slapped", and then invite everyone into the Officers' Quarters for a fish fillet dinner. So no ashes to spread. Just send the urn back to Mrs. Admiral Akbar with some nice flowers and a note that says "Shut up".
Good. By the way, who do you think should do the eulogy at Akbar's funeral and where do they spread the ashes?
I would only support that if Arnold Schwarzenneger was given some voice over work doing his famous "AGGGHHHHHHHHH!" grunt.
I hear a Star Wars stand-alone entitled "Looking for Mr. Akbar" is in the works. Rian Johnson is set to direct. I must say, this thread has gone off on an odd tangent. How can it not, though, where the Admiral is involved?
This scenario gives "frozen fish stick" a whole new meaning, doesn't it?