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Was thinking the same thing...you'd think you were watching a sci-fi movie. Also it was really annoying how the characters were always talking over each other...gave me a headache.
Watched this on Disney Plus, and yep I've thought that since seeing it for the first time...it had "toys" that kids might've liked in the 40s and 50s, but not early 90s when this came out.
Other than liking Apocalypse, I completely agree with your post. The Dark Phoenix Saga is overrated...it's only held up as being great by people who were reading comics at the time (in other words, they'd be pushing 50 now). Hell, I really didn't have major problems with the Dark Phoenix movie besides the fact that it was adapting a storyline I didn't think was all that great and was already adapted for X:TLS.
DoFP was just ok...agreed. I was glad I finally got to see Sentinels in these movies and it was good to see the old cast back one last time, but other than that, it just wasn't that good. I like the cartoon's adaptation of DoFP much better.
I guess what I'm saying is that for the inevitable MCU reboot, I hope they go a different route than just adapting Claremont/Byrne stories unless there's a Claremont/Byrne story that hasn't been done on in film yet and would make for a good one. I'm all ears...
Anyway, Days of Future Past wasn't a faithful adaptation. Wolverine wasn't the one who went back in time, and Kitty didn't send him there (she doesn't have that power). Magneto wasn't in the past scenes in the comic. How was Dark Phoenix that different from the source material? No Hellfire Club (they had already been used in First Class) and no big battle in space, but it otherwise didn't seem that different. I didn't hate the Dark Phoenix movie...it kept me entertained and it did have some well-done scenes, but it's time to move on from that storyline.
Uh...these movies have been following the Byrne/Claremont run for the most part.
Star Trek Nemesis sounds like an apt comparison. Another film in a long-running franchise that lost its opening weekend to a movie that didn't even have much buzz (Maid in Manhattan or Secret Life of Pets 2...not sure which is more embarrassing) and probably was hurt some by the lukewarm reception to the previous film. Though I think Nemesis also had the problem of a four-year lapse since the last movie...people had forgotten about Star Trek: TNG by then. There was only a two-year gap between the other TNG movies.
I think he becomes completely unsympathetic when he sends his second wife to certain death. She was innocent and adored Lester (and also we know that back in Vegas, Lester was planning on cheating on her before he ran into Malvo). Before that, Lester just hurt people who had hurt him (although admittedly murdering your wife and framing your brother for that murder was a bit extreme considering they just verbally abused him).
I am a bigger X-Men fan than Avengers fan (just like most comic fans who grew up in the 90s)...this is true, but I still think overall that the MCU has been better than the Fox X-Men films, which have been underwhelming as a whole and focused too much on some characters at the expense of others. Also, they've done a piss poor job of keeping continuity straight.
However, Age of Ultron was definitely one of the MCU's weaker efforts. I don't feel like its story, action, or visual effects were better than Apocalypse. It's just that the casual moviegoing public (and critics) both a) prefers the Avengers' characters to the X-Men characters and b) is turned off by the X-Men films' recasting characters from the original trilogy. Other than the Iron Man vs. Hulk fight, Age of Ultron was very forgettable.
Yeah, I know WHY Mystique got a big role...but that doesn't mean I have to like it, right? I also know why Wolverine got the lead in Days of Future Past despite him not being the lead in the original comics storyline or the 90s cartoon's adaptation of it.
The Wolverine (2013) didn't do that well at the domestic box office. X-Men Origins Wolverine made more money but sold fewer tickets than the very first X-Men movie.
I think for a non-Deadpool X-Men movie to do well domestically (over $200 million), it has to have original cast members (including Wolverine)...X2, Last Stand, Days of Future Past, Logan (okay so it didn't have the whole team, but it did have Patrick Stewart in a major role in addition to Hugh Jackman, plus critical acclaim).
People (neither casual movie fans nor hardcore comic fans) didn't want another Dark Phoenix adaptation. I don't think that factor can be underestimated. True, domestic audiences don't seem too keen on X-Men movies (sans Deadpool) that don't have the actors from the original trilogy, but this movie will fall well short of First Class or Apocalypse's gross (it will do better overseas, just like those movies did).
My list will piss some people off, but keep in mind, even as a longtime fan of the comics and cartoon, I don't love or hate any of them.
X2: Y'know, it doesn't have much action...I don't think a superhero movie made today would have so little action, but damn it has good character moments, feels epic (helped by the only memorable score in any of the movies), and Brian Cox is a great villain.
X-Men Apocalypse: Sorry, but I like it. My only complaint is too much Mystique.
X-Men: underwhelming, but still a great intro to the X-Men universe
Deadpool 2: Very entertaining...lot of fun
Logan: can't really think of anything to say, but this is where I rank it
X-Men Days of Future Past: Too much Wolverine...70s scenes kinda boring. if it weren't for the massive undertaking of getting the actors from the original films and actually having Sentinels (both future and past ones), I would've ranked this even lower
X-Men First Class: also don't know what to say...but this is where I rank it
Deadpool: a little overrated...don't like it when origins take up the whole movie
X-Men Origins Wolverine: not as bad as people say...just underwhelming. Without Gambit, I would've ranked lower.
X-Men Last Stand: also not as bad as people say..just underwhelming. Where the hell were the Sentinels? And Gambit should've been in this one instead of Origins Wolverine.
Dark Phoenix: also not as bad as people say...but it loses so many points for adapting a story that had already been adapted when there's so many other stories that could've been done.
Wolverine (2013): OMG so boring
[quote]Unfortunately, it is a fitting end to a really weak show.[/quote]
I hate to break the bad news, but it's been renewed.
The 2002 series, as bad as it was sometimes (some of the episodes were OKAY, but none were really good), deserved renewal more than this.
Yeah..it was hinted at that Demetri may have some potential when it comes to defense, but that's about it. No way he could've beat someone who came in third in the tournament. (I have watched the whole season now).
He occasionally makes a 90's reference, but yeah it's like he was living under a rock for the whole 21st century.
Me either. I have seen all Marvel movies (not just MCU movies) since the first X-Men in the theater except for the Blade sequels and the 2015 Fantastic Four. Yep, I even saw Punisher: War Zone and the Ghost Rider sequel.
I have seen all DC movies going back to Batman Returns (was too young to have seen the first Burton Batman in the theater) in the theater except Catwoman, Constantine, and Jonah Hex. Yes, I saw Steel and Green Lantern...
This is another example of how Punisher is different on his own show than in Daredevil Season 2. The Punisher of Daredevil Season 2 would NOT have let the child pornographer or the crime boss live.
No, I haven't....I'm six episodes in. You mean to tell me I have to wait until the final scene of the SECOND season to see the character from Daredevil Season 2?
I don't object to people liking the show...if you like it, fine, but it doesn't feel like the Punisher comics from ANY era.
Yes, he spends time defending himself, but also he is proactive in seeking out criminals to kill. He's not on this show.
Honesty, it doesn't even feel like the same character as in Daredevil Season 2.