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I´d say my "favorite" is Norman Stansfield.
Then Drexl Spivey and Jackie Flannery.
He was great in every single performance, Dracula, Smiley, Sirius, Beethoven, Oswald, Zorg, Jack Grimaldi, Gordon, Rosencrantz, Shelly Runyon, Ivan and the list goes on...
Hi BM and Fairy.
I was from that board, but wasn´t posting there lately, and then... IMDb vanished into thin air.
I hope all the good people of the GO board, find this place!
Totally agree with you, tobisama, for all you have stated.
This is not the Inception-time changes in a dream kind of movie, nor the character didn´t realize he was dead in the end.
I don´t think Nolan left the end of this movie open to interpretation.
Acting:
1. Mara
2. Vikander
3. Watson
4. Lawrence
Those are great choices.
I want to add to the list:
RAN - Akira Kurosawa (Absolutely a 10/10 in my book)
The Passion of Anna - Ingmar Bergman
A movie by swedish director Thomas Alfredson: "Four Shades of Brown"
I´m not sure he would enjoy to bring his army to harass this place.
I think he needs an enemy to defeat, and the perfect target were IMDb admins. In fact, I believe he knew before us, what kind of people the powers that be at imdb were. Untrustworthy at the very least. I still feel the dagger in my back!
movielover, it´s early to say the movie boards are dead.
IMDb deleted the boards only 2 days ago!
The last movie I watched before Doomsday was "The Lobster" and I saved some comments and I was posting here in The Lobster movie board, give it some time before people continue to post after watching a movie.
Comment by user SiminR:
Before I start I apologize for my poor English.
At first sight I was thinking "what a cr*p"(and still I am thinking what a cr*p because of all the cruelty it depicted and it wasn't necessary), but I think what it was trying to say is that being strict on your belief will result in many problems. For example you should choose between 0 (being married) and 1 (being single) and you should stay loyal to your choice for rest of your life and you should condemn explicitly the other group (however you should be able to choose for example 0.4003 and change your opinion anytime and anywhere). Accordingly, I think you can see this on many scenes, for example at the beginning when the hotel reception ask for the size of the shoes and He (Colin Farrell) say 44.5 and the reception answer back you should choose between 44 or 45. Even before that, when he should choose between homosexuality or heterosexuality.
Comment by user pait_mojo:
I think it's all about extremism in relationships, that's why the setting is very dystopian. You've got the extreme married people (The hotel management) and the extreme anti social people (loners). Also there is a significant mockery about the rule and traditions for relationships/couple/married, like being not married/couple is wild and freak like "animals."
Comment by user nerowolfgal:
I watched this movie last night. I rather think it will be like "Under the Skin", a movie I hated when I first watched it and thought a terrible waste of time. However, I couldn't stop thinking about it and over time now think it was a very good movie.
Interestingly one thing that struck me in "The Lobster" was he actually made a connection with the hotel maid/Loner. They actually expressed emontion to each other. However, both were so damaged that they could not see an actual human connection when it occurred.
Comment by user b-sfacebook93:
In my opinion,
In this movie what I noticed was that emotions weren't real. A time in the future where technology improves and where humans get set back 1000 years in emotions, going back to the very basics. I felt like every actor here played as an individual, rather than a team. Everyone had their own thing to do, part to play. putting the acting more towards themselves rather than focussing on: whats my relation with this other character'.
This is what I would call an emotional rollercoaster type of movie. You want this or that to happen, but it doesn't. Constantly teasing you with idea's but in the end, pushing you back to reality and showing you what our Collin's mission was all about.
The knowledge I gain from this, it showed me that you can't force or fake love. You can't be anyone different, be you! Choose a partner not because of the similarities, but for the beauty of differences!
Comment by user hiperaberus:
I will tell how I see it in a nutshell: it is about conformity. Even when you rebel, when you end up in the rebellious human group that will also have rules limiting you. The cherry on the cake: even love is a human construction based on rules. Did he conform by the end? The non-conformists became non-human.
Comment by user Sanitylapse:
[quote]Although I wonder if it would have been simpler just to tell the people they would be executed if they didn't find a partner? It seemed the animal thing was largely about scaremongering them into forcing companionship (hence the whole, you've earned a few extra days, etc). Telling them they'd become an animal might just give them an element of 'ah well, I won't bother with the love thing'. Colin Farrell's character, for example, chose a lobster because of the benefits he saw in living as a lobster for a while, suggesting that he was at least anticipating it from a practical standpoint.[/quote]
The animal transformation may have represented both death and an afterlife concept. If the characters felt they would straight up be killed, they may have been more afraid and actively rebelled. But them feeling that they could turn into any animal of their choosing if they failed lessened the blow, and they could accept that even if it was less desirable than staying human.
You could say that the other side to this was the "hell" version, where if they break the rules, they are turned into the animal that no one wants to be.
Comment by user e_nineteen:
[quote] Also something that came to my mind is, we never actually SEE anyone become an animal. We see the girl with beautiful hair as a horse but how do we know she is the horse? How do we know people aren't just killed in the transformation room and animals are brought out?"[/quote]
That's a very interesting thought I didn't think of when watching the movie. I guess I just assumed the animal transformation scenes would be too confusing and hard to depict for a low-budget movie. (No CGI involved...)
Although I wonder if it would have been simpler just to tell the people they would be executed if they didn't find a partner? It seemed the animal thing was largely about scaremongering them into forcing companionship (hence the whole, you've earned a few extra days, etc). Telling them they'd become an animal might just give them an element of 'ah well, I won't bother with the love thing'. Colin Farrell's character, for example, chose a lobster because of the benefits he saw in living as a lobster for a while, suggesting that he was at least anticipating it from a practical standpoint.
I watched this movie last week, and saved some comments, because of IMDb deleting all the threads.
This comment is from user "TheMadHattress":
To be honest I don't think anyone understands the movie, including the cast. Apparently Yorgos the director didn't like answering the actors questions about the movie. As such I think it's a film where you just take it for what it is. Maybe you find some sense in it or maybe you don't.
I took it to be a movie about authority/herd mentality of humans and also about our perceptions of normal. Everyone in this movie behaves as though they are on the autism spectrum and therefore that is the films 'normal.'
Also something that came to my mind is, we never actually SEE anyone become an animal. We see the girl with beautiful hair as a horse but how do we know she is the horse? How do we know people aren't just killed in the transformation room and animals are brought out?
I took it to be saying something about the nature of fear and how often we are afraid of things that aren't true or real, but those fears keep us in place.
I second this.
I also think these two boards may fill the IMDb hole. IMDB2 complements MovieChat and vice versa.