What is LGBTQ about this?
I haven't seen it, nor do I plan to, so you can spoil away. Is all the talk about LGBTQ being shoved down the audience's throat warranted?
shareI haven't seen it, nor do I plan to, so you can spoil away. Is all the talk about LGBTQ being shoved down the audience's throat warranted?
shareThere is a gay character with a husband and son, but it is not shoved down anyone's throat.
shareIs it a prominent character?
shareYes, one of the Eternals, Phastos played by Brian Tyree Henry.
shareThen I can see why so many homophobes don't like that. Unless they changed the character to make it more woke.
shareThey changed the character from the comics but it’s not a major part of the movie. The husband gets maybe two minutes of screentime.
shareSeems subtle enough. Doesn't sound too forced.
shareThey lay it on pretty thick. The gay fat black dude has a modern gay, child raising/corrupting relationship, even though he is apparently an ancient being and not human in the first place (not a spoiler it's in the trailer).
This dude is also personally responsible for histories greatest acts of genocide.
Then they make sure we all know how much he loves his black play toy and they purposely give them OTT intimacy and close up kissing on screen, which made half the all-female audience in the cinema I was in sick, judging by the comments and gagging.
Speaking of gagging I 100% guarantee there is a deleted scene where he gets down on his knees and sucks him off before they leave for the final act.
Many countries don't condone the LGBTQ community, so that is also going to hurt the box office.
Definitely. Especially in China.
shareIt also doesn't help that the one Black male character in here has to be Gay. Anyone who is familiar with the Black community know that they tend to be homophobic and despise Hollywood because it's like some secret initiation that if you are a Black male and want to break into Hollywood, you have to agree to either play a Gay character, wear a dress, play a criminal or a slave some time in your career. Heck, of out of all of the roles Denzel Washington has done, it took him playing a bad guy for him to win Best Actor at the Oscars. So they probably lost a lot of the Black male audience as well. They should have just made a lesbian couple instead because they tend to be more accepted by the majority.
shareI wish this was being released in theatre. I wanted to see this flop.
shareDave Chapelle spoke about this in one of his specials. How hollywood takes every major black actor and has them do a movie or a scene where they dress as a woman or have to act effeminate.
shareThe actors i talked to (granted, not A-listers) said they loved playing the bad guys. To them it was "real acting" and not just playing yourself.
share>> it is not shoved down anyone's throat <<
If by "not shoved down anyone's throat" you mean "They've only been marketing it nonstop as THE defining trait of the character, patting themselves on the back for doing it in every discussion of the film, and highlighting the gay kiss as a "landmark" moment for the MCU every chance they get... then yeah, they didn't shove it down anyone's throat.
Barely anything. A character, who never mentions being gay, and says and does nothing about being gay, is shown giving his husband, who we didn't even know was his husband/romantic partner before the scene, a quick peck on the mouth before leaving on a potentially deadly mission.
shareThat sounds kind of gross actually
shareHe almsot gets down on his knees basically. The entire frame is structured around them pashing, it's not quick at all.
Laughable since its clearly designed to be one of those 'groundbreaking' shots but noone on the woke side cares, instead they are trying to minimise it, just like you are 😀
I'm certainly not on the woke side. I remember it as being a quick peck, and more casual than you'd expect from someone possibly kissing his husband for the last time.
shareIt was maybe a three-second kiss, not even open mouth. I'm as heterosexual as The Fonz and I thought, "this is what everyone is all up in arms about? Stupid."
On the other hand, it really meant nothing to the plot, doesn't do anything for the character, and just seemed shoehorned in. But whatever - it was no big deal at all.
Yeah it's funny that wokies are trying to downplay it instead of applaud it because of how shoehorned and stupid it is.
share"who we didn't even know was his husband/romantic partner before the scene"
Exactly.
I saw it today and was wondering throughout that scene who that other guy was and when the to kissed i thought "Oh his husband" then I went on an continued to enjoy the film.
Well id say that extended gay kissing sequence counts as "does something about being gay".
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I'm all for more inclusiveness in films but not for clumsily inserting characters into films - that's just bad storytelling.
I hate that cringing feeling when you see this. And not just when introducing LGBT characters either. For example the "romance" between Padme and Anakin in Star Wars was atrocious, one of the worst ever depicted IMHO.
For an example of an LGBT character (in this case pansexual) done RIGHT, see Deadpool. The way Deadpool constantly hits on Colossus totally fits with the character and is introduced organically in the film.
I just don't get why people care so much one way or another. Wow, two dudes kissed in a movie in 2021. Big deal. Every other movie has gay couples now. It's not groundbreaking anymore. We don't need big headlines every time it happens.
shareI think people ant it done organically and not in a way where they're going out of their way to show it.
shareI just don't get why people care so much one way or another.