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Woke show shoots itself in the foot by making women in charge of Starfleet

posted 5 years ago by alpha68omega (21)
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I'm only calling it woke because Patrick Stewart himself says this show is about Brexit and Trump, but it's kind of funny how they have Starfleet now a xenophobic, racist and isolationist institution with stunning and brave women now in charge. So does this inadvertently imply that Starfleet was benevolent and good back when men when in charge of it and women took over and ruined it. It's like the creative team hasn't fully fleshed out how to fit their political agenda into this.

[–] Kowalski (75745) 5 years ago

LMAO

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14437) 5 years ago

I don't think women are entirely in charge of Starfleet. All we see is a mean old bitch who yells at Picard, and a traitorous Vulcan (who might be a Romulan agent with cosmetic surgery) involved. Starfleet has many, many people in charge. We just never got to see any of the male admirals. It should also be mentioned that the people in charge of Starfleet were idiots, because they allowed a bunch of Romulans to sneak in under their very noses and take over key jobs. That's pretty bad when the leadership is so stupid and corrupt that they can't even see the very destruction going on within their own ranks.

[–] Satan2016 (25539) 5 years ago

Remember the TNG episode where Riker eats worms? "After Captain Picard receives a dark warning from an old friend, the Enterprise-D returns to Earth to stop an alien invasion from taking over Starfleet Command."

Plenty of episodes in every series about Starfleet corruption and incompetence. The changeling infiltration in DS9.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14437) 5 years ago

I guess after hearing that, it wouldn't be that far-fetched for Starfleet to turn into what it became on this show.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

"So does this inadvertently imply that Starfleet was benevolent and good back when men when in charge of it and women took over and ruined it."
What about the female Admirals in the time of TNG, like Nechayev and that black woman (in whatever episode I can't remember)? They didn't erode the Federation at all, and it showed progressivism even back in the early 1990s, too!

[–] bond998 (1213) 5 years ago

The producers must not have high opinion of women. If they think that all women in power are racist.

[–] ATG6 (3000) 5 years ago

plenty of male Starfleet captains and admirals became villains in the various Star Trek movies and TV episodes.

[–] Volley (3433) 5 years ago

I don't appreciate the crazy Starfleet woman yelling at Picard, and then swearing at him too. That is not the United Federation of Planets or Starfleet that we see in ENT/TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY.

Captain Picard's monologue at the beginning of Nemesis, which cites some of his accomplishments is the least of all reasons that Starfleet Admiral, or whatever she is, has no right to call out Picard like that.

First episode was great, second episode is like--did they hire the idiot Discovery writers to do the rest of the series or what the heck?

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Don't worry ... in the final episode it will be revealed that Picard has been in vegetative state the whole time dreaming this crock.

[–] maximmm (3343) 5 years ago

I'd argue that in this instance, women are portrayed as being the villains - namely the admiral/reporter who were attacking Picard for doing the 'right thing'.

It's actually a pretty unwoke thing to do - to portray women as not necessarily being ideal leaders purely because of their gender.

[–] alpha68omega (21) 5 years ago

I was just thinking how the creative control team, like Patrick Stewart for one, were undermining their own self-proclaimed woke narrative by showcasing women in positions of power, but then making that power corrupt and rotten. They have a woman admiral who is probably the highest ranking military leader in Starfleet and she's totally out of control with shouting F-bombs at old man Picard about his hubris. He did save the Earth many times. Or the Vulcan woman who is probably the head of intelligence at Starfleet talking about killing Picard and others.

[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

It doesn't matter. It's still men's fault XD