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sony should have never have a deal with disney/marvel


sony are idiots. spider man alone is far more popular then all the other MCU characters and sony could have had a spider man focused cinematic universe. and then if those vilians movies existed and were tied up to their spiderman films they would make much more money.

basically what they should have done is either rebooting spiderman or continuing with garfield.

garfield is far better then garbage tom holland.

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I agree. They should have introduced new characters through spider-man movies, and have separate movies focus on them after that.

This looks to be another movie has nothing to do with spider-man.

For people not knowing much this looks more like a GoT related movie.

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they still have the rights to other versions of spiderman and the idiots making a movie about madam motherfackin web. lol

i mean. why not spider man noir? or a miles morales movie?

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Do they have the rights to some dope characters? Yes. But the execs who are in charge have absolutely no idea what to do with them.

Honestly, in my opinion, they should just scrap the live action movies & just focus on animated offerings.

Just use Spiderverse as a jumping off point. And do like a kinda shared universe with THOSE Spidey characters.

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Question is, what's holding them back from bringing back Garfield or Maguire, or even a new actor, and continue with the Venom-verse parallel to the MCU?

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Sony's Marvel movie producer are at least since Amazing Spider-Man 2 creatively bankrupt. It is amazing how crappy their productions are, you wonder how they still get movies greenlit. No one is forcing them to make right now Morbius, Madame Web etc. They are not in the same situation as they were during the Spider-Man reboots or the Fantastic 4 reboots.
No one is forcing them to do the crap and still they signed a stupid contract. MCU Spider-Man 3 showed that people are willing to accept parallel Spider-Mans, the comics also have. So why not giving Garfield some work and same time, introduce a live action Miles Morales.

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All good questions.

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Venom was a box office success largely due to the star power of Tom Hardy and the trailers that promoted the film as a dark and gritty take on one of Spider-Man’s most iconic villains.

For some reason though Sony were deluded enough into thinking they could replicate that box office success with characters such as Morbius and Madame Web. It’s laughable and I have no idea how those two films ended up being greenlit.

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But Venom 2 was quite stable in the Box Office!?! Domestically it was stable, and world wide it still doubled the numbers, while 1 gained 3x. I would say, that is damned stable for a movie only having success by its star power. This was maybe still the case for Venom 1, but since then he lost a lot of star power. No, the people really seems to like the movies. I don't know why, but Venom 1 has the same issues Sony Marvel always have when the director wasn't stronger as the producers. I don't understand the success of Venom, but the Sony Marvel manager too.

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always thought it was a bonehead decision. so ASM 2 under-performed a bit. big deal. spider-man is always gonna sell. retool and throw it out again. we didn't even get the "real" spider-man in the MCU anyhow, what even was the point? without spider-man, all the characters have to be tweaked to point of making no sense. none of these movies will ever be good because of it.

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thats the stupidity of hollywood, any movie that fails at the box office even if its good is discontinued, this is some bullshit

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Thankfully for fans, they did. Instead of another terrible Sony film with Garfield, we've been given the three best Spider-Man films ever, with more on the way. With Venom, Carnage, Morbious, Madame Web, and two Spider-Man films all being complete garbage, there's no reason to expect they will ever get the franchise right. Best to keep Spidey in the MCU so we can continue to see great Spider-Man films.

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I agree.... Sony being Japanese, should prolly be pushing out anime and japanese samurai type stuff. Lots of anime can be remade into live action films - I've certainly seen many series which were very mature and easy to adapt - but these days..... something is really wrong with big corps and holyweird studios. So much brilliant material released over the last 100 years, but they keep pumping out remake after remake, reboot after reboot - very, very odd. And no - I don't buy the 'they just want to be safe' BS.
I am equally baffled by the dodgy writing in most films/series these days....

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