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Will this be historically accurate?


Both French-Dahomey wars resulted in a French victory. In both wars the Africans lost thousands while the French lost less than 100. Are they really making a movie about such crushing defeats or are they going to put their own little twist on the truth?

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The Dahomey were also heavily involved in the slave trades and would take over neighboring tribes. I doubt there will be much accuracy but “historical” films rarely are accurate.

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Well, here's the kick: if they make it accurate they might be branded as racists for portraying blacks in such negative images.

Most likely they will paint them as noble and brave victims and the French as evil, filthy colonialists, a la Prey.

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Yesterday's imdb review:
This was not even close to being historically accurate. That's ok. https://www.imdb.com/review/rw8535935/?ref_=tt_urv

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Here is the summery from it's front page on IMDb:

A historical epic that is based in alternate history of The Kingdom of Dahomey, one of the most powerful states of Africa in the 18th and 19th centuries.

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alternate history

So made up then.

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Instead of pretending to be "based on a true story" like some other historical films? :)

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There is no alternate history there is history.

So it is made up. So fiction

based on a true story

Is just that based on the true story but things change.

A historical epic that is based in alternate history

To have to use the words alternate means made up and completely fabricated which this film will be. At no point will they be made out to be the bad guys in whihc they are.

Don't have to see the movie to know that.

Still won't answer me on the other thread will you

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If they are depicted as part of the slave trade, then they are bad. Or do you think there is some sort of redeeming quality in being a slaver?

It seems you will be content with making up your own review that is based upon anything other than watching the film yourself.

"Alternate history" is a form of speculative fiction in which some historical events occur.

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If they are depicted as part of the slave trade, then they are bad. Or do you think there is some sort of redeeming quality in being a slaver?

Nice way to try and spin it onto me. I'll give you kudos for trying at least. Again they were the instigators. They are not heros they killed and captured people for themselves and wealth. Go read a history book.

The fact Viola Davis are calling them superheros should tell you everything about what direction this movie will be.

Alternate history means exactly that. Alternate. Not the truth. Made up. Fiction.

Call it what you will but it isn't history.

"With its epic tale of the solidarity that grows between the Dahomey as they battle against enslavement and exploitation, The Woman King illustrates, with stunning grace, how sisterhood can be more than dangerous and powerful."

That is a review as well. As they battle against enslavement. Against. So its completely false then.

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You're preaching to the choir here. A alternate history of a slaver. You're the only one using the word hero. You're looking for a fight in your last post where they isn't one.

When two groups of people battle each other with the losers ending up dead or slaves, you can bet that both sides are fighting against being enslaved themselves. Is that reviewer actually claiming that the Dahmey are trying to end slavery?

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You're the only one using the word hero

Nope. Viola Davis did. Superheros was the word she used.

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"If they are depicted as part of the slave trade, then they are bad."

Wanna bet that they will be depicted as fighting slavery and the evil whites?

I can bet you haven't even seen the trailer. It's in the first seconds :P

"The fictional white Portuguese-speaking slave trader Santo Ferreira is portrayed as an enemy to Ghezo. According to "History vs. Hollywood", the character was "possibly loosely inspired" by Francisco Félix de Sousa, a Brazilian slave trader who in actuality helped Ghezo gain power."

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If they are depicted as fighting slavery, it will probably be fighting against their own enslavement. But I'm willing to wait to see the film prior to declaring what actually happens.

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If they are depicted as fighting slavery, it will probably be fighting against their own enslavement.

So an alternate made up history then. Fiction. Didn't happen. So lying basically

How many times does it need saying. They were the instigators for hundreds of years. They attacked, kidnapped and sold slaves. The sacrificed close to 500 people a year. Go look it up. These were not defending anything.

For the hard of hearing like yourself "They were the instigators"

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So you're saying the Dahomey went willingly into slavery because they were not fighting against being enslaved themselves? You're not making any sense at all.

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Oh you really that stupid or just trolling. You can't be that stupid

So you're saying the Dahomey went willingly into slavery

Quote me where I said that please.

How can they fighting against being enslaved themselves when they were the instigators. Are you genuinly thick. YOu have to be or like I said you are trolling.

There entire countries wealth was based off slavery.

They were the slavers. No one else. Them and them alone. The ones they didn't sell they sacrificed. I have no idea how to make it any simpler than that.

If you reply with another stupid coment then you are going on ignore. You can't be this much of an idiot.

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The famous Randb “so you’re saying….” argument. He loves the straw-man where he recasts what the other person wrote so he can call it nonsense.

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I've noticed

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A person can fight to resist being put into slavery. I did not claim the Dahomey were trying to end it in Africa.

The Dahomey sold or traded their slaves to others for goods like weapons. Those slaves made it to other countries when traded to others. This means there were other slavers beside the Dahomey.

I okay if you ignore me, you coward.

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A person can fight to resist being put into slavery

But these were not. They were the instigators for the 4th or 5th time. Learn to read or do you struggle and I will dumb it down for you.

I did not claim the Dahomey were trying to end it in Africa.

Quote me were I said that

The Dahomey sold or traded their slaves to others for goods like weapons. Those slaves made it to other countries when traded to others. This means there were other slavers beside the Dahomey.

No it doesn't. It means there were buyers for the slaves they captured and sold.

I okay if you ignore me, you coward.

Better than being thick like you

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If I'm going to quote you, then I will use the quote function or say that you said it. Stop being a snowflake.

Yes, the Dahomey were slavers, who is saying they were not?

When I said the Dahomey sold slaves, it means something different than when you say they sold slaves? What part of "they sold slaves" do you not understand?

So are you saying the people the Dahomey sold slaves to were not part of the slave trade?

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If I'm going to quote you, then I will use the quote function or say that you said it. Stop being a snowflake.

You don't do it because you can't. You can't quote me what I didn't say. I'm noticing more insults. Have you ran of excuses and twisted words.

Yes, the Dahomey were slavers, who is saying they were not?

Another diversion. Who said they didn't. YOu have literally done it on every post and other user kindly pointed it out to me. So it seems like a common tactic you use. No debating skills have we.

So are you saying the people the Dahomey sold slaves to were not part of the slave trade?

Once again another diversion and once again quote me where I said that.

Still waiting on that answer.

Nope i'm not saying those things. You are because you can't debate or answer anything. Sad really

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So made up then.

What a surprise 😉😉😉😉

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Yea in this version it’s blacks selling whites into slavery not blacks selling blacks

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I don't think you would be saying that if you got a look at the cast list.

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Give it a hundred years or two. That'll be true eventually here in the US.

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A historical epic that is based in WE WUZ KANGZ of The Kingdom of Dahomey, one of the most powerful states of Africa in the 18th and 19th centuries. < - Fixed

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What'd you fix?? Because it still says exactly what I quoted in my comment. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

https://i.ibb.co/f2G31HQ/Screenshot-20220914-212140.png

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt8093700

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This movie will accurately portray the bravery, honor and courage of the Dahomey tribe against the white invaders looking to enslave African tribes

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As your college history teacher taught you!!! Smart person (I don't want to assume the gender!)

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