I see frightened white bigots trolling desperately
Sad and pathetic, but very predictable.
About true events which they can't change. Lol
Hybrid66 attempting to gaslight.
Fuck off you prick.
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"About true events which they can't change."
except this movie does not depict true events.
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/09/new-movie-honors-enslavers.html
I see a frightened SJW trolling desperately with false accusations to hide the fact that this may be a crappy movie.
Sad and pathetic, but very predictable.
This movie is politically motivated pseudo history. Complaining about it is 100% justified.
shareThe Woman King (2022) (movie): A historical epic that is based in alternate history of The Kingdom of Dahomey, one of the most powerful states of Africa in the 18th and 19th centuries.
BITCHING AND WHINING IS NEVER JUSTIFIED...GROW UP.
99% of people don't know that it's alternate history and will just take it as history and it's designed this way. Political propaganda.
share99% OF PEOPLE CAN READ AND/OR KNOW MOVIES ARE NOT REAL...I GUESS YOU FALL IN THAT SPECIAL 1%...WHAT ABOUT BLACK ACTORS IS IT THAT SCARES YOU SO MUCH ANYWAY?
shareNot they don't. This movie will be taken as history by most young uneducated African Americans and by liberal Whites.
shareLMAO...EVEN IF THAT WERE THE CASE...SO FUCKING WHAT?🤣
shareSo fucking what? Imagine if the shoe was on the other side of the foot. Imagine a movie about Americans slavery that is historically inaccurate and portrays Whites positively. Of course there shouldn't be any problem because the movie is labelled as alternate history.
shareLMAO...YOU REALLY HAVE SOME PROBLEMS...MAYBE THE INTERNET ISN'T A GOOD IDEA FOR YOU?
shareIgnoring the argument because you don't have comeback? OK.
shareTHAT MOVIE IS CALLED WHITE MAN'S BURDEN...IT'S A GOOD FLICK...YOU WOULDN'T LIKE IT...SOME OF THE ACTORS ARE THOSE SCARY BLACK PEOPLE.
shareI don't mind Black people in movies. I mind historically inaccurate movies that demonize White people. Everyone should.
shareALL MOVIES ARE HISTORICALLY INACCURATE...EVERYONE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF THE WHITE MAN?...THAT'S STUPID...YOUR PROBLEM IS YOU SEE IN BLACK & WHITE...YOU ARE CLEARLY OUTDATED AND DARE I SAY...RACIST.
shareI have come across a good deal of stupid statements online, but you sir take the cake. All movies are historically inaccurate? Then why don't all movies have a tag that they're based on alternate history like this one?
I'm not saying everyone should worry about the plight of the White man, I'm just expressing diatisfaction at the demonization of Whites through historically inaccuracy from movies like this one. Hollywood is lately behaving like everyone should worry about the plight of Blacks as it portrays them as relentless victims which isn't true.
I think they figured people with a brain could determine that for themselves...
shareTell that to 60% of African American students who can't locate Africa on a map and just believe everything they want to believe like how the Vikings were Black.
shareYour anecdotal comment is noted and dismissed.
sharehttps://i.postimg.cc/YCd9DrQh/1462476150737.png
shareYou lost the right to post links when you cited Nazi white supremacist propaganda websites as truth.
shareI never posted such websites.
shareThat is a bold faced lie. You believe white people to be superior to blacks.
shareTotal lie. Show me a Nazi website that I posted.
sharehttp://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/city.htm
shareThat is not a Nazi website. In fact it's apolitical.
shareNo it is a white supremacist website. So anyway I noticed you stop replying to my other thread. So reply to that or else it will tally up to me 35 and you 0.
shareWhat? A White supremacists website? Because it has IQ scores for Baltimore that you don't like and have never been able to disprove.
Race and IQ is a mainstream scientific fact. Even the notoriously left wing Wikipedia can't deny it. There is nothing unrealistic about lower class people having 10 point lower IQs than the overall ethnic average. For Whites the differential is even higher at 14 points.
Those stars were not proven at all. Me 35 you 0.
shareThey are realistic given what we know so there's no reason to doubt them. You failed to disprove them no matter how much you tried.
And even if the data is incorrect, it's still isn't a Nazi website so you owe me a retraction and apology.
No it's been proven incorrect. So there is plenty reason to doubt it. Your intelligence is not limited to your ethnicity that's been debunked many times over. Me 35 you 0.
shareLOL totally wrong. This is what leftist Wikipedia says about it:
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In the US, individuals identifying themselves as Asian generally tend to score higher on IQ tests than Caucasians, who
end to score higher than Hispanics, who tend to score higher than African Americans.
Nevertheless, greater variation in IQ scores exists within each ethnic group than between them. A 2001 meta-analysis of the results of 6.246.729 participants tested for cognitive ability or aptitude found a difference in average scores between black people and white people of 1.1 standard deviations. Consistent results were found for college and university application tests such as the N = 2.4 million) and Graduate Record Examination (N = 2.3 million), as well as for tests of job applicants in corporate settings (N = 0.5 million) and in the military (N = 0.4 million).
Lol nope. You don't get to cite Wikipedia now either. You have dismissed them in the past many times. You conveniently cherry pick data when it suits your narrative. Just for that now it's me 36 you 0. Stats without context mean nothing.
shareLOL so you think leftist Wikipedia is biased IN FAVOUR of race and IQ???
I'm citing your left wing source you moron.
Ok so then Wikipedia is gospel truth then? You don't get to pick and choose. Is it true or not? Also I am not some raging liberal but I don't boot lick like you do either.
shareIt's a known fact Wikipeda has a left wing bias. So when even Wikipedia admits such a controversial topic as race and IQ it's probably because there's so much undeniable evidence for it. Besides, I didn't cite the whole article (which is probably biased) I cited only a few sentences which have sources with millions of sample sizes.
You can't say an online edit encyclopaedia is always correct and always incorrect. This is absurd logic.
Exactly you cherry picked lol. That is what you do. You realize stats without context mean nothing right? Can you analyze an NBA game just by looking at a stat sheet? Can it give you some insight yep but you can't fully analyze unless you actually watch the game.
shareI quoted studies that have millions in sample size, they just happen to be linked on Wikipedia. I do not endorse the entire Wikipedia article. Wikipedia articles are written in biased way, but the SOURCES on them are mostly legit.
There you go with this stats nonsense. Nobody has any idea what you're saying.
So you cherry pick and wikipedia has credibility so long as it agrees with what you think. Not how it works either it is true or it is not.
Answer the question can you analyze an NBA game without watching the game and only looking at stats?
Wikipedia articles are written in a biased way, but the sources are mostly legit. I quoted sources, not Wikipedia.
shareYou did not answer my question.
shareIntelligence is not a basketball game. If you want to look at someone's intelligence, you look at his IQ score or his life success. In both those things Blacks do worse than Whites.
shareSee you don't answer the question because you know it dismantles your point.
shareWhat question?
shareCan you fully analyze an nba game only by looking at stats yes or no?
shareYes you can do a pretty good job of it.
shareWhich shows you know nothing. You can't analyze an nba game by only looking at stats. It gives you incite but it does not tell the entire story. What type of defense was run? What type of offense was run? Was the shot guarded or not? Was the shot open? None of that is covered on a stat sheet genius. Good luck being an analyst only looking at stats.
shareBLACK,WHITE,BLACK,WHITE,BLACK,WHITE,BLACK,WHITE...YOU ARE CLEARLY A DINOSAUR.
shareShould we make alternative history movies about Hitler being a good guy?
shareYOU CAN...I WOULDN'T THOUGH.
shareWhy? What's the difference?
Transatlantic and Muslim slave trades had close to 40 million Africans sold and, I'd say, at least an equal number died in raids, on the trail on in the pens awaiting foreign buyers.
It's easily comparable to the Holocaust.
Glorifying a culture of professional slavers is as disgusting as making a movie about good Nazis.
I SAID YOU CAN...I DO NOT HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THAT FILM THOUGH.
OH...A LITTLE TIP FOR YOU...ANYTIME YOU FIND YOURSELF MAKING COMPARISONS TO THE HOLOCAUST...THAT IS THE SIGN THAT YOU ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF AN ISSUE AND ALSO A FUCKING MORON.🙂
No they are not covered. Okay if that is the case I want the defensive play run in the 3rd quarter of game 6 of the NBA finals of 1997. Since it is a stat go ahead and give it to me. Go look it up and feed it to me. I will wait.
shareThey can be covered.
shareCan or are they? You are contradicting yourself now. First you said they were covered now you are saying they can be lol. If they are not it leads to my point. You can't analyze a game in depth fully without watching the game. Which showcases stats do not tell the entire story. Lots of things factor in. It is the same thing for life.
shareSince you are giving this analogy in the context of what stats show about race and intelligence, the fact that they can be covered is a valid point.
shareI am because stats mean nothing without context. Is it harder to hit a shot when open or while being guarded? Of course while being open is easier. When you make a shot from inside the 3 it does not matter how difficult it is it will still count as 2 points. The reason why Jordan is considered a cut above the rest is he can make shots while guarded with the pressure on. If another player scores 30 points while open the entire time is that as impressive as a tough 30 points? Nope it is not but on the stat sheet it still counts as 30 regardless. Lots of things factor into crime not just race. Poverty breeds crime regardless of race. You like to cite stats without giving context.
share1. I couldn't give a rats ass about basketball. The point is stats can cover most things that are important.
2. Blacks commit more crime even if you control for SES (socio economic status)
Besides, we were talking about IQ, not crime.
Lol but you can't analyze the game only by looking at stats. Your concession is noted. First you said things were covered and I proved you wrong. You are not very bright are you?
Not true. Only in your racist mind is that true. Coming from the same guy who said no such thing as whitewashing and no such thing as white privilege. You are ignorant get educated.
You can if you're looking at the right stats
Yes, it's true. https://postimg.cc/gallery/pT8dGfs
Nope you can't if what you said is true go ahead tell me the defensive play in the 3rd quarter of the 1997 NBA finals. I will wait.
You lost the right to cite links after you claimed that black people were inferior to white people. Also after you cited white supremacist websites. I will not be clicking any links you give period. You lost that right. You also claimed whitewashing does not exist and white privilege never existed.
Just because they don't hold certain stats doesn't mean those stats cannot be recorded.
I never lost any rights. Who are you to make up the rules? You are just giving excuses not to open proof of my claims and be owned by it. And I never said Blacks are inferior to Whites, I said there are differences in specific traits. Overall it's a mixed bag. I also never linked to any Nazi sites.
Changing race from Black to White is and has never been done for ideological reasons, but for practical ones. My point stands.
Yes, White privilege is not a thing. Black privilege is. I can defeat anyone in a debate on this subject.
Then why did you claim they were recorded originally? You realized I knew what I was talking about and then backed off your original claim, The point is they are not. Which means you can not analyze an NBA game fully just by only looking at a stat sheet.
Yes you did lose those rights with me. No link from you will I click. You danced around it but that is basically what you said. I have more respect for someone who is upfront about their racism rather than be sneaky about it.
Also not true. What if they filmed a movie in Africa and there were mostly black people yet they chose a white person for the role? Depends on where you are filming. In that case it would be more practical to hire a black person if you are filming in countries where there are mostly black people. Wrong again.
So white privilege never existed? Want to double down on that? Oh I would love to debate you on this, mopping the floor with you on this topic will be far too easy honestly.
Many are recorded. The fact all are not is irrelevant to your analogy. The point is they can be.
Feel free not to click to my links. I'm replying not because of you but for the viewers. They will see you ignored my points. That much better for me.
Wrong. Practical includes finances. Movies are in the business of making money. Big named actors are more likely to make the movie money and most big name actors are White.
I said it doesn't exist now. Why are you putting words in my mouth?
Then go ahead and tell me the thing I asked for. Does not matter if they can be. The point is they are not. Therefore you can't analyze an NBA game by only looking at a stat sheet.
I feel no shame in ignoring white supremacist propaganda.
First of all there are more white actors. Second of all of the top 10 actors gross in leading roles 3/10 of them are not white. Vin Diesel, Zoe Saldana, and Samuel L Jackson are in the top 10 highest grossing actors in lead roles. Now imagine if they had the dominion white people had? I am afraid it would definitely be in their favor if they had as many white actors sheesh. Also your point is invalid because sometimes it is not always about getting the biggest actor. Big actors are more expensive, they do bring in money but if you factor in profit percentage then the Blair witch is one of the most profitable films ever made. No big actors in that film. Same goes for a movie such as Paranormal activity. You can achieve this great levels of profit with no name actors which means if you are filming in Africa there would be more black people which would make it more convenient than casting whites. If the end goal is money then making films like Blair Witch is your best bet. Thanks for strengthening my point for me lol.
You said it never existed before. I am quoting you genius.
We are not discussing basketball, we are discussing weather racial stats can show us important things about race.
It's not any kind of propaganda. I linked to studies by Federal Reserve and Washington Post.
How the hell does your long ass post dispute my claim that Black to White race swapping is not about practical reasons rather than ideological ones. Can you summarize the point please?
Your concession is noted. Stats without context in anything mean nothing and do not tell the entire story.
It is propaganda. Which is why you lost the rights to cite links. I am revoking that right from you in my case. No link from you will I click.
Simple are there more white or black people in Africa?
No concession. Stats can tell you almost anything providing you record them. If you think race stats don't tell the whole story, point out which ones. You already did with race and crime, where I responded by posting sources and you simply ignored them with a BS excuse not to click at them.
How is Washington Post and Federal reserve study propaganda? Tell me honestly, if someone you agreed with posted a study with these sites as sources, would you dispute them? Here are the studies again which show Blacks commit more crime even controlling for income:
https://archive.ph/CQWo1
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/294733608_Race_Wealth_and_Incarceration_Results_from_the_National_Longitudinal_Survey_of_Youth
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2016/03/max_revised.png
Name me a single movie where Black character was switched to White for ideological reasons. Because a popular right wing ideology was sweeping Hollywood to which the execs prescribed to. I'm waiting.
Nope stats do not tell the entire story. Only someone who is as foolish as you thinks so. I proved my point about the nba so much so you contradicted yourself. You claimed every stat was recorded then backtracked. Not every single stat in life is recorded. Boom that dismantles your claim right there. Which means it does not tell the entire story.
Your links are dismissed. I told you, you lost the right to cite information.
So it is okay to race swap so long as it is not ideological is that what you are telling me?
Tell me what stats do not say about race? Your caveat that poverty is reason for the racial disparity has been debunked by me. You didn't even attempt to dispute the data I sourced, but simply made up an excise not to look at them.
OK you're like a child, shutting his eyes and saying "la la la la".
Yes there's nothing wrong with race swapping if it's done for practical reasons. If Chinese made a remake of Billy the Kid and cast all Chinese cast (because the movie's main market is Chinese) then I would not be bothered by it at all.
I did not say poverty was the only thing that drives up crime. I did not even look at those links nor will I.
Nope I just revoked your right to cite links. You lost that right.
Good then if they film a movie in Africa there should mostly be black actors in the film since it would be more convenient and practical. If you are trying to emulate a certain comic book then you should make the character appear as they do in that comic correct?
And you haven't given any other examples. If you had them you would tell them.
OK so you concede ignoring valid sources (Washington Post, Federal Reserve...) just because they are linked by a person you do not like?
I do not mind movies set in Africa being 100% Black. However if they do have many Whites in them that does not mean ideology was the driving force. It just means the movie wants to make money and Western (still mostly White) market is the largest one.
Oppression drives up crime also. Tell me what date did white privilege end? I want a specific date.
Nope I am ignoring them for the reasons I told you. I am not commenting on this thing any further. Anything about your cited links will be ignored. As I said I am revoking that right from you.
Nope also not true. The blair witch proved you can make a profitable film without big name actors. Try again. So if they make a movie in Africa it would practical and logical to only have black people in the film.
By what mechanism exactly. Jews and Asians were oppressed and didn't have elevated crime rates. Also how are Black people TODAY oppressed?
Whites never had a higher living standard due to living with Blacks or the standard they would have had had Blacks never been brought. Whites never gained anything by exploiting others. You answer my question. Can you have White privilege in an all White society? And if not isn't creating an all White society the best way of destroying White privilege?
OK thanks for for admitting you ignoring valid sources. Point goes to me.
Just because there are a few example of movies with no names that made lot of money doesn't mean that the general rule of more big name actors translating to more profit doesn't hold. Exceptions don't disprove a rule.
Which is why I also stated that it is a combination of things which lead to spikes in crime. Poverty, oppression, upbringing etc. You just want to make a blanket statement and say it is race when in reality it is a lot of things which determine crime. Most mass shooters are white, why do I never hear you point out this fact?
Whites never gained anything by exploiting others? LMAO! Tell that to the native Americans. They after all did steal the this land. In an all white society you can not have white privilege but you can have wealth privilege, which obviously exist today. Having an all white society will never happen. As much as it is in your white supremacist fantasy it will never happen. Once it does get back to me.
None of your sources were valid. Another point for me scoreboard me 37 you 0.
Nope if we are talking most profit Paranormal activity and Blair Witch blow any movie away when it comes to profit percentage. Not only is it an exception it is a better profit percentage. You lost another round. You know nothing about cinema bud. You also never answered my question if you are trying to emulate a specific comic is it okay for cast an actor which mirror's that image of the character?
Liberals like yourself will make up all kinds of excuses, but never address the elephant in the room which is genetics and culture (gangsta rap....). They wont' even address the obvious ones like broken families and fatherless homes due to welfare and cultural changes of the 60s.
Most mass shooters are Black. A mass shooting is any shooting that has four or more victims.
Whites never "stole" the land, they conquered it. You should learn the difference. Funny how it's only called theft of land if Whites do it. You never hear anyone say Arabs stole North Africa from the Berbers or how Aryans stole India from Dravidians or how Banuts stole Central Africa from the pygmies.
If you can't have White privilege in an all White society, isn't it the best way to end White privilege to create an all White society? On the contrary the ONLY thing stopping White society in the West is lack of political will which stems form lack of awareness of the true causes of racial problems. Plenty of all White societies already exists such as Iceland, Eastern Europe, etc. Guess what, they don't have any racial problems or White privilege. Would you look at that?
How is Washington Post and The Federal Reserve not a valid sources??
So you deny that having big name actors has any benefit to the movie??
THIS IS AN EPIC DUST-UP...KEEP GOING...BUT YOU SHOULD KNOW...YOU ARE WRONG AND SOUND SILLY...BUT SERIOUSLY...KEEP GOING...IT IS SUPER ENTERTAINING.🙂
shareActually I owned that guy.
shareLMAO.🤣
shareIf you disagree, you don't know what constitutes a valid argument or a valid counter argument.
shareYOU DON'T SEEM TO KNOW WHAT CONSTITUTES A HUMAN BEING.😘
shareI have no idea what you mean by that.
shareYOU TALK ALL FUCKED UP AND AWKWARD LIKE...THEN YOU BRAG ABOUT HOW AWESOME AND WINNING YOU ARE.
shareI didn't brag. You said something that wasn't true, I corrected you.
shareI DIDN'T SAY YOU DID...THIS TIME...3871 POSTS HAVE GIVEN EVERYONE PLENTY OF FUCKED UP AND AWKWARD BULLSHIT TO BASE AN OPINION ON YOU...SPOILER ALERT... NOBODY FUCKING LIKES YOU
shareNobody likes the person telling them the truth they don't want to hear. Nobody has ever been able to debunk me.
shareI see a movie that exists not to entertain but to make a point. It looks like a cross between Black Panther and Wonder Woman but with much more heavy handed political messaging. I hate seeing movie theaters struggling and they are trying to get people to come to the movies but no one wants to see this shit. It's a lose lose situation for everyone.
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shareYou were in the movie?
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