It is never spoken of but around 17 million blacks were enslaved by Muslim Arabs, yes you read that right, yet no one never speaks about it.
There are several documentaries on youtube about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki_i2GDm3N8
No one? Not even the producers of the videos? That is a stupid claim to make. I'd say it is very common knowledge that most African slaves were originally captured by other Africans and sold to others, including Europeans.
Are you suggesting that it is okay to own a slave as long as you bought them from someone else and did not capture them yourself? Some people actually believe this; they are evil.
You should stop pretending that you are sharing some sort of secret knowledge with the rest of us.
Yeah i am sure all Americans, including black Americans of course, know that there was this slavery trade well before Western countries did it... 90% couldn't even place Turkey, Algeria or Saudi Arabia on a map lol. (mind you Joe Biden or Trump or Hillary very probably also couldn't).
All people like you want to do is blame white America or Europe so you can't stand it existed, was legalized and encouraged by non-whites well before whites started doing it.
Well, since the buyers and owners of slaves are to blame along with the people who sold them, why should Europe and anyone other slavers be taking the blame along with those in Africa?
I can't stand the idea of slavery whereas you seem to think it was okay as long as only certain people were doing it.
(mind you Joe Biden or Trump or Hillary very probably also couldn't).
oh a republican , I would never have guessed.
You know how the extremist right wingers always saying :
"Democrats hate being white .... the hate white people .... they got white guilt " ?
Well wtf is your OP about if its not "white guilt" about the whites doing slave trade ?
I mean ... I could be on the wrong track , so tell me , if it wasnt white gulit making you post this
then what the hell is your motivation?
Whats your interest in this muslim slave history?
Uh, no, it's common knowledge and often discussed that Arabs were involved in the capture of slaves.
But most slaves in the U.S. were taken from West Africa and the Gulf of Guinea by Europeans.
It's as if you think the existence of Arab slave traders somehow absolves Europeans and Americans of their exploitation and maintenance of slavery. Mind boggling. What's your point?
No-one needs to be absolved, as everyone who was involved is long dead. No-one should be shamed OR absolved at this point.
shareFair enough. But I'm asking why the OP thinks the issue of Arab slave traders is relevant? As you said, they're all long dead. He also claims no one speaks about it. That's patently untrue. Years ago I learned about the Arab slave trade in college. It's not a secret.
Why the OP's deception and what's his point?
"But most slaves in the U.S. were taken from West Africa and the Gulf of Guinea by Europeans."
After sale of those slaves by other Africans. The point is that the culpability of indigenous Africans in the slave trade is rarely emphasized in films and other media in the US. Nor is the fact that Africans continue to practice slavery to this day, something that ought to be considered more outrageous today considering those people involved are alive and something can be done about them.
Slavery has existed since the Stone Age.
But I'm an American. I can only address what the U.S. government does. And it established slavery in my country in defiance of the Bill of Rights. It was wrong. And shifting blame to Arabs or Africans does not absolve the hypocrisy of the U.S. Government. That's all. We must be aware.
And you are grossly uninformed. Or just lying???
1. Slavery in the US precedes independence. So, NO, the US government did NOT establish slavery in the US.
2. The bill of rights doesn't mention slavery, regardless of the color.
3. The bill of rights was amended to specifically mention slavery after abolition. Amendment 13, 1865
Also, something worth mentioning: The party that have opposed the abolishment of slavery and the civil rights for African Americans has been, historically, the democrat party.
So if you blame the US government or USA for past transgressions and hypocrisy you should blame the democrat party as well.
The U.S. Constitution states that black slaves are worth 3/5 of a person. Yes, the Constitution protects slavery and establishes its legitimacy in the new nation.
Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution prohibits Congress from banning the importation of slaves until 1808, and Article 5 prohibited this from being amended. Article 1, Section 2, provides that, for purposes of representation in Congress, enslaved black people in a state would be counted as three-fifths of the number of white inhabitants of that state. Article 4, Section 2, contains the “fugitive slave clause,” which required that an escaped slave be returned to his or her owner.
Yes, we all know the Democrats were the party of slavery at the onset of the Civil War and the Republican Party were abolitionists.
This is the problem with you fools who blame Arabs, Africans and Democrats for slavery. Everyone was at fault.
But I'm an American and that does not excuse my government's part in the slave trade or the fact that my government allowed U.S. citizens to be held as slaves.
Anyone who believes in individual rights over the government must condemn this.
I do. Do you?
Bingo!
You see? You read and you learn something new. I'm proud of you.
"Everyone was at fault."
Bingo x2. And thank you.
So maybe you should stop blaming Europeans exclusively for slavery.
"But I'm an American and that does not excuse my government's part in the slave trade or the fact that my government allowed U.S. citizens to be held as slaves."
And here we have some confusion between government as the institution and government as the people that govern.
It's stupid to blame the institution for the actions of the people. Are the people that were governing at that moment to blame? Sure.
Is the institution to blame? Only if you are a retard ...
You cannot blame the government of today (eg Biden) for what the ancestors did, even if they represented the government. You can only blame those people.
But for idiotic leftists is easy to blame groups and institutions for what some stupid individuals did. eg: Europeans for slavery.
Would you blame Presidency (the institution) for trump stupidity or for biden's dementia? I wouldn't.
NO, it wasn't YOUR government (the ones governing today) that allowed those things in the past.
Things evolve, humans evolve, stop being stuck in the past and blame the people in the past, not the people in the present ...
Uh, no, because I don't live in Zimbabwe or China and I expect more from my government, a government founded on principles of freedom and equality.
Sure, I don't want to live in China where people are imprisoned without due process. But the Chinese make no pretension that they are a nation which guarantees individual liberty. At least they're not hypocrites. The Chinese never had a Constitution as great as that of the U.S. which guaranteed liberty and justice for all.
Yes, the U.S. government as an institution is 246 years old. I hold my government accountable. And I do so because the effects of slavery are still with us. The average net worth of a white American is twice that as the average net worth of a black American
I hold my government accountable to this day because it is our duty as Americans to make sure the state never tramples on the freedom of Americans ever again. You want to forgive and forget and have us all in chains in 20 years.
You and the OP are trying to excuse Americans for slavery because some dumbfuck Arabs were slave traders. WTF does Arab slavery have to do with the hypocrisy of my own government?
This whole thread is a racist farce and the OP starts it with a lie.
"You and the OP are trying to excuse Americans for slavery" - nope, Not excuse. Just put the things into perspective.
Americans are not more guilty than the others. Those were the times.
"I hold my government accountable. " Yeah? So go ask Biden to retire since you hold him accountable for what happened 250 years ago. And all the senators.
"You want to forgive and forget and have us all in chains in 20 years." - nope, that will never come back again.
"The average net worth of a white American is twice that as the average net worth of a black American"
And there are almost twice as many poor whites than poor blacks ...
And I'm not surprised when 72% of the black kids are fatherless, in one parent households. As opposed to 17 percent of Asians, 29 percent of whites.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39993685
https://ifstudies.org/blog/disentangling-the-effects-of-family-structure-on-boys-and-girls
"Here are some of the well-known risks for children growing up with a single mother compared to their peers in married-couple families: lower school achievement, more discipline problems and school suspension, less high school graduation, lower college attendance and graduation, more crime and incarceration (especially for boys), less success in the labor market, and more likely to become single parents themselves (especially for girls), thereby starting the cycle all over again for the next generation."
Look at this group of blacks that's quite successful in the USA, according to you shouldn't be possible:
https://medium.com/@joecarleton/why-nigerian-immigrants-are-the-most-successful-ethnic-group-in-the-u-s-23a7ea5a0832
https://www.ft.com/content/ca39b445-442a-4845-a07c-0f5dae5f3460
So get your shit together and don't blame everything on the whites, you are dragging your race into the gutters by yourself. Change that ghetto culture that you are so proud of yourself, stop killing each other, raise your damn kids to become successful and things will change.
But that's hard, it's easier to blame "the evil whites" ...
I immigrated 8 years ago in this country and I fair pretty well because I work hard, don't look for handouts and I try to improve my life in a legal way. You should try it too.
But of course because I'm white I'm somehow guilty for the US history of slavery ... and you dare talking about racism ...
It appears it will be spoken of in this film. https://www.thewrap.com/the-woman-king-review-viola-davis/
The kingdom has been at war with the Oyo Empire, which routinely kidnaps Dahomey’s people and auctions them off to slave traders. Ghezo is himself complicit in this human trafficking, though Nanisca tries to steer him toward palm oil production as a sustainable alternative for enriching the kingdom.share