MovieChat Forums > The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (2022) Discussion > With all that budget why choose inexperi...

With all that budget why choose inexperienced show runners?

posted 2 years ago by [deleted]
16 replies | jump to latest

Patrick McKay and John D. Payne only had one work to their name as writers (and both were uncredited meaning that they didn't do much) in Star Trek Beyond and yet now they are put in charge of this billion dollar budget show. What's up with that? Is it any wonder why the show has been incredibly poor on very much all levels?

Amazon went the cheap route with the writers/producers of this show and it will bite them in the ass in the long run.

[–] papamihel (1616) 2 years ago

That's the greatest "mystery box" of them all.
Especially considering all those amazing Amazon adaptations. I mean, there's plenty of very talented people working for Prime. And they chose these 2 complete failures.

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 2 years ago

Amazon did the same thing with ' The Wheel of Time '. They handed it over to a bunch of Woke amateurs who proceeded to make absolute pig swill out of it.

The best scene in the first season had no dialogue and the main character in that scene was a stunt woman not an actress. But she gave the best performance in the show by a long margin. That is very telling I think.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Thing is that Patrick McKay and John D. Payne are two white guys so the decision to have them run the show doesn't even makes sense by woke standards. For She-Hulk for example they went with an asian woman (yet she did have some works under her belt before taking on the show). With this it is like a mystery box as papamihel said.

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 2 years ago

What are you saying that white people can't be Woke ?

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

No, that it goes against the woke push for diversity, equity and inclusion in Hollywood. White males are at the bottom of the inter sectional oppression hierarchy and is what they normally seek to replace. It is even more odd in this case because if the show runners had a great resume you could understand but they don't.

[–] LoveCatsHateDogs (1996) 2 years ago

Amazon needed two guys with names that sounded like "David Benioff and D. B. Weiss" so that they could:

1) Be like Game of Thrones.
2) Throw them under the bus when it turns to shit in the post-season/post-finale backlash because we have experience of people with names that sound like that fucking things up, and they will make easy scapegoats.

Still waiting for 2.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Because storytelling is being forgotten in favour of constantly delivering The Message (TM) in most movies and TV shows these days.

[–] papamihel (1616) 2 years ago

There is actually not a lot of "the Message" in the show.
It's just really badly made.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Yeah there is actually more of "the Message" in House of the Dragon than on this show.

[–] asom (6881) 2 years ago

But in HotD at least is well done. And a bit more subversive. While in this one is in your fucking face every time it is ...

[–] asom (6881) 2 years ago

HAHAHAHA, was funny to hear the "The Message (TM)" in the booming voice of The Critical Drinker :D

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Yeah, I love that guy!

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

I have an answer for you, ElSofoqueFinal: because those two are best buddies with their former boss, JJ Abrams of Bad Robot (or Reboot as most call it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLww6cgCHrY

And according to the same video, Amazon has its own "Kathleen Kennedy" too. God help us all!

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

ah so that explains the mystery box style writing then

[–] leader (2063) 2 years ago

Nepotism.

[–] unsanesarah (249) 2 years ago

They do things like this so they have easily malleable show runners. Take two starry eyed new writers, suddenly swept up into the big leagues, they’ll be so happy to be there, and more importantly, so scared to lose it, they will do whatever Amazon tells them to. They’re completely controllable because they will crumble at the slightest conflict.