An INSULT To Tolkien


Brittany is right, this is truly insult to Tolkien from people who don't really care about the source material but only want to push their diversity, equity and inclusion agenda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AtTEr6W4DA

Good to see that it is getting rightly bashed by actual fans of the series.

reply

I WASN'T AWARE THAT BLACK HOBBITS WERE SO INSULTING TO THE ANCIENT CORPSE OF A FANTASY WRITER....WEIRD.

reply

If there were black hobbits in the works of "the ancient corpse of fantasy writer" then you might have a point but considering there weren't any then it makes your poor attempt at a point irrelevant.

Also stating Tolkien as a "ancient corpse of fantasy writer" just shows what a dispicable and horrible person and troll you really are.

reply

THE CORPSE WHO WROTE HIS BOOKS DURING A TIME WHEN INCLUDING BLACK CHARACTERS WAS RARELY DONE AND BLACK PEOPLE WERE TREATED LIKE SECOND HAND SHIT IN GENERAL?...WOW.


OLD DEAD WHITE GUY...ONE DAY I WILL BE ONE TOO.

reply

Your caps lock is on.

reply

THE CORPSE WHO WROTE HIS BOOKS DURING A TIME WHEN INCLUDING BLACK CHARACTERS WAS RARELY DONE AND BLACK PEOPLE WERE TREATED LIKE SECOND HAND SHIT IN GENERAL?


I'm fairly certain Amos Tutuola's fantasy masterpiece My Life in the Bush of Ghosts, which by the way was published the same year as LotR, features only black characters, and I'm fairly certain black people in general weren't "treated like second hand shit" in his native Nigeria, so perhaps the issue is less the "corpse" in question or the times he lived in, but rather the stubbornly parochial and Americentric worldview of people like this series' showrunners, and their incapacity of conceiving of anything outside of its minuscule cultural boundaries?

reply

LMAO...YOU PEOPLE ARE SICK AND FAIRLY DELUSIONAL WITH THIS SHIT...BE A BETTER PERSON.🙄

reply

No one ever takes advice from a shouty person, nor from a person who spouts nothing but bile. And you're doing both.

reply

SHOUTY IS INCORRECT...AS FOR BILE...NO...NO BILE...LORD OF THE RINGS,HOBBIT,TOLKIEN...I AM NOT A FAN...BUT THEY ARE FINE...FANS OF THE SERIES ARE FINE...ENJOY WHAT YOU ENJOY...UNLESS WHAT YOU ENJOY IS PROTESTING THE INCLUSION OF NON WHITE ACTORS...THAT IS JUST STUPID AND AWKWARD.

reply

You're using all-caps - that's being shouty. And you responded to a perfectly reasonable post with "LMAO...YOU PEOPLE ARE SICK AND FAIRLY DELUSIONAL WITH THIS SHIT". That's bile.

reply

I ALSO ENJOY HOBOS WITH TIGHT ASSES.🍭

reply

I mean, there is a chance it comes out but it's engaging and well done despite the diversity shoehorned in. A very small chance, perhaps miniscule or maybe the size of an atom. But a chance nonetheless!

reply

I'm a little worried but I think it's premature to dismiss a show before watching it. I think it will look good but I suspect the writers won't craft a good story/plot. Most of the writers have minimal experience with fantasy/action/adventure shows and one of them worked on the disastrous Star Trek Discovery. I don't have a problem with diverse casting but they should be good actors. The black dwarf hasn't done anything. The black elf is most famous for singing about his hair on Sesame Street and Lenny Henry is horrible.

That season one writers room was packed with talented minds who know a thing or two about creating in the genre space. Game of Thrones’ Bryan Cogman worked, briefly, to get the project started, while Jason Cahill (Fringe, Halt and Catch Fire), Stephany Folsom (Thor Ragnarok), Justin Doble (Stranger Things), Gennifer Hutchison (Breaking Bad), Helen Shang (Hannibal), and Glenise Mullins (Star Trek: Discovery) fleshed out the rest of the team.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/02/10-burning-questions-about-amazons-the-rings-of-power

reply

The biggest red flag for me is the fact that they don't have the rights to the Silmarillion, the main source we have for the Second Age. They can't even try to be faithful, so why pretend that they are? This looks to be a Game of Thrones clone, and they are clearly aiming at new fans of the genre rather than Tolkien fans.

reply

Thal's the real issue. What I fear they're going to do is give viewers a lot of bad fan-fiction that uses Tolkien's own deeply personal vision solely for generic fantasy that they hope will be popular & profitable. In which case, they ought to try creating their own fantasy world from scratch. Except (1) they don't have the imagination & creativity for that, and (2) they don't want to risk something new in the first place.

As for the diversity issue, I welcome it in material that's open for it, and applaud representation for under-represented groups in contemporary entertainment. There are many wonderful fantasy writers today who do create organically diverse worlds, and I'd love to see some of them brought to life onscreen. But Tolkien's work just doesn't fall into that category. And I'm saying this from a liberal/progressive point of view that goes back to my boyhood in the early 1960s. It's simply a matter of respecting the original work & personal vision of the creative artist.

reply

You don't speak for anyone from the Tolkien estate. Secondly, Brittany who?

reply