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Was Sauron really not a bad guy?

posted 3 years ago by CrabgrassWilly (1616)
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Did he just turn out that way because he was bullied by Melkor too much?

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

History is always written by the victors so the losers are always made out to be the villains. Only in time do you often find that the victor was also the villain.

[–] joej2923 (3093) 3 years ago

I'm starting to wonder if this is going to be one of those weird anti-hero woke origin stories like Disney's Cruella or Netflix's Ratched. Sauron may have been trying to liberate the oppressed subjects of the various Dwarven/Elven/Human royalty.

[–] CrabgrassWilly (1616) 3 years ago

I really hope not.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Sauron WAS a bad guy, no doubt about it. Anyone here who says otherwise can STFU and GTFO right now.

[–] CrabgrassWilly (1616) 3 years ago

You should probably learn to recognize satire and sarcasm better. But I'll cut you some slack, because at least you're passionate about these awesome movies.

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8815) 3 years ago

Legit LOLd at this.

[–] papamihel (1616) 3 years ago

There were some among lesser gods who were arrogant and proud and Melkor used that to turn them against the Valar.
He didn't bully them.

[–] Owlwise (1536) 3 years ago

Well said. He offered what they wanted, and they couldn't or wouldn't see that they'd wind up being his servants & under his domination, far more so than they had imagined themselves to be under the rest of the Valar. The weaker ones submitted to Melkor, the stronger & smarter ones (like Sauron) waited for their chance to take Melkor's place.

[–] Volley (3433) 3 years ago

Not as bad as Morgoth, but I'd say Sauron was the master manipulator though.