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Are ALL their Children White?

posted 5 years ago by Jeepster (1159)
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I'm talking about Cal & Angela. You have Topher & the youngest one, both white with both black parents. There's another sister that we haven't got to see yet, so I'll hold off on that one.

interesting, a show who's plot focuses on white on black racism, has a black family with mostly if not all white children with 2 black parents. That comedian logo at the end should be a SJW seal of approval logo. Might as well be. Does it seem like we're being force feed a agenda deliberately or is it just me?

Btw I just realized "Cal" is Black Manta! Didn't recognize him in this, did not realize who he was. Good to know though.

[–] papamihel (1616) 5 years ago

Obviously the kids are adopted. Most likely, as a result of her wound Angela lost the ability to bear children.

As for the "agenda" it remains to be seen. Personally I have no interest in yet another exploration of racism but I am not an American. There's a possibility that American artists are no longer capable of producing anything that is not connected to some mandatory social issue.
Judging by the Ozymandias' track record it's not impossible that he decided to eradicate racism as one of the obstacles on the road to an ideal society and now he is manipulating the "Cavalry" dudes to do something so atrocious it would force humanity to overcome ages old differences. Or something...

[–] Jeepster (1159) 5 years ago

It’s possible papamihel, but there was that scene with the newspaper headline confirming Veidt’s death. Red Herring you think? Thanks for your reply btw.

[–] papamihel (1616) 5 years ago

Did you miss him being alive and living a life of a country gentleman in Wales? Jeremy Irons plays Veidt.

[–] Jeepster (1159) 5 years ago

Ohhhh....I didn’t realize who Irons was supposed to be! Many thanks papamihel.

[–] Burk48917 (11442) 5 years ago

You're assuming those scenes are congruent with the timeline of the other characters, which might not be the case.

[–] papamihel (1616) 5 years ago

This is a damn good point. It's not impossible that the newspaper article about his death is actually from the future of his story arc.

[–] NorrinRad (5470) 5 years ago

As I watched the first episode I had this desire to try and make "connections" as well as try and establish which POVs and which characters to follow. It is pretty evident that the show's creator Damon Lindelof has a particular story that he is trying to tell and starting off with Bass Reaves and the Tulsa Riots is something that will resonate only to the curious. Personally I knew about both and the inclusion of those two historical footnotes were more than just "Easter Eggs".

The two are in actuality no more historical footnotes than Amistad in America history or folklore. Like you have implied, it remains to be seen if an exploration of racism as an "Agenda" narrative is something that will become event viewing produced by American artists mandatorily connected to social issues. It would seem self-serving if that was the case.

The 1st episode seemed determined to establish "White Supremacy" as a problem but not necessarily Racism and the Racism made no sense in the world as it was presented and neither did "White Supremacy". It appeared that Bass Reaves was the origin story of the "Masked Vigilante" and where this universe supposedly starts with the creation of Watchmen?

Why are the police being hunted? Why does it appear that a police state exists? Why is Vietnam a state and or Territory of the USA? (To the victor goes the spoils?)

Little Big Horn and The 7th Calvary are again footnotes to "Custer's Last Stand" but I can't "connect" the significance beyond the obvious.

Finally the Kid sent off by himself after his world is destroyed had a tinge of Kal-El and Krypton but I don't know if that was intentional or just me being too much Comic-Book CSI. 😎

[–] NorrinRad (5470) 5 years ago

interesting, a show who's plot focuses on white on black racism, has a black family with mostly if not all white children with 2 black parents. That comedian logo at the end should be a SJW seal of approval logo. Might as well be. Does it seem like we're being force feed a agenda deliberately or is it just me?

I still think the series focuses on "White Supremacy" and not so much White Racism. Doing it through the lens of actual events doesn't mean it is or isn't some type of agenda but I personally think you are placing your own biases about how you feel about Race and Entertainment on the show.

White children have been adopted by non-white families as well as there have been black families that have been foster parents for children of different races. In this case it is more about a bond between the families and given some of the dialog in Episode II it appears that the immediate family of the children are being "Saved" from their White Supremacist relatives?

With two episodes already out I do wonder if each episode will feature some not well publicized historical event to set a story narrative or just be a thread. The typewriter used by the German woman appears to be the same typewriter that Adrian Veidt (Jeremy Irons) uses to write his play, which is an origin story of Dr. Manhattan. A letter dictated in Germany during WWI finds its way into the present day hands of Angela Abar (Sister Night). Angela Abar is the offspring of a military family stationed in Vietnam before it becomes a US territory and then state?

Metaphors and Cyphers run deep and rampant in the first two episodes and the show is 6-degrees of separation too smart to be just an agenda driven vanity effort by the creator(s). I used plural to acknowledge both Moore and Lindelof.