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is the Dark Phoenix Story Arch Cursed? or did Disney mess it up to move X-men into the MCU

posted 6 years ago by Master (1494)
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I know it doesn't make sense since Disney owns Fox but maybe they just did it so moviegoers would be more supportive of an mcu move I know they helped Captain Marvel make more money than Wonder Woman since Captain Marvel played in more theaters than an average marvel movie and was put in theaters like it was an avengers movie maybe Fox needed to treat X-men like it was it own cinematic universe and have close to 22 X-Men Movies because Marvel comic fans have a saying you can read Marvel Comics or you can Read X-Men I forget all the time X-Men are Marvel because there is so much X-Men to read

[–] AP (5290) 6 years ago

Disney had nothing to do with this movie. It failed largely because they made the same mistakes they did the last time.

[–] Master (1494) 6 years ago

they didn't make them change the ending? so Dark Phoenix cursed?

[–] AP (5290) 6 years ago

Disney didn't make them change the ending. Fox decided it on their own.

[–] SeussMyTub (226) 6 years ago

Dark Phoenix isnt cursed- its Kinberg who is cursed. He is such a total idiot who should never have been put in charge of the franchise since he wrote both flops, and he wasnt even true to the source material.

[–] Master (1494) 6 years ago

the same writer? why would you do that

[–] Wuchak (8830) 6 years ago

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[–] PussyMonster (294) 6 years ago

You’re replying to the wrong guy.

[–] PussyMonster (294) 6 years ago

he wasnt even true to the source material.

That was the point.

https://jimmy-o-face.tumblr.com/post/185752256062/dark-phoenix-is-based-around-an-idea-from-days-of

[–] Wuchak (8830) 6 years ago

since he wrote both flops,

Are you trying to rewrite history? "X-Men: The Last Stand" (2006) was -- by far -- the most successful X-Men flick at the box office up until "Days of Future Past" (2014).

True, a lot of comic fanboys may not like it, but that doesn't take away from its significant SUCCESS with the general public at theaters.

For me, I found the Dark Phoenix storyline in "Last Stand" compelling -- despite the understandable deviations from the comics -- but the filmmakers fumbled the ball with the hackneyed (dull) mutant battle at Alcatraz in the last act. They should've kept the focus on the more interesting Dark Phoenix storyline.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

I remember dark phoenix being one of the more memorable story arcs of the comic books.

Amazing that they pretty much did it twice, and messed it up both times!

[–] Master (1494) 6 years ago

yeah there's other good story arcs but yeah was it they tried to fit it in one movie, maybe it should of been Dark Phoenix Part 1.

[–] ultravioletx (10237) 6 years ago

Kinberg wanted his Dark Phoenix story in a more down to earth setting. It didn't work in Last Stand. It doesn't work here. Its not what X-Men fans want to see. So as Kinberg admitted... the failure of Dark Phoenix was on him.

[–] Master (1494) 6 years ago

no just take the comic off the page and put as much as you can on the screen

[–] PussyMonster (294) 6 years ago

It’s not suppose to be an adaptation of Dark Phoenix. That’s actually a red herring. Read:

https://jimmy-o-face.tumblr.com/post/185752256062/dark-phoenix-is-based-around-an-idea-from-days-of

Having Jean commit genocide would have contradicted the film’s opening statement.

[–] ultravioletx (10237) 6 years ago

Ugh. The English in that post is atrocious.

Regardless of multiple timelines, its called Dark Phoenix and it also has the space station incident that unleashes the Dark Phoenix.

Its an adaptation of Dark Phoenix. Its just a bad one.

[–] PussyMonster (294) 6 years ago

Its called because the film asks the question of whether or not that will be Jean’s fate.

[–] PussyMonster (294) 6 years ago

It wasn’t trying to be a faithful adaptation. Rather the opposite. Read:

https://jimmy-o-face.tumblr.com/post/185752256062/dark-phoenix-is-based-around-an-idea-from-days-of