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Instead of Dani, Sarah should have made a new John

posted 3 years ago by kuatorises (7467)
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They were trying to do something new. Killing John Connor is kinda sacrilegious, but I understand they were trying to breath new life into the franchise. But instead of bringing in some new unbelievable hero like Dani, they should have had Sarah kidnap an infant or something. Sarah was always a little unhinged after the first movie and John is iconic, Dani is not. Sarah gets a brand new kid and trains him just like she did with John. Kid doesn't know any better, so no reason not to believe her. It makes more sense than Dani and adds some moral grayness to Sarah's actions, like when she tried to kill Dyson.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

That's not a bad idea!

Apparently, the one of the ideas for the Salvation script was that John Connor discovers that he is part Terminator. Unfortunately, once the detail leaked on the Internet (thanks for nothing Internet) they re-wrote it, making Worthington's character the unknowing cyborg. They then used the John Connor/ Terminator idea for the next movie.

[–] MisterE (733) 3 years ago

I think that originally John was going to die and they were going to transplant his face onto Terminator Marcus. That's lame enough, but what we got instead was a battlefield heart transplant to save Connor's life.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

I know they were trying to add something new, but killing Connor rubbed a lot of people the wrong way and Dani was not a good replacement. But an imposter that doesn't know he's an imposter? Guarantee you it bothers people less and would make Sarah still nuts; while technically doing something for the greater good.

They seemed hell-bent with the human/machine hybrid storyline between Salvation, Genesys, and Dark Fate.

[–] ehewitt (45) 2 years ago

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[–] ADBruno1985 (3506) 2 years ago

I think that sounds like a good plot. My only problem is that I think that after John died, Sarah would've had the mentality that she couldn't protect her own son, who was born for a great destiny that he missed, so she would probably fail in protecting another child. In fact she'd likely be dooming them by dragging them into this mess. Then again, that kid would die on Judgment Day anyhow, and could be a shot at redemption, and maybe it's fate for her to take another kid, but of course that leads to too heavy questions about if our free will matters if fate is preordained? But I digress.

All that said, the franchise needs to just be finished. I read that the potential 7th would have focused on Grace in a war in the future, and that just sounds lame, the character was interesting but not that compelling to me. And as ho-hum of a finale as Dark Fate would be, it's ridiculous to keep contriving of ways for Arnold and Linda to come back, but they're needed to make the franchise work. So since they got them, it's not like they're going to be able to do better. And they can't keep doing this into their 80s. Just let it end.