This on video yet?
. . . wanna' give it as a gag gift.
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MovieChat Forums > Terminator: Dark Fate (2019) Discussion > This on video yet?
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shareThe people who replied to this thread don't seem to realize that DVD, Blu-ray, and digital downloads/streaming are all video. For that matter, this movie was shot on video in the first place, so even if you saw it in the theater it was "on video."
shareThanks dude or dudette!
Yeah, I know, they thought they were being smart and funny while attempting to shame me.
I was too gentlemanly to say, 'Your comment's so stoopid, you must be a bitch!'.
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videography and digital cinematography are not the same.
anyway, the "video" release (streaming/download) has been released today, as far as i know.
I had no idea how the original post would be such a magnet for the anal retentive.
sharenot sure what you're trying to say. you were asking for the "home" release, didn't you?
i agree with MaximRecoil that dvd/bluray etc. can be called video, colloquially (video = synecdoche for all kind of home releases). but MaximRecoil's second statement is false and basically contradicts his/her first one. terminator dark fate was not "shot on video".
I'm not knocking you, just a couple of other idiots that chimed in above.
I'm well aware of the difference between analog and digital videography.
I'm old enough to have done both professionally, as well as remembering our family's first VCR as 'bleeding-edge' technology.
Videography refers to the process of capturing moving images on electronic media (e.g., videotape, direct to disk recording, or solid state storage) and even streaming media.
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"videography and digital cinematography are not the same."
Cinematography using a video camera is just a specific type of videography. You'd hire a cinematographer if you wanted to shoot a movie, while you'd hire a videographer if you wanted to, e.g., shoot a wedding. But regardless of that, the difference between videography and digital cinematography is utterly irrelevant to anything I said, which means your statement is a non sequitur.
"anyway, the "video" release (streaming/download) has been released today, as far as i know."
You can consider your quotation marks around the word video dismissed. It is video, by definition.
"i agree with MaximRecoil that dvd/bluray etc. can be called video, colloquially"
No, not colloquially. DVD, BD, and digital streams/downloads are all video, by definition. DVD uses an MPEG-2 video stream (MPEG-2 is a video codec) and BD uses MPEG-2, h.264, and other types of video codecs for coding the video stream. Digital streaming/downloads use video codecs such as h.264 and h.265, among others, for coding the video stream.
"but MaximRecoil's second statement is false"
No, it isn't. Terminator: Dark Fate was shot on video, like most other movies these days. The video codec they used is called ArriRaw, and it was shot with an Arri Alexa LF video camera.
"and basically contradicts his/her first one."
No, it doesn't.
"terminator dark fate was not "shot on video"."
Yes, it absolutely was. There are only two possibilities for shooting a movie: video and film. There are many different video formats, both analog and digital. No major movie has ever been shot on analog video, but countless ones have been shot on digital video. One of the earliest ones, and the first hugely successful one, was Star Wars: Episode II – Attack of the Clones (2002). Terminator: Dark Fate wasn't shot on film.
the term "video" is used specifically to distinct from theatrical presentations. that's why you say "film", even if it's shot with a digital motion picture camera. no one says "i'm going to the theatre to watch a video".
if you're so desperate to imply that the movie was shot digitally, call it "digital movie" or whatsoever, but calling it video is a fallacy.
"...and it was shot with an Arri Alexa LF video camera."
nope, because the arri alexa lf is a digital motion picture camera.
Jesus Christ, is this really happening?
'Is this on video yet?' simply refers to 'IS IT FUCKING AVAILABLE IN THE BARGIN BIN AT WALMART?'.
DAMN!
What the fuck is wrong with you Millennials?
Get the stick out of your ass and have a drink, or get laid, or jerk-off to a Hillary poster - just get it out of your system.
FUCK! you people are weird.
"the term "video" is used specifically to distinct from theatrical presentations."
That's only one sense of the word, and that's only because until fairly recently, there was no such thing as a movie shot on video that got a theatrical release.
"that's why you say "film", even if it's shot with a digital motion picture camera."
I don't. I call them all "movies" regardless of whether they were shot on film or video. Plus, "film" is a blatant misnomer in the case of movies shot on video.
"no one says "i'm going to the theatre to watch a video"."
It doesn't matter if anyone does or not. If it's shot on video then they are watching video, obviously.
"if you're so desperate to imply that the movie was shot digitally, call it "digital movie" or whatsoever, but calling it video is a fallacy."
No, it isn't. It's a video by definition. The device that is displaying it in a theater is a video projector. The file that is driving the video projector is a video file. The device that captured it is a video camera.
"nope, because the arri alexa lf is a digital motion picture camera."
"Motion picture" can be in the form of video or film. It's not a film camera, obviously, so what does that leave?
"The body of the ALEXA LF includes the same user interface and features found on your ALEXA SXT W, including the integrated wireless video transmitter."
What possible function could a wireless video transmitter have on a camera that, according to you, isn't a video camera? Where it is getting the video to transmit if it isn't a video camera?
Any sequence of images designed to be displayed in rapid succession in order to create the illusion of motion, that can be displayed directly on a video display device, is video, obviously.
if you keep neglecting to distinguish between videography and cinematography, then i can't help you. go on making a fool of yourself by calling all movies video then.
share"if you keep neglecting to distinguish between videography and cinematography"
I already told you that it's utterly irrelevant, moron, because it has nothing to do with the fact that all motion picture cameras that aren't film cameras are video cameras, which means that all movies that weren't shot on film were shot on video, period. Film and video are the only two methods of capturing motion pictures that exist / that have ever existed.
"then i can't help you. go on making a fool of yourself"
Comical irony from the dipshit who has no idea what the word "video" means, yet attempts to speak authoritatively on the subject anyway.
"by calling all movies video then"
^^^ Reading Deficiency Alert
I call all movies "movies," as I've already said. If you want to call them by the name of the format in which they were shot, then movies shot on film can accurately be called "films" and movies shot on video can accurately be called "videos," obviously.
In any case, since you presented no arguments, your tacit concession on the matter is noted.
it's pretty simple: there are "simple" video cameras and there are digital motion picture cameras. yes they are related technically, but the difference is that a digital motion picture camera can capture pictures which look akin to film pictures. that's why you commonly distinguish between video and movie. the typical video look is different than the look of film and digital motion picture cameras (depht of field!). it is relevant, because you don't want a movie to look like video (unless you're shooting a found footage flick maybe).
"it's pretty simple: there are "simple" video cameras and there are digital motion picture cameras. yes they are related technically, but the difference is that a digital motion picture camera can capture pictures which look akin to film pictures."
It doesn't matter; they are video cameras nonetheless.
"that's why you commonly distinguish between video and movie."
No, the reason that it's common is because, up until the early 2000s, all major movies were shot on film, and shooting movies on film was still the rule rather than the exception up until the 2010s. Outdated terminology has a way of sticking around, like "dialing" a phone number, even though it's been about 35 years since people commonly used phones that had dials.
Today, the vast majority of movies are shot on video.
"the typical video look is different than the look of film and digital motion picture cameras (depht of field!). it is relevant, because you don't want a movie to look like video (unless you're shooting a found footage flick maybe)."
Again, it doesn't matter. Dressed up video is still video. If not looking like your idea of what video is supposed to look like meant that it wasn't video, then DVDs and BDs that contained a movie that was shot on film wouldn't be video either. But they are video, just as the ArriRaw source files for T:DF are video. Any means of electrically or electronically capturing or storing motion picture footage is video. Film, on the other hand, is a photosensitive chemical reaction process.
you're still comparing apples and oranges. it's one thing what you shoot on and it's a different thing what your end format is. you can shoot on film and release that movie on vhs video.
share"you're still comparing apples and oranges."
I haven't done any such thing, so consider your non sequitur dismissed.
"it's one thing what you shoot on and it's a different thing what your end format is. you can shoot on film and release that movie on vhs video."
Thank you, Captain Obvious, but I've already said as much, i.e.:
"If not looking like your idea of what video is supposed to look like meant that it wasn't video, then DVDs and BDs that contained a movie that was shot on film wouldn't be video either. But they are video, just as the ArriRaw source files for T:DF are video."
Had you been able to read the above text properly you would already know that I already know that a movie can be shot on film and released on video. Likewise, a movie can be shot on video, released on film for theaters, then released on video for the home market. That happened a lot during the 2000s and 2010s when most / a lot of theaters still only had film projectors. These days, most movies are shot on video, released to theaters on video in the form of a DCP (because nearly all theaters have video projectors now), and released on video for the home market (in the form of a DVD, BD, or download/stream), i.e., a 100% video chain.
Before home video was a thing, movies were shot on film (usually 35mm) and some of them were released on film (usually 8mm), in highly abbreviated form, for the home market. Some of them were also converted to, e.g., NTSC video via, e.g., a telecine machine for broadcasting on TV.
I think MaximRecoil is a T-800 machine with these long-winded responses. I'm waiting for him to say 'I have detailed files'.
shareSo did you get it on vhs or betamax? I think betamax quality is better.
shareHow Dare You!!!
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