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if you think "Skin White As Snow" must mean 1800s Germanic European, you're functionally retarded


https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=albino+african+people

99% of caucasian Europeans do not have skin white as snow.

you, the whiny baby who are about to type a reply to this post with "WAHHH it's a European Fairy Tale the W0KE leftists (TM) are destROYING. it HAS to mean MY white ancestors because ",

you do not have skin white as snow, and neither did 99% of your ancestors. you are a beach sand dirty peach, not a snow white. you will never will be a snow white. albinos (across the world) are the closest. so get fucked

since the grimms didn't detail any ethnic background, disney did what classical european ingenuity does best: took someone else's work, found a loophole, then drove a big BelAZ 75710 truck through it for personal profit πŸ˜‚. 19th century germans would be proud. the perpetually whitewashed jesus of nazereth sends his regards

now although we can only reason and surmise (and cling to) uncertainties about race ethnicity etc, i think it stands best to reason only one certain thing about that grimm tale: that queen was a worldly horny lil slut who got around. can't ever convince me otherwise

so disney is the ultimate troll and it's hilarious 🀣 ...............now if they turn her snow into some misandrist feminist and one that dont need to kiss from no stinky man, then they can fuck off. 🀬 hahahaha. he better get that fucking kiss. i can forgive it if there's no sloppy tongue and maybe not on the deathbed but, NO MORE

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In the original story, Snow White is said to have had β€œskin as white as snow, lips as red as blood

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πŸ€§πŸ™

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Pretty sure he's trolling. It's impossible to defend a position where the author *literally* described Snow White's appearance and her being named after her appearance..

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Albinos have red eyes, not lips!

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She is not described as being albino. Those people also don't have black hair.πŸ†

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...that a lot of modern whites (caucasians) can't read and comprehend is precisely why you're in this predicament in the first place (those are the same people... 99% of whom don't know what the word "objectively" means). none of that addresses anything

if your skin or skin of any caucasian you know has skin as white as snow you need head to an emergency room and have it looked at immediately no joke.

since i have to spell it out (apparently πŸ˜”): snow is the operative descriptor to focus on, not "white". "white" is a color or a race, by early 19th century german (and still modern) standards. 19th century snow looked exactly like what it does today, not peachy average caucasian phenotype skin's color. toss any of these people into a snow pile, and you can find them easily, easier than finding waldo. but i know you know this .. okay maybe not you, but many others.

every rationale for these people's preferred imagined race is refutable precisely by the text of the story itself (or lack of text in the case of explicit description). people who want to read meaning into the text have apparently a best shot: (hopelessly) argue that it was meant to be "skin as racially white as snow" and that the entire description is a supposed to be metaphor since snow and race are only related metaphorically. but they still have problems that can't be overcome: 1) claiming with any authority what "white" is supposed to mean (insurmountable hurdle by itself since only the author is the authority), and 2) reasoning that such a claim which leads to metaphor would somehow undeniably be any more valid than the equally plausible reading (color white, within a fantastical story), which leads to a more literal description (which could then also be argued to be clearer, since a literal description needs no subjective "clever" consideration and interpretation that a metaphor does).

the entire text leads only to ambiguity for all of it. race and ethnicity are not explicitly mentioned. either must be subjectively interpreted in. these people all know this. their conclusion in not absolutely defensible. so they argue around it, without success, and just hope enough repetition of their certain belief wills it into reality. thats your, and their, ambiguity problem to deal with. you have grimms themselves to thank for your forced corrected recognition of your previously held delusion. be sure not to ever blame anyone else

oh and by the way if in desperation you want to take "skin racially white as snow" route, even more good luck with that: you now get to explain that metaphor. then you get to explain why skin is specifically referred to, when many phenotypes were actually, otherwise collectively considered for race. then you get to explain why "skin white" refers to race but "lips red" refers to color (ooh or maybe red meant chinese? πŸ˜†). THEN you get to explain why your interpretation is infallible/objective, even though interpretations are inherently subjective. have fun πŸ‘

..it's fitting that clowns of all races/colors paint their skin actually white.. perfect metaphor

oh and just for fun there's a very much more fitting closer to accurate snow white riiiight here πŸ€­πŸ‘‡

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"And whilst she was sewing and looking out of the window at the snow, she [Queen] pricked her finger with the needle, and three drops of blood fell upon the snow. And the red looked pretty upon the white snow, and she thought to herself, would that I had a child as white as snow, as red as blood, and as black as the wood of the window-frame.

Soon after that she had a little daughter, who was as white as snow, and as red as blood, and her hair was as black as ebony, and she was THEREFORE called little Snow White."


Quote directly from the story although the capitalization is mine. Couldn't be any less ambiguous than that, but your tap dancing is certainly entertaining!

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ooooh and this is the part where you finally accept that the queen was a worldly slut who hoped for a mixed race caucasian (white) african (black) native american (red), child mixed from all the guys she was fucking exactly as i stated a long long time ago! JOY! πŸ€—

don't worry buddy i've read/studied it in detail a long time ago but i always welcome all the quotes!

unfortunately you failed every required explanation asked of you, and your quote adds nothing new. but no matter! to refresh: i have some bold text for you...at this point i don't even think you're clear as to what's even happening here any more. the topic has been since the beginning as follows, chum:

if you think "Skin White As Snow" must mean 1800s Germanic European, you're functionally retarded


snow white's skin was white because the text said so. there's never been an argument otherwise (πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ).you and the other guy missed that entirely and you are arguing against yourself at this point.the argument such that there even is one, is about inferring an explicitly 1800s Germanic European race and/or ethnicity from that color descriptor.

this is white https://img.freepik.com/free-photo/cement-texture_1194-6523.jpg
this is snow https://images7.alphacoders.com/673/thumb-1920-673871.jpg
if you know any modern/ancient germans/european/caucasians with that skin color call Guinness/Smithsonian/a doctor or something.

you realize, too, that neither the 1937 cartoon nor any well known live action has ever featured a snow white character of proper skin color (i leave open the possibility for eccentric films and porn parodies).

here are some of your closest 'real' snow whites: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=albino+african+people
and a good fake approximation: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnFXov4WYAAlCvJ?format=jpg&name=360x360

now that you actually know what's happening, you can live comfortably knowing that yes your ability read that quoted paragraph is UNCANNY. if thats been your only hangup the whole time you can leave HEAD HELD SO SO HIGH, you vanilla πŸ‘‘KINGπŸ‘‘, you 😘

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"And whilst she was sewing and looking out of the window at the snow, she [Queen] pricked her finger with the needle, and three drops of blood fell upon the snow. And the red looked pretty upon the white snow, and she thought to herself, would that I had a child as white as snow, as red as blood, and as black as the wood of the window-frame.

Soon after that she had a little daughter, who was as white as snow, and as red as blood, and her hair was as black as ebony, and she was THEREFORE called little Snow White."


Quote directly from the story although the capitalization is mine. Couldn't be any less ambiguous than that, but your tap dancing is certainly entertaining!

Now explain why the sky isn't actually blue on a clear day.

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awww look at cute lil Joshua ain't he the cutest πŸ’‹πŸ’‹πŸ’‹
https://images7.alphacoders.com/673/thumb-1920-673871.jpg

and there goes little Mary such a darling πŸ€—
https://wallpapercave.com/dwp1x/OvqV2oL.jpg

and lil Jacob looks just like his mother πŸ₯°
https://as1.ftcdn.net/jpg/02/28/57/84/1000_F_228578425_hCRziwFdpPWjqmxSdHqD1fWinLaIorAM.webp

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"Now explain why the sky isn't actually blue on a clear day."

That should be fun!

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nope sorry not gonna happen! sky is (often) sky blue and snow white is snow white not peach. if you're white (caucasian), your skin color is ranged around ivory/peach/pink, not literally white much less snow white. you get no cookies πŸͺ.

take your delusional Snow Off-Dirty-Peach worship and head thataway! πŸΊπŸ˜„πŸ‘‰

(the cognitive dissonance some caucasians have over their actual skin color and the twisting into knots to fit themselves into this character is hilarious πŸ˜‚)

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disney should do it just for tantrums 🀣
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfA9p_UWUAA93vG?format=jpg&name=small

quoting myself immediately previously:

these people all know this. their conclusion in not absolutely defensible. so they argue around it, without success, and just hope enough repetition of their certain belief wills it into reality.


oh thank you for being my predicted caricatureπŸ‘† so quickly. i know you so well 🀭

after first giving benefit of the doubt another thing to add to the list of some white people, updated:
1) they dont know the meaning of the word "objectively"
2) they think their own skin color is literally the color white
3) some really are legitimately functionally retarded🀣

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most historically accurate snow white discovered πŸ€”?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnFXov4WYAAlCvJ?format=jpg&name=360x360

πŸ˜„ read up πŸ‘†

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i love how angry minorities get, this is ofcourse all projection. I know you wished your skin was white instead of of the Pantone 448 C color it is now.
The american people has spoken we don't want woke snowwhite.

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ohhhhh look another whiny little anti woke crybaby complaining about minorites 🍼😭

are you still here to beg mommy Kathleen Kennedy to make you a star wars movie you can watch with a plainly identifiable self insert that you vicariously pretend to be hero with? tsk tsk does mommy Kathleen need to put you in another Acolyte timeout?

keep typing maybe one day they'll actually give a shit about your opinion, promise πŸ˜ͺ
⌨ clack ⌨ clack ⌨ clack

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Only one here is crying is YOU! every complaint you minorities have is basically crying about not being white, its hilarious, stay shook lol

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lay off the gluten and mayonnaise.. you're not sounding ok 🀑
the world is not out to get you. the world doesn't want to be you
maybe just take little of your fentanyl and relax. take a lot actually

you'll be back to crying about nonwhites on your tv and impotently reminiscing about the days you didn't have to beg a woman for permission to see yourself in your favorite movies, in no time! 🀧

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you seem mentality ill.

seriously. Get help you fucking leftwing nut job.
Get off the internet and into a bed/rubbercell at an asylum.

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me not doing that and not giving a shit about you at the same time:
πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ’ͺπŸ˜Žβšβ–ˆβ•βœŠβ•β–ˆβš

not pictured: my Disney Snow White t-shirt on, with Rachel Zegler on the front saying wIeRD WiERD and on the back the text: get fucked

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Who cares for caucasian skin tone? This story is about a girl with "Skin White As Snow" u tard

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um. yes. a story about a fictional girl with skin white as snow being represented by a girl with skin tone that is white as snow works for me.

that is not this thread. that thread is over there πŸ‘‰
this is a specific thread. this one is about correcting false presumptions about said fictional character's real race.

i hesitate to rate you as functionally retarded because you tried your best πŸ’

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Rich Europeans who didn’t work outside has very pale skin which is what this means. We are the palest people

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..by itself wouldn't explain why the relative continental centrality.. one would assume there have historically been rich people all around the world at any given point in time (maybe that's evidence europeans always had servants/slaves in contrast to the rest of the world 🀯?? kidding of course or am i)

but sure generally being outside and the relation to wealth plus the closer to the equator the harsher the sun, level of ultraviolet radiation in parts of the world etc etc. works for me! very pale. very beautiful

Snow Pale or Pale White is on my radar. i've seen enough cosplays and porn to know that she's got it going on! πŸ₯°

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I've never understood this obsession with skin color or shades thereof.
All of humanity originates from Africa, meaning we all have black ancestors and that "black" isn't black either, but a shade of brown.
Look at all the Europeans going on vacation to the beach to get suntan, which literally means they are trying to get their skin as dark brown as possible, look at how many sun studios there are in the western world where you can get your skin darker as it naturally is, all the tanning beds you can buy for home use and then let's start over the discussion which skin color people prefer.

Language has always exaggerated objective facts, in spoken as well as in written words, a bit lighter than brown becomes white, a bit darker than this new definition of white becomes black, Chinese eyes become slits, the eyes of a pretty girl shine like diamonds, a passionate kiss makes a girl see the stars, thick fog becomes you cannot see your own hands before your eyes, etc., etc., but none of any of this matches objective reality.
So what are movie producers supposed to do? Try to match the literal words from a book and use an overload of makeup on an actress to make her skin look literally plain white, or try to match what the actual reality of that exaggeration would look like?
I for one can imagine what literal white would look like in a face and ..... no thanks ..... I don't want to see that as a skin color.

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no need to imagine
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnFXov4WYAAlCvJ?format=jpg&name=360x360

true about the skin color stuff. interestingly at times when other cultures pay homage to foreign stories, in the Arts, they too work with what they've got. as i've seen, a theatrical play in india might put on a snow white play and use just another actor (maybe the lightest one?)... working within the confines of whats available. disney appears to be doing that now too.. well in addition to what they call color blind casting or others call DEI. then, disney now adds an additional option to the "what are they supposed to do" question: explicitly change the story to better reflect the reality. arguably that's the better choice: had previous disney changed the skin part, as they did with other parts of the story, there'd probably be fewer people today growing up to now conflating the color with the race, and/or believing the version they know is correct as opposed to merely the one they know. or disney could just leave it be and have visuals with story make no sense, just so they could attach that explicitly human element to their own adaptation (whereas its fantasy world need never follow any earthly rules).

either way your question is a good one, what are they supposed to do? when adapting to human adaptions, does this mean the modern disney is actually smarter than classical disney? hmmmmm πŸ€”

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I guess the biggest problem they have is that "white" people back in the times when the book was written were far darker than Europeans are nowadays (unless they sunbath a lot).
So making a movie about a girl that is even in reality supposed to have a lighter skin than any other real person at the time cannot match the reality of what the lightest skin in old times would have looked like, because the lightest possible back then was still darker than the average today and that then raises all the protest from people who do not know better and only see that the girl in the movie has a darker skin than the viewers have themselves.

Furthermore we know what it looks like when skin becomes too light, not only from albinos, because there is a historic exception of people in old times having lighter skin color than anyone nowadays has.
The term "blue blooded" originates from Spanish, English and French nobility, who were staying inside their palaces all their time and getting so little sunlight that their skin became so light, it actually turned transparent and made the veins under the skin appear blue.
I don't think anyone nowadays would find that attractive.

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oh now this is interesting i did not know this. i've always found it difficult to gauge this visually because color photographs were yet invented, and the primitive technology that did exist would certainly be lacking adequate coloring accuracy. the best visual evidence to go on is then left to the painting self portraits.... aside from being limited to paint color palettes, there's incentive to recolor portraits to a color more appealing to the subjects, more in line to as they saw themselves or wanted to be seen...thus incentive to show themselves lighter, for "nobility prestige" glow so to speak.. so for me it's tough to trust the paintings entirely too. that compounds problem with this issue.

that's why it's so interesting to describe the fictional character as unrealistically light that no real human fit -particularly if they were generally even dark than now as you say- and that the queen mother wishes, only after specifically pricking her fingers and whilst looking at the her blood on the snow.. in other words, not for any specific nobility or even self mirroring considerations. she, in her fantastical universe of dwarves witches and magic, found it visually attractive, and found it so, in that moment

and now i definitely need to look into this darker skin and blueblood info/angle more πŸ‘

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well. mea culpa time.

i must admit i've been wrong all along. i did indeed have it pointed out to me elsewhere that 19th century german area peoples did in fact fit the descripton of snow white. i have this vintage photograph. i'm told this is one of the first color photographs probably somewhere in the prussian kingdom in some area between modern frankfurt and berlin. while i'm no expert on german people's history it does indeed appear to be a native woman (and indo european/goth/frank/slavic influence?) and very real.

and what a beautiful woman for the time! 😍 i'm kinda in love. what a time to have been alive! please accept my apology!

https://imengine.public.prod.cdr.navigacloud.com/?uuid=50604905-C62D-46F2-A0E1-9F7FAA81425F&function=cover&type=preview&source=false&width=1050&height=550

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