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Evil romans against poor freedom fighters


The way this show is built makes it slightly less credible than the rebellious speech Monty Python and the Life of Brian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9foi342LXQE
People really do believe Rome was evil and all the other warmongering tribes were poor souls struggling to keep their lifestyle against the imposition of their neighbor?
If this is History channel's quality and historical accuracy then HBO can claim the same with Spartacus.
I'm actually disappointed, I thought it was going to be an interesting and scientifically accurate show, instead it's just well, a show.

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The theme of the series was clearly resistance to empire. Empires are always brutal, oppressive, and exploitative. Other issues were secondary, although as I mentioned in another thread, Boudica, Gaiseric, and Attila were, in fact, depicted as cruel butchers themselves.

You seem to desire comprehensive history, an impossible achievement.

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I think there is plenty of movies & TV that portrays the Roman POV.

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Virtually all up to this point. And virtually all propagandists lies.

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There is a lot of gloating about this series. Congratulations Barbarians you are free. Lets just ignore that they set back mankind centuries, as long as they had the freedom to burn witches and live in their mud huts everything was awesome.

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They didn't set anything back.
They stopped evil from moving forward, which is always progressive.

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So when the Romans were torturing and murdering people (including Christians) for "entertainment" in their circuses, that was civilised? Riiiight.

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The world is surely waiting for a 9/11 movie with the point of view of the Islamic world. I mean all the preparation required needs some appreciation...
Rome needs to be destroyed - at least until we become Rome...

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eh I didn't get that Rome was "evil" from the series as much as they were the upper dog wanting to retain their supremacy, this doesn't make them bad or good it's just what humans tend to do.
Afterall we all know the barbarians descendants eventually formed their own dynasties, hierarchies and territories that would eventually go on to form the nations and Empires of Europe

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It is more accurate than ALL the history prior, which is brainwashing propaganda written by the victors.

You're one of the brainwashed dupes who prove it!

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Well since these boards will be closed soon I'll take this opportunity to wholeheartedly agree with you. Rome succeeded because it was the safest place to live in at the time. These revisionist shows pander to a leftist crowd I despise as much as far right conservatives. Both groups surrender reasoning and facts that do not support their pre concieved conclusions.

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Why use the word evil? Of course Rome was evil. But the human race in Europe, and pretty much all over the Mediterranean sea was evil, competitive, warlike, brutal. The terms is useless in the context that you use it. I have not seen the documentary, but I will tell you I am so tired of people being so stupid as to identify their personalities and egos with empires of the post, or books, or music, or celebrities or cars and judging others by what they praise or criticize about the things they like.

You make an argument here, but you do not back it up, or in the case of you voicing an opinion which I think is what you are doing, leave room for, and facilitate discussion.

Somehow we all in our own lifetimes seem to have that fallacy that we live at the end of history, but there is really no reason for us to think that all the broken systems in human society that we can perceive and acknowledge in the past are not going on today, i.e. with police, or health care, or politics.

The only way we can do better is to do things differently.

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