His "upcoming death" and being used as a host was wrong. His death was a direct resault of the traveler chatroom, the investigation and would not have happend if it wern't for the travelers. This is in contrast to everything we learn on the show.
Other then that, I did like the show and will continue watching.
No. He was already going to be there and die anyway, just investigating something else entirely.
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Nope. One of them saved him from dying from a fall; they talked to him - then they took over his mind (or whatever) thereby killing him.
shareThat wasn't OP's argument, not sure if you're just making your own argument, but yeah, you're not really arguing against anything I said.
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So in a time when the travellers did not exist Grant was tracking down a man who was going to go on a killing spreein that building at that time on that night. While tracking down this shooter he ends up in that building falling down the elevator shaft and dying.
The travellers were able to predict that by using their code like a terrorist cell they could get him into that same building (where he still almost fell down the elevator shaft) while subduing the guy who would have gone on the shooting spree (he's the guy in the room on the floor who it looks like they have killed)
So he's in the room and it seems the travelers theory is that they can take over a person's body (essentially wiping them out ie. Dollhouse) without any feeling like they have taken over a life because if it wasn't for their interference that person would no longer exist
The show would have made a lot more sense if EVERY death was averted in a similar fashion. Taking over someone's consciousness isn't going to fix the massive physical trauma that caused their deaths. At least with MacLaren, they insured that his body was still viable before taking over his mind. Sure, it creates a moral conundrum since they saved his life only to kill him moments later, but it makes much more sense from a narrative standpoint.
shareThe did advert each death when they intervened. The blonde girl was able to fight back instead of being beaten to death, the college kid didn't inject the drugs, the black girl kicked the father out before he got any more violent, and the fighter conceded the fight before it was too late.
shareSeriously?
The blonde girl DIED when she hit her head on the stairs.
The college kid DIED when he injected the drugs.
The black girl DIED from the first hit by her baby's father.
The fighter DIED from the kick that guy gave him.
They ALL died, but seconds before the actual death, the future time travellers jumped into their heads and took over, preventing the deaths from being successful.
No, they would have died if they continued. Carly said in a later epi that she was going to pick up a gun to defend herself, but Jeff overpowered her and the gun went off, killing her. Trevor also said that if he had continued the fight he would have died but he conceded.
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Marcy would have died when the group of
People surrounded her and beat her. Instead, New Marcy fought off the attackers.
Carly stated to the officer that she would have gone for the gun in the drawer, but he was too fast/strong. Over powered her and killed her. Instead new Carly came in and did her thing.
MacLaren was already going to the warehouse for something else (the dude that was killed when he arrived that was under the sheet). He would have fallen to his death as the guy he was there for would have pushed him. Instead al the Travelers were there -- killed that one dude, and saved Mac's life.
Trevor mentioned that the next blow would have killed him. Instead new Trevor concedes the fight and lives
I can suspend my disbelief for things like that. I feel badly the character Grant is gone because his personality was really fun! I liked him a lot...hopefully his traveler is cool ;)
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I wonder if ep 10 gave us an inkling that their prior selves might still be present in the background and that for some it can retake the lost life as the traveler becomes more assimilated in their new life. Yeah, as a PhD neurophysiologist I know this is all hocum, but as a consistent story line phenomenon I could see how the original consciousness returning could both complicate things, but also make this better down the road for the future in terms of not messing things up. Take someone like Phillip, who uses his knowledge to go off the grid but still make $B in knowing how future events play out, becoming a "Biff." Maybe Marcie's neurological complications don't kill her, but do incapacitate her back to the simpleton she was before, sort of like a Flowers for Algernon scenario. We do though have evidence from the decimated team who had been here for 15 years that they do retain the future self though some do go off-mission.
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That one "death" is a little confusing if you don't pay close attention. He was following the leads of the Travelers chat room that led him there. The thing was that in the original timeline, he was going to be going there after a terrorist and then would have fallen down the shaft during the blackout. That's why the travelers were meeting there to meet their commander when he arrived. They also took care of the terrorist that he otherwise would have been pursuing. It's understandable to miss that. Rewatch the exposition they give explaining to Grant what they are doing (which was just to explain it to the audience, since there was no reason to really tell the host what was actually going on, since he'll be gone soon anyway).
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