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The basic flaw with the premise


Its not time travel or its paradoxes.

Its TELL. There is no possible way for them in the future to know the exact time and place of death of all humanity, down to exact coordinates!

They claim they know about these people's lives from social media? As if a bunch of old people committing suicide in a cult would have active FB accounts!

99.99% of deaths aren't recorded. Those that are, by police/coroner, will say 'found in home'. Not 'found at 55m height at these lat/long' !! And we see th travelers tech needs exact coordinates to work, else we get a 'miss'.

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I know, I thought that was pretty lame too! But then I thought...

In the future who knows what they are capable of doing!? Maybe there is a readable aura of every soul who has lived on the earth. From this aura, they may be able to tell when and where the soul departed to the exact millisecond. Maybe they have built a time machine that can do this.....

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There is no possible way for them in the future to know the exact time and place of death of all humanity, down to exact coordinates!
Did you note how, in this aircrash episode, when McLaren went off mission, the Directorate was aware of this, right away, and projected a traveler into that pesky flight attendant, who was able to scream an admonition to him, before her host body died?

It is just one of the signs that the Director's minions have some kind of past-o-scope that lets them view the past.

So, they don't have to rely solely on old records to know when 21st Century people died.

Of course that introduces new wrinkles, like keeping track of the different iterations. If the original 21st Century McLaren should have died, around the end of episode 1.1, and was replaced by a Traveler, so he keeps interacting with people, solving crimes, that means that he might unknowingly interfere in the life of someone else who they planned to project a Traveler into a week, or a month later, when they died. The Traveler projected into McLaren might unknowingly cross paths with people, who don't die, and thus can't be the hosts for Travelers, after all.

And how is the Directorate able to project a Traveler into someone, like McLaren, who doesn't die of their original cause of death, after all?

Marcy was beaten to death, so being able to project a Traveler into her is explainable. Junkie-boy died of an overdose. But, McLaren doesn't fall down the shaft.

I am a materialist, and don't believe in souls. Maybe the writers are going to tell us that they do, and that a Traveler was able to project into the original 21st Century Mclaren's body because, since he was fated to die, seconds later, his soul have already been loosened, so it could be evicted.

One of the passengers on the plane was a pre-pubescent kid. Why didn't the Directorate project a Traveler into him? His body wouldn't have died immediately, like the Flight Attendant, and he could have kept admonishing the Traveler who was going off mission. Maybe a Traveler in the kid could have taken over the mission?

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You had me at

past-o-scope
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They said more then just social media, any electronic file. Which leads me to question the whole Marcy thing. You can clearly see in the episode where David gets fired that his boss pulls up old Marcy's file, which has her whole medical history including how much money she collected for her disability. Wouldn't the "Director" have found that and found it to be more of a reputable source then facebook? I mean really, we learn in school what primary sources are and what junk sources are. Not to mention everyone one knows what catfishing is. So why WOULD you even bother to get most of your info from Facebook. Made me laugh at the stupidity.

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Wouldn't the "Director" have found that and found it to be more of a reputable source then facebook?
Clearly it didn't find that. Those records must be destroyed within the next few hundred years. It can only know what it has access to. Why make baseless assumptions when clearly the show itself depicts it didn't have access to that information based on the mistake of sending the Traveler into Marcy?
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They said more then just social media, any electronic file. Which leads me to question the whole Marcy thing. You can clearly see in the episode where David gets fired that his boss pulls up old Marcy's file, which has her whole medical history including how much money she collected for her disability. Wouldn't the "Director" have found that and found it to be more of a reputable source then facebook?

Hmmm ... asteroid impact, hundreds of years of war involving antimatter explosives and other WMDs. Maybe the records aren't all complete?

What you have after that long will be incredibly comprehensive in some cases, full of holes in others. This is why the Director isn't always aware immediately when someone goes off-mission. Otherwise it would've given MacClaren's team an abort command the moment Alexander walked in the room (or tried to reach them even before they left for that house).

There is no possible way for them in the future to know the exact time and place of death of all humanity, down to exact coordinates!

They don't have this information for all of humanity. That's the reason only certain people are host candidates. Well, one of the reasons.

As if a bunch of old people committing suicide in a cult would have active FB accounts!

All you need is one or two CCD cameras in the public park to have recorded them on the pier drinking the Kool Aid (literally). Coupled with their cell phone GPS data you'd have exact date and location.

The idea of being able to transmit a human consciousness into a host brain "over the airwaves" is pretty far-fetched. But if you accept that premise, suspension of disbelief, the rest of this stuff isn't hard to explain.

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