Plotholes - Grrr


Don't get me wrong - I really enjoyed this series, but I'm enjoying it less now I've had a chance to think about it.

In the episode with the old people not being able to kill the soldiers. Then they blow everyone up anyway. And why didn't they just park the bus across the road to stop the soldiers being able to drive up to the building - hence saving vital minutes.

Also the one with aeroplane crash - why not just possess the senator before he got on the plane?

OK - I know we get lots of exciting action when we suspend disbelief but the plot does have to hang together.

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The old people and the bus thing I agree, not a plot hole. Just a stupid decision. As far as the airplane crash goes, the travelers can only take over someone's body at the moment of their death, that's why they couldn't take over his body and stop him from getting on the plane.

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They can take over anyone's body if they know the dateam, time and location. The senator would have died in the crash, and was taken over after, away from the crash. Grace would have died in the accident, but when Trevor kidnapped he stopped that and she was overwritten near the woods right after she made the phone call. Her cell gave her location and time away. The reason they overwrite people who are about to die is because they were supposed to die, and should exist from that point on. In their mind and the computers, they haven't harmed them, or ended their live, since they would have dies anyway. Making sure the senator never boarded would make a lot more sense, as the director could have overridden him at any time, as long as they have the location and theyou erased any record of him being on the flight.

I am thinking part of this may have to do with the faction and possible corruption of the director, and may be addressed in the future. After they stopped the meteor, the future changed.

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The Bishop storyline is one of the most interesting and complex. The part which bothers me though is how they would be able to wipe all records of a very recognizable public official from the manifest. Mac, sure, but a Congresscritter?

Another aspect is the relationship between mac and Kat. We are clearly at a point where future Mac and future Carly need to say their goodbyes and leave the future in the past. But we are also now flirting with protocol 4 with a possibility in season 2 of Kat being preggo, and the whole flight thing being a wake-up call to Mac that he now has feelings for her which threaten to over-ride the protocols. We were given evidence early on that the longer teams are in place, the more likely they are to deviate from the original mission objectives. The AI is likely pretty good with logical planning and progression, but there is always human nature which is the weak spot for these machines.

And finally, the machine can take over a person's mind at anytime as long as they have a TELL for that person. The reason that they choose those who have died historically is to minimize the effect on the timeline. Someone who is going to die won't be doing something amazing in the future, whereas if they took a random person they might be creating a bigger ripple by preventing that person from doing something or having children in the future. One issue that wasn't addressed but I think is relevant is that when Helios hit, it might have really disrupted future record keeping, so while they know what is going on in 2016, 2017, and some of 2018, it may be that they aren't sure of people's futures past 2018, hence they can't be sure that taking over a person who isn't going to die won't created a huge problem.

I am curious about the woman who played the Energy Secretary's wife. It almost seems like she was a traveler who was placed into a body that wasn't going to die for the purpose of knocking off her husband to change the status of the pipeline. I wonder if a scene was deleted prior to him being pushed off the bridge which referenced her miraculous avoidance of a near-death event. That cold opening just stood out as an example though of a traveller taking over someone who was possibly not a person who was going to die, and who also then deliberately took a life to achieve and agenda. I doubt I was the only one who thought that "he" was going to be the traveler, and not her. Nice twist!

The old people stuff was stupid in that pretty much everyone in a mile radius got vaporized by the blast so why risk the mission to only delay soldiers who were going to get killed anyway? I have a feeling that the original scene was a bit "too black comedy" having a bunch of geezers pin down and take out an elite fighting force, much to the chagrin of Major Ginger, so instead it was re-written to have them deliberately miss.

My Chimp DNA seems to have lost its password temporarily. Sluggr-2

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The Bishop storyline is one of the most interesting and complex. The part which bothers me though is how they would be able to wipe all records of a very recognizable public official from the manifest. Mac, sure, but a Congresscritter?
I don't think they would -- I figured he'd claim to be the guy who survived in the plane's tail section.

I am curious about the woman who played the Energy Secretary's wife. It almost seems like she was a traveler who was placed into a body that wasn't going to die for the purpose of knocking off her husband to change the status of the pipeline. I wonder if a scene was deleted prior to him being pushed off the bridge which referenced her miraculous avoidance of a near-death event. That cold opening just stood out as an example though of a traveller taking over someone who was possibly not a person who was going to die, and who also then deliberately took a life to achieve and agenda. I doubt I was the only one who thought that "he" was going to be the traveler, and not her. Nice twist!
Afterwards, I wondered if I'd missed something. I kept waiting for that murder to be tied into the plot, but as far as I could tell the only connection was that the reason Bishop was in town was to attend the guy's funeral. A completely gratuitous murder!

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It is tied into the plot. Bishop is a key vote on the pipeline and the secretary was a vocal proponent for or against it, can't remember which, but the point was that two key elements of it getting built, ot not getting built, were addressed. i think it will figure to be a plot point in season 2, perhaps the pipeline creates one of the major ecological changes.

My Chimp DNA seems to have lost its password temporarily. Sluggr-2

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The death is plot-relevant, but the guy could have died in a real accident, or of natural causes. Making it a murder is a Chekov's Gun that didn't go off that I could see. Unless that was just a red herring, intended to distract us from seeing where the real story was going?

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