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Spoilers - Episode three, another swing and another miss.


The show so far tends to be flat and boring. John Faa's "rousing speech" to the Gyptians was formulaic and unconvincing. And the desperate attempt to pump it up with increasing volume, swelling music and foot stomping didn't work. And Lyra's little speech to the Gyptians was in tone more like a reminder to put the bins out on rubbish night.

I haven't seen Dafne Keen in anything else but I thought she had a reputation for being a talented actress. Judging by her performance so far I can't see it. She seems to have a limited repertoire of looks that she uses over and over. Smiley face, glowering face, pouty face and blank face. Lyra is supposed to be a very animated girl, a charmer with the gift of the gab. Able to get people to do what she wants by her quick wits and the sheer force of her personality. Dafne Keen's Lyra so far is not close to being that girl and of course at fourteen she is three years older than book Lyra which doesn't help.

The other big problem is the casting more generally. The only characters I care about are James Cosmo's Farder Coram ( Fart A Quorum ) who seems real and genuine and Ruth Wilson's Marisa Coulter. And that's only because it's Ruth not because I'm enjoying watching a nutty as a fruitcake Mrs Coulter. When the boy falls backward down the lift shaft to his death who cares, who is he ? When Boreal crosses over to presumably our world who cares ? Dafne Keen isn't cutting it as Lyra and her little friend Roger is the kind of kid you'd slap on the side of the head rather than travel all the way to the frozen north to rescue.

I will continue to watch it and hope for the best. But then that's what I did with ' Sharp Objects ' and what a mistake that turned out to be...




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Stop watching and stop complaining, i’ve read all the books and it was mint.

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God this board is dead, and my back hurts. At least I can look forward to the next episode so I can criticize it as well...

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I started this board

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What do you want, a medal !?

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A modicum of gratitude wouldn’t be out of line here. Hope your back heals soon.

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Yeah well it seems to me that I'm the one who is actually putting in an effort here. I have something to say about the show and I talk about details instead of just saying it was "mint".


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Well the thing is I REALLY believe it will pick up some starting next week. I'm excited! We know from the trailers that they meet the bears & Scorsby & probably the witches in the next episode.

The only downer is the guy who plays Scorsby, I mean judging from his few seconds in the trailers, the guy makes me cringe. His voice! No presence or command whatsoever, I mean what were they thinking casting this guy?

I'm not saying cast a down home yokel in the role but hearing this guy speak even for a few seconds makes me throw up a little in my mouth. This is bad. Very bad.

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Lin-Manuel Miranda has obviously been cast to tick off the politically correct 'ethnic diversity' box. Same thing for Dafne Keen ( half Spanish ) and the United Nations Gyptians.

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All you do is swing and post and miss. 80% rottentomatoes, the majority like this series. So stop crying.

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All you do is engage in personal attacks and unlike me you never actually talk about the program other than to say that "everybody loves it" and it's "mint".


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How’s it feel to be in the minority? No wonder you keep ranting. If you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything.

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Personal attacks. The go to strategy of people who can't win arguments and resort to dirty tactics instead.

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No personal attacks. Unless me posting the review scores hurt you to the core.

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"Never argue with an idiot. They will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - George Carlin

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You know you’ve lost when you get a dead guy arguing for you.

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These responses are copied and pasted straight out of the professional trolls cheat sheet. I've seen hundreds of you bastards from the old IMDb boards and it's uncanny how exactly the same you all are.


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You started that fire, didn't you? The French police have a warrant out for your hunchback ass! 😎

Did you ever find another medieval attic to move into?

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I have to disagree about Dafne Keen, I believe she is a talented actress. She may not be the perfect choice to play Lyra, but I believe she is playing the part well. As the series progresses and she becomes more familiar with the role, maybe Dafne will evolve into the Lyra that you’re hoping to see.

I’m really enjoying the show so far and Mrs Coulter is definitely one of my favorite characters. Mrs Colter is so evil, but Ruth Wilson makes her likable in a sinister kind of way.

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