the lady is RICH - Search Party (2016) Discussion

[–] boredandalone 8 years ago

I can see it... what she really seems to want is her husband to be around. And/or to have friends. At some point, she's probably been to a lot of places and seen everything she wants to see. She wants what money can't buy.

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

And what's preventing her from going out and making some friends?

Nah, her loneliness is on her.

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[–] boredandalone 8 years ago

Yep, it's on her, but I see how it would happen.

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

I wanted to add: it's not possible to see everything you ever wanted to see. Not if you have interests. If you have the least bit of curiosity about the world, your entire life will not be enough to see everything. If she doesn't want anything and is not interested in anything, that's a state of depression that she needs to deal with.

It's just that looking at it from a lower middle class perspective like mine, it seems her problems are entirely self-imposed.

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[–] suvrmart 8 years ago

Money can't buy self-worth and self-confidence. She could be doing a lot of things-sure. Your sense of naivete is astounding. Depression is not a corollary to a lack of curiosity. Fewer than 25% of people in the U.S. have passports. Lots of people aren't interested in leaving their counties. Imposing your social reality on someone- even a fictional wealthy wife who lives on the UES- isn't very fair.

You should be so proud of yourself that you know exactly who you are and are so sure of what you would do if you had someone else's blessings. Congrats. Live a bit longer and you may not be able to be so absolute.

If you watch the ninth episode, she says Dory should prioritize marriage. Even knowing her husband's not around, either working or cheating, she only sees her worth through her relationship to him. You may believe it's on her, but the idea that women could and should do what they want to do, have agency, work, treat themselves, travel, have credit and buy their own homes is a very new and revolutionary one.

Look at the 2016 U.S. elections if you don't believe it. A lot of people think women should just be husband-adjacent (including some women themselves).

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

First of all, "sense of naivete" is not the correct way to use that word.

What's astounding is your lack of self-awareness, if everything you wrote is how you truly think.

Also not sure what history has to do with this - we are discussing reality as it is today, not in the 1950's. And this woman has far more opportunities and doors open to her than most.

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[–] suvrmart 8 years ago

Are you sure we've come that far from the 1950s? Someone just got elected to the U.S. presidency and his only policy is to make America great again.

Who sewed that electoral college victory up for him? GenX and Baby Boomer white women.

Internalized oppression is what I'm trying to wake people up to now. However, I'm not naive enough to believe there are tens of millions of feminists walking around the country fighting with me.

I've been blessed enough to be a world-traveller since I was a young child. Tickets to Barcelona and Madrid are between $389 and $429 right now for the spring. Go experience the world and start in Spain. The first time I went, I went by myself. Those are extremely reasonable prices. Stop talking and do.

And if you wanted to see the Lion King, there was always TKTS.

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

And why are you so sure I don't experience the world?? I take several trips a year!

The Lion King tickets are never on sale, but maybe I'll check TKTS one day. I don't like the idea of waiting however long in line there.

Again, though, that doesn't mean I don't go to the theater. I am a member of TDF, I see performances frequently. It's just that I can easily see ten different plays for the price of one ticket to The Lion King.

You have a way of misreading things.

My point from the start was that many of us manage to do stuff with much more limited finances, and she doesn't even have any budget constraints to worry about. There is literally no excuse for having such a boring life.

It's ironic, btw, that you tell me to "stop talking and do", even though I am not complaining that I have nothing to do (or don't know what to do with my time), yet you are sympathetic to this character.

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[–] Kewl_Kat 8 years ago

Dory's rich boss is a TV character. She isn't real. She acted the way she did because a writer made her that way. That's all we can tell you. But if you think wealthy people can't fall victim to depression, you are kinda dopey... especially middle aged women. Looks fade, attention you used to get evaporates and if you don't have things that you are passionate about in life, then depression will inevitably set in. Why do you think drug addiction and alcoholism are so common? Come on.

I'm a real kewl kat.🐈

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[–] boredandalone 8 years ago

As a working class person, I always find it amusing with middle and upper middle class people try to outdo each other in terms of cultural experiences. Oh gee guys, I didn't see the Lion King, but I've got plenty of shows under my belt. Oh gee, don't forget I'm a world traveler too. What reality do you guys live in? These are your problems?

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

You really don't get the point I was trying to make from the start, do you? I am saying, I am able to have a more interesting life, or make plans for the evening on the spur of the moment, even though I am on a pretty limited budget.

Some self-righteous person above started feeling sorry for me and pointing out that I can still afford to do stuff, which was really not what I was saying at all. That was why I responded the way I did. I didn't do it to brag or anything.

I still say that there is no reason for this woman to be so pathetic. The poster above was correct in saying that she is only a supplement to her husband and does not have an identity of her own, but then whose fault is that?

In a city like New York there are always a million different things you could do on any given day or night (and unlike me, she lives within walking distance of many of them), there is simply no excuse.

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[–] boredandalone 8 years ago

It's her luxury in life to be so pathetic... lady has no struggle.

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[–] boredandalone 8 years ago

Where are these tickets for barcelona that cheap?

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[–] SoThisIsSquirrelPudding 8 years ago

suvrmart you are a truly one miserable human ?

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[–] boredandalone 8 years ago

Wow... this thread devolved quickly...

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[–] natedaug-654-143634 8 years ago

Money doesn't equal happiness. There are a lot of rich people that are depressed. The character is cliche. It occurs often in real life and in fiction. Your statement embodies the shows satirical depiction of clueless millenials. If that was the intent, bravo, well done.

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

I am a bit too old to be considered a millennial - that's one.

And two: where was I speaking about happiness, exactly?? I was talking about loneliness and boredom. It is simply impossible to have nothing to do!

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[–] natedaug-654-143634 8 years ago

Whether you are a millenial or not has no bearing, I was speaking about your post being an embodiment of millenials not you actually being one. Not that there is anything wrong with it.

Two. I feel like you're splitting hairs over me interpretating being bored and lonely as being unhappy. She was clearly depressed. I took you statement as having almost zero understanding of depression or mental illnesses or just general illogical feelings of sadness. Everyone's mind works in mysterious ways.

As I said in my previous comment she is clearly a cliche depressed rich person and I feel the statement "she is rich, how could she be bored" represents the satirical millenial, shallow and self absorbed voice the show was targeting. The very same hallmark theme of the season.

That is my interpretation of your post but certainly not you. Peace.

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

I did also say somewhere above that if she is truly not interested in anything, she is depressed.

Anyway, not sure why the point I initially made brought out such animus in you, or why you are disputing my right to make it. If anything, her affluence makes her much more equipped than most to tackle depression as well.

I have plenty of understanding of depression, and have experienced it firsthand. I've lived through extreme poverty, divorce and loss of employment. Which is why I am saying there is simply no excuse. I stand by what I said.

FWIW, Gail does not seem truly depressed to me, she just seems to lack purpose or direction in her life.

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[–] Kewl_Kat 8 years ago

I've lived through extreme poverty, divorce and loss of employment.

You are also extremely annoying.

I'm a real kewl kat.🐈

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

I suppose you are even more annoying, then. At least I am not as unpleasant as to tell people they are annoying.

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[–] Kewl_Kat 8 years ago

I suppose you are even more annoying, then. At least I am not as unpleasant as to tell people they are annoying.

You just called me annoying and in the very next sentence said you don't tell people they are annoying. So you are a liar. That's another reason why you are annoying.

I'm a real kewl kat.🐈

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

Lol, I obviously meant that I am not as uncouth as to go around saying this to random people, especially in response to valid points.

If anything, the fact that you have nothing to respond with but an insult in and of itself implies that you have nothing to say.

Anyway, kindly exit my topic. You obviously have nothing of any value or substance to contribute.

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[–] Kewl_Kat 8 years ago

Anyway, kindly exit my topic

Thanks but I prefer to stay.

I'm a real kewl kat.🐈

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[–] natedaug-654-143634 8 years ago

Hahaha that one was a real mind bender. I think maybe, exatera, is perhaps, quite possibly, really a master ironic hipster troll. Think about it.

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[–] Kewl_Kat 8 years ago

I think maybe, exatera, is perhaps, quite possibly, really a master ironic hipster troll.

Yeah maybe... or just really, really stupid.

I'm a real kewl kat.🐈

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

If I am so stupid, the why do you keep wasting your precious time on my threads?

Just get the F out of here, I couldn't care less what a lowlife like you thinks, about me or anything else.

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[–] Kewl_Kat 8 years ago

If I am so stupid, the why do you keep wasting your precious time on my threads?

My school's football team is getting crushed (again), my family from out of town has gone home and I am bored. This is usually a bad time for dummies on message boards because I direct my disgust towards them. It's tough being a smart person in a world full of dummies. Good news for you, though... I'm gonna watch the movie Auto Focus now. So I will be offline for a couple hours.

I'm a real kewl kat.🐈

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

Oh, right, I am the dummy in this scenario. Thanks, I needed a laugh. 

You are so pathetic, I don't know how you live with yourself.

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[–] Kewl_Kat 8 years ago

You are so pathetic

If you were really laughing like you just claimed, you wouldn't immediately spew venom with childish name-calling. You've hit a new low.

I'm a real kewl kat.🐈

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

Oh my god, you really have nothing better to do than this petty harassment, don't you?

I won't acknowledge you anymore. Knock yourself out.

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[–] Kewl_Kat 8 years ago

Oh my god

Oh so now you are taking our Lord's name in vain. You really are a monster, huh? A big, stupid monster.

I'm a real kewl kat.🐈

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

That was uncalled for, don't you think?

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[–] Kewl_Kat 8 years ago

Grow a spine.

I'm a real kewl kat.🐈

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

That was between me and another poster, who offered me "peace and love" in a later comment. Nothing to do with you.

Get a life, nobody cares what you think here anyway.

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[–] davidadams-04768 8 years ago

You said it, Gail lacks purpose and direction. She has the means but not the notion of how to attain what she desires. Rich or not, Gail is the embodiment of the clichéd bored housewife.

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[–] natedaug-654-143634 8 years ago

I offer no animosity, but I did offer peace in my last comment and let me toss in a little love now. I wish peace and love on you. I never once tried to dispute your right to make your post. That is being silly. Honestly, your post just seemed so shallow, clueless and self absorbed that I did question your sincerity and hoped it was some perfect ironic statement. It sounded like something Elliot would say. Just to clarify this is my opinion of your post and not about you as a person.

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[–] exatera 8 years ago

Well, if that's still your opinion of my post after everything I said here, and all the explanations I have offered, there is really nothing I can do.

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[–] blacknyellowsquid 8 years ago

I was talking about loneliness and boredom. It is simply impossible to have nothing to do!

But yeah, if you're lonely and depressed, you might just end up lying around doing nothing. Even if you have a lot of wealth. I mean yeah, if everyone was rich it probably would be awesome to travel around the world. But even that might become "blasé" eventually if at core you feel empty and unfulfilled (usually socially or whatever). Maybe she'd be able to "buy" friends and company but that's not real either.

She was supposed to be a kind of pathetic person with an empty life in spite of her riches. But I can see that someone who has to struggle even to afford dinner might roll their eyes at her plight. At the same time, having zero purpose or relevance to society or motivation/need to do anything might make you depressed too in addition to feeling alone.

I think she should have started volunteering or something to add some sense of importance to her life.

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[–] boredandalone 8 years ago

But I totally agree, people with that level of money should never be bored. And if you're so bored, you can always donate some of the money (& your time to help a worthy cause).

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[–] aldown 8 years ago

Maybe she doesn't like travelling, or she thinks travelling is too much hassle. Maybe she is afraid of flying or has no one to travel with. Maybe she has no friends and all the friends she had are now all busy and married and have work to do. Maybe she is shy or doesn't like other NY wealthy house wives. Maybe she is an introvert and prefers being by herself most of the time. Maybe she has social anxiety. Maybe she feels too old. Maybe she cares too much what other people think. Maybe she suffers from depression. Maybe she makes crazy plans once or twice a week because she doesn't like to go out everyday but we didn't saw it because the show doesn't focus on her. Maybe she is old enough to have done and seen everything she ever wanted, or maybe she has came to the realization that every trip and plan she has made over the last few years feel all the same and didn't fulfil her like she was expecting so she just gave up? Maybe she has been so wealthy all her life that nothing amuses her anymore and she just feels constantly dead and empty on the inside and just longing for love. Maybe all she wanted to do was be a mother so she feels unfulfilled all the time.

It could be any of too many things, you know? Anything can get old after a while. I mean, do you think a stewardess still wants to go on a weekend trip to Bahamas after 10 years of flying when she has down time? Do you think a gynecologist still gets exited about a vagina after 20 years?

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