Why Eleanor didn't write.......
"ELEANOR THIS ISN'T THE GOOD PLACE. IT'S THE BAD PLACE AND MICHAEL IS A FAKE!!! ALL PEOPLE ARE ACTORS LIKE THE TRUMAN SHOW, JUST FOR YOU AND 3 OTHER PEOPLE, CHIDI, TAHANI AND JIANYU."
Just saying !!!
Why? Well to be fair Eleanor isn't exactly what most people would call smart.
Besides she did have ten seconds to write and hide it.
I think Eleanor's goal is to figure it out again, but in a way where they don't blow their cover. If she sorts it out too quickly, Michael will suspect something is up and re-boot them again, so she gave herself enough of a clue, but not too much info to blow their cover.
My Chimp DNA seems to have lost its password temporarily. Sluggr-2
Good point.
shareWell, she was the one that figured it all out.
shareTrue, still I'm not saying she's brainless, just not especially smart.
Or rather she's never really made the effort to apply herself before.
She is extremely smart. She figured out a lot of things and it shows in the way speaks
Jason on the other side is dumb as a doornail.
Cosmos hates Google.
She is extremely smart. She figured out a lot of things and it shows in the way speaksShe certainly is. Chidi -- with his PhD still couldn't have figured things out as well as Eleanor.
She is extremely smart. She figured out a lot of things and it shows in the way speaks
Jason on the other side is dumb as a doornail.
Then Michael walks in as you're writing it and you can't hide it inside Janet's mouth. You are now stuck in Hell with no memory of prior events.
"The plastic tips at the end of shoelaces are called aglets. Their true purpose is sinister."
The concern was that Michael would come back at any moment. So she wrote the bare minimum in order to ensure that some helpful directive was given to Janet quickly rather than chance getting caught in the act.
shareGreat point, I thought of that too.
Find Chidi means nothing. Even when she 'll find him.
The poster who said about the message to be short.
Then She should have written ANY of the following.
- This is all a con.
- This is the bad place.
- Michael is Evil.
and so on!
Cosmos hates Google.
But writing something like that may not be as helpful as you'd think.
What is she supposed to do with the information; "Michael Is Evil"? She can't march up to him and start accusing him, as he'd know she knew and immediately wipe her memory again. It gives Eleanor no advantage.
And after the reboot Eleanor had no memory of her previous life in "The Good Place". As far as she knew, she was in paradise surrounded by the best people in existence. She wouldn't know that there were only three other people that she could trust. (Four if you count Janet.) What if she had looked to confide in the wrong person and told one of the demons her concerns about Michael's trustworthy? She'd have been reported. Boom. Her memory wiped again.
This show constantly painted the four characters as being stronger as a collective. So, as she only had limited time to write something down, "Find Chidi" is actually a good solution. She wouldn't know what it meant at first, but should she ever encountered Chidi, it would at least her know he was important. Eleanor has got literally all the time in the world, and she worked out that it was The Bad Place with the help from her friends previously. Better have some subtle clue like that, than something blatant that could mean she harms herself before she knows what to do with the information.
Also, the look of confusion after Eleanor's face after reading the note and noticing that Janet had vanished made a better cliffhanger at the end of season one than her being presented with the correct answer straight away.
Probably she did, but Michael found out and changed it.
shareBecause unlike you, she had like what? 10 seconds to do it and not know if Michael would be back at any moment (which he did). Heck, those 10 seconds were wasted on just the idea of the note and looking for something to write with.
Heck, Elanor even says she doesn't know what to write in the very little time she has. She went with first instinct here.
Because unlike you, she had like what? 10 seconds to do it and not know if Michael would be back at any moment (which he did).
I think it's the relationship with Chidi that's the real key to her happiness. Not in a romantic way, mind you, but as she told him, "I was dropped into a cave and you were my flashlight."
She knows she's about to be dropped into a cave again and she needs the flashlight. Merely knowing she was in hell without Chidi there to help her would be no help at all. In fact, it would be even worse because you wouldn't even have the illusion of being in paradise -- you'd know you were in hell with no solution. Chidi is the solution even if Eleanor doesn't yet know what the problem is.
Sorry but "find Chidi" in what end?
What she/they supposed to gain from all that.
THEY ARE DEAD and in HELL.
There is no way they can beat that.
It's GAME OVER.
In the worst case scenario, Michael is demoted and they go to the original version of Hell, with the torturing.
But shirtless mailman guy!!!!!!
shareBecause she needs to find Chidi first so that they can evolve into the sort of people who deserve to escape from the bad place. If you recall, Chidi was teaching Eleanor how to be ethical, and Eleanor was teaching Chidi how to have faith in himself...
If she gives away the twist in the note, all that will accomplish is realizing she's trapped in hell.
I don't think there is an option to escape.
shareThere is The Middle Place. In the first episode Eleanor told Chidi that's were people like her (them) belong anyway. (People who aren't evil, just really suck as follow human beings)
shareIf that was the case then 99% of the people would be in the Middle place, and only terrible criminals and saints would go in the bad and the good place respectively.
The judgment is about their lifetime and it ended. There is no escape or "No Exit" as one of the English translations of the original play from which The Good place "borrowed" its premise.
I think that it is made clear from the calm "reboot" by Michael.
"Oh yeah you figured it out. Next time I would do better!"
If it wasn't for Shawn I would say that this will be ab endless torture of continuous reboots.
But Shawn made it clear that this is just a second and last chance for Michael. What happens if it fails? I too believe that Michael will be dethroned from "Architect" and the 4 souls would go the lava-version of Hell!
Cosmos hates Google.
But it could be argued they already escaped from the bad place. Eleanor, Jason, and Janet made it to the middle place and had to be lured back with idle threats. It seems it might have a no extradition policy?
It could also be argued that Mindy escaped from the bad place. She's a cokehead who probably didn't do a good deed her entire life. Sure, she had an idea for a good deed, and wrote it down, and took the first steps, but didn't live to see it become a reality. She made the world a much better place but never became a better person. Even in the afterlife she's still craving coke.
I think the middle place is the promised land our five castaways need to escape to. It's not paradise, but I don't think paradise would be a good place for them.
Except we have no idea if that's true or not. Remember, this is the "good place" and "bad place". They don't use the words "Heaven" or "Hell".
For all we know, this may not be based on the christian version at all.
There are some religions that tell you that "the bad place" is where you stay until you learn your learn, or basically like real world jails you get to stay there based on how evil you were - but not forever.
It's possible people can evolve and learn from their mistakes and eventually turn from bad to less bad if not eventually good. At which point, whomever runs the place may or may not decide to let them go.
I mean if the show would have a definitive end, it would be either Elanor making it to a better place (good or medium) or if they want the other way around, she's going to be a new Michael and torture people. Either way, she won't stay there forever.