And I think it sold the characters out just to get a "cool" twist in. I know going ahead S2 will end up getting more jokes and humor from the new status quo, but it literally made no sense, and killed Michael as a character who was sort of my favorite. And honestly, except for some minor stress and fighting, it didn't really seem like "hell" to me or that these people were so bad that they deserved to be tortured for eternity.
shareIt was all set up. I was thinking this was Eleanor's "Medium Place," since pretty early on... and it still could be. But if we take it as stated at present, that's even funnier.
The show played fair with us, plenty of clues were there. What the characters were told never did add up. Now that we have this season's conclusion, we know that wasn't sloppiness, it was very purposeful and in pretty deep detail.
I'm sorry but if you think it's a retcon, or that this reveal is all there is to it, you haven't been paying attention.
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Zit wasn't a retcon. It is an unreliable narrator
shareThat's not a what retcon is. I'm pretty sure the writers had the twist in mind since the conception of the show.
A retcon is more like an actress wants to leave a TV show, so they have her character die in a car crash. The show gives her a teary funeral.
2 seasons later the actress wants to come back to the show so they explain that the character was saved from the wreck and nursed back to health somewhere secret. She's been in hiding ever since.
If they had the twist planned the entire time and everything was building up to that, it's not a retcon.
And I think it sold the characters out just to get a "cool" twist in.
killed Michael as a character who was sort of my favorite.
And honestly, except for some minor stress and fighting, it didn't really seem like "hell" to me or that these people were so bad that they deserved to be tortured for eternity.
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killed Michael as a character who was sort of my favorite.
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Wait to see how his character will be in season 2 before you say "he's ruined!"
It is actually the exact OPPOSITE of retcon.
This was meticulously planned from day 1.
This is no more a retcon than The Prisoner. The twist was hardwired into the entire storyline. The hints were all there from the beginning.
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The clues are in the first two episodes.
Nobody exists on purpose. Nobody belongs anywhere. Everybody's gonna die. ...Come watch TV?
Come on, there where threads here about how "miserable" the good place is, who everyone seems to hate Eleanor for minor things etc. It was a nice written, play on words, a tad surprising twist. Especially Michael acted his part well. It played with expectations, that hell must be such a terror place, that this is, at least sunny.
The real good place should be far above things like giving the one girl a small tiny house with everything she hates, while the neighbor girl has a 50 room villa?
They played me, more than a little, and I applaud them. A retcon would be, that Michael was good all the time and got switched by a devil or something to make a broken storyline work. But this is not happening here. No need to destroy Vulcan.