Henry Cavill--SPOILERS


Henry Cavill is badASS in this movie! In a way, it's a breakout role for him. He has more charisma and screen presence in this movie, and he really comes across as someone who could do some severe damage. One of the best scenes in the movie is the close-quarters, bathroom fight scene. And Cavill came across as actually knowing how to brawl. When he takes his jacket off and pumps his fists, moving in to throw some haymakers.....eff yes! I wish his character could be in more MI movies. He was one of the best parts of this one.

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I saw an interview where he said that dual fist cock thing wasn't scripted. It just sort of came out of him during one take, and that's the one take they went with for the film and ALL the trailers.

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That's awesome. I love that it was an organic move. One of the best scenes in the movie, no doubt.

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Agreed ... especially after seeing him in interviews, he seems underrated. It's like the Superman thing hurt him more than helped

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Superman seems to have a way of killing careers, or at least holding guys down in the doldrums.

Christopher Reeve. . . Dean Cain. . . Brandon Routh. . .

What great success did any of these guys go onto? You could of course argue that they didn't have the talent to become A-listers in the first place and lucked out even getting to play Superman, but the point remains that Superman just does not seem to catapult the careers of the actors who play him.

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But were any of these famous before starring as Superman? Cavill was in a hit TV show The Tudors before Man of Steel.

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Not to my knowledge, but you would think that Superman would be a star-making role and it would catapult then on to real careers.

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Wow did not know that, I believe that this move will be redone by fans similar to the sunglasses throw on IM: II.

At least I know I will.

Loved Cavil in this film and I would´ve hoped for him to survive to become Hunt´s new nemesis.

I feel like Tom Cruise hardly let you down, a true action star.

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breakout role?
isn't this guy superman already
?

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LOL, yes. That's why I prefaced with "In a way" it's like his breakout role. He's been Superman, with mixed reviews from audiences and filmgoers....some saying he's kinda bland. But In MI: Fallout, he shows a whole new screen presence that will wake people up. And to anyone who used to say he didn't seem big enough to be Superman, he seems enormous and menacing in this movie. He really nails it.

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And to anyone who used to say he didn't seem big enough to be Superman, he seems enormous and menacing in this movie. He really nails it.


Hopefully, Henry Cavill's role in this movie will convince the studio heads to greenlight MOS 2!

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Yes!! I want to see MOS 2!

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My mind cannot fathom what kind of lowest common denominator simpleton would not only enjoy MoS but want Mos 2 as well. Yeesh.

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I LOVE his Superman. I actually liked MOS, BvS, and JL. LOL! Guess I'm weird that way. Henry Cavill is so ridiculously handsome. He is the perfect Superman, IMO.

He was also really good in this movie. I hated him (which was intended). He was a good adversary for Ethan.

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WAS...Warner/DC in their "infinite" wisdom are unloading him. Probably in favor of a lower-priced Millennial.

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I'll agree that it was a really good role for him.

For whatever reason, as Superman, I have always felt like he's lacked a certain charisma. It's hard to put my finger on why exactly, but he just doesn't have a lot of energy.

He was great in MI - Fallout though. He has a lot of screen presence, like you say, and he really sold the action. That mustache works for him, too!

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Agreed. And it's odd, because he plays Superman pretty much the way Superman is written--a straight shooter, not silly or cocky, etc. I think part of why he didn't shine in that role is....the Superman outfit, with cape, etc. Don't get me wrong, it's an iconic superhero costume. But there's no way around it looking...comic-bookish. In MI: Fallout, he wears tailored suits and looks more GQ-ish, which works really well for him. In fact, given his natural English accent, a strong argument could be made for him as the next Bond. The bathroom fight scene...straight-up won him a lot of points.

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Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what kind of impact this has on his career.

I thought he came across well as a villainous character and wonder if maybe playing villains is something he should've been doing all along.

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He's a pretty good Superman, despite the atrocious movies and pathetic costume they gave him.
He was also amazing in The Man From U.N.C.L.E. - after this movie, I can't imagine him not being Bond.
He was great in MI: Fallout and I was really sad how his story turned out. I kept wishing till the end that it wasn't so...oh well.

All in all, he's a pretty good actor and actually was a badass in this movie and he needs to be allowed to unleash a bit more. He can really wreak havoc tbh. I hope he gets some great action movie roles along with good nuanced roles. And he should let his hair grow bit more in Superman instead of a semi bald look they like to give him needlessly.

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After UNCLE I was really trully hoping for an Archer movie with him as archer and Hammer as Barry, would be awesome.

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Agreed...

In fact he was probably the best thing about this movie. He was quite a formidable adversary for Ethan Hunt mentally and physically. He really came across as ruthless and calculated, and someone who could actually beat Hunt in a fight

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I can't believe he's going to lose out to Idris Elba as the next Bond. I'm guessing it's for 2 reasons, mainly:

1) The producers don't want a Bond who is also playing Superman at the same time.

2) ALso...they figure, the African American audience really CAN carry a movie over the $500 Million mark. The producers saw what happened with Black Panther...and figured the same could happen with the next Bond films. With Black Panther, the filmmakers knew the general comic book movie fans would turn out, regardless. But by having a mainly black cast, it would ALSO bring out the African American audience, big time.....opening up an entirely untapped audience segment. And it worked. The Bond producers took notice.

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I think Daniel Craig's last movie Bond 25 will be out in the fall of next year, afterwards there will probably be another 2-3 year wait period before a new Bond movie debuts. Idris Elba is currently 45 and would be almost 50 when his new Bond debuts. He could still make 3 bond movies from 49-55+ Tom Cruise is still a very believable action star at 55, but they would get a lot more shelf life out of Henry Cavil. He is only 35 right now and could go on to make 6 Bond movies easily.

Cavil is pretty much done playing Superman. Justice League bombed and there will most likely not be a sequel. A man of Steel 2 is rumored, but not confirmed. Even if he made Man of Steel 2 that would be it and he could go on to play Bond. Also Elba playing Bond is not officially confirmed at this point.

Also the fact Elba is black won't make much of a difference. One black man with a British accent is not going to draw in a huge African American audience like Black Panther did. Black Panther had virtually an all black cast, with a black theme, and was set in Africa.

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You think? I think it will, just from the uniqueness of a black man playing the iconically white British 007 superspy role.

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The iconically white British 007 superspy who happens to attract a generally over 30 white audience. I'm not suggesting a black Bond won't bring a more black audience, but just not in record numbers like The Black Panther did.

I'll put out the Equalizer an example, the black audience accounted for about 30% of ticket sales. If you replaced Denzel Washington with Liam Neeson then a black audience would probably account for about 10% of all ticket sales.

That being said it's safe to say casting Idris Elba as Bond would increase ticket sales by 20-30% however a Black Bond may not sit well with some white fans, who might sit it out, and bring that 20-30% profit even lower as a result

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I agree. I think that will be an interesting facet to watch should Idris inherit the role. If and how much any boycott from white audiences might affect box office sales.

My past intuitive guess is that it wouldn't be significant if it's a good movie, but I've seen enough people complain on this site about this type of thing that I really have no good guess one way or the other.

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My guess is....this was primarily a money decision. It is SUCH an iconic...and SYMBOLIC role, it would be a huge statement to the AA community to get this. When BP came out, there was a huge push....essentially a movement, in which parents made a point of taking their kids....teachers made a point of taking their classes....movie stars rented out entire theaters so AA kids in poor areas could go....because AA wanted kids to see a cast of AA in positive, heroic roles, leading a movie. The role of Bond has always been a similar goal....a benchmark. It would be a huge win and I think the rejoicing would be almost as big as with BP. It will be on the cover of Time. (BTW....I don't blame the AA community one bit for celebrating these things in such a way. Who wouldn't?) BP was a great movie, and the cast did a great job. Likewise, I think Idris would make a good Bond. But I still think Cavil would be better. He won me over in Mission Impossible.

I also think the current producers of the Bond films (one of them is the daughter of the original Bond producer, "Cubby" Broccoli) are caught-up in current social trends and movements. You can tell by the language they use: "It's time for diversity in the Bond role."...or something to that effect. I wouldn't be surprised to see a female Bond in my lifetime. Spielberg is even talking about a female heir apparent for Indiana Jones. The times...they are a changin'......

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Elba as Bond would be an amazingly bad casting decision. Would much rather see him play another spy with the same vibe/skillset, than someone who, from conception to Every incarnation, is completely different. Never understood the mindset of "let's change one of the most fundamental aspects of the character." There's really no good reason.

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I agree. Sometimes, when a producer (like Barbara Broccoli) says something like: "It's time...for diversity in the Bond role", I say: Really? Why? Is it also "time" for an Albanian Superman? How about a Pakistani Wonder Woman? How about a white Shaft and a black Santa Clause?

Why not just create new, dynamic and original characters and superheros who happen to be diverse and ethnic....rather than ALTERING the ethnicity of an established character, simply to to be a SJW?

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he is a very wooden actor

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Well, it's always interesting when an actor is called "wooden". Clint Eastwood was often called that. When really.....he simply played a lot of stoic characters....who happened to be...."wooden". You'd go to Clint for a quiet, stoic cowboy role....not Nathan Lane. Conversely, if you needed a loud, goofy and flamboyant character, you more likely go with Nathan than Clint.

With Henry Cavil, he has been somewhat handcuffed to quiet, stoic roles (like Superman). Plus, much has to do with how he is DIRECTED to play the character. If you watch some YouTube videos of recent interviews (for example, check out his recent appearance on Jimmy Kimmel), he is actually quite charming, and has a great sense of humor. He just needs more roles that show that off. Besides.....the character of Bond has typically been a cool, low-key character, not loud and full of personality, if you really think about it. The important thing is that he's cool, charming and looks like a capable spy/assassin. And Henry showed us he can pull that off, in Man from U.N.C.L.E.

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And Henry showed us he can pull that off, in Man from U.N.C.L.E.

^^^couldnt disagree more

Henry Cavill in UNCLE is IMO one of the worst Miscasts and performances in Hollywood history....

but I do admit, audiences are strangely split on Cavill in UNCLE....your not the only one Ive seen say he was great in the movie....oddly, audiences are coming away spilt that hes either awful or Great in the role

I felt he was AWFUL, Literally Painful to watch....

I LOVED Cavill in MOS....but thought he was bad in BvS and JL(I blame that on Snyder though)

I thought Cavil was bad in "Immortals"....and Truly was Beyond Awful in "A Cold Light Of day"(The level of awfulness in this role is almost beyond description)

for me, I think theres enough evidence to conclude Cavill is not a great actor and needs specific roles....But as always, its just my opinion

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I must say I really enjoyed Cavil in this role...although His acting still wasnt great IMO....what I truly loved about him in the role was his Physicality in The role, the way he walks, fights and moves....His Build, His frame every thing about him makes him very intimating in the movie and the role, I do agree this is the best Role/performance he's has in a movie....

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I liked him in Superman, but I agree this role suited him better.

I think the reason is that he works better as a dark character. He looks more like a villain than a hero. He could also be an anti-hero a la Punisher.

Superman was, perhaps, too light for him.

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Yes, I liked his take on Superman. But I don't think the masses like the dark and brooding approach the director's gave the character. It worked for Christian Bale's Batman, so it was worth a try with the Superman reboot. In any case, I think Henry has outgrown the role. I really hope he gets a second look for Bond. He has a very strong screen presence. And having seen him in interviews, he has a great, likable charm...which just needs to be brought out in the right role. Check him out in his recent interview on Jimmy Kimmel. This guy should be a huge star.

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