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Just a few random thoughts and questions

posted 4 years ago by johnral (138)
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I liked this movie. It was fast-paced and interesting and well-acted etc. No major plot-problems. I don't have any major problems with the overall movie, but here are a few things that seemed a bit odd.
1. I Those masks used in the bank robbery were pretty good. Are masks that good readily available? Seems like they should have kept them, both because the masks are just good, and also for evidence reasons (e.g. likely some hairs in there). Also the masks were right beside that door knob he opened; easy fingerprints.
2. They took a little time in the alley to change clothes. Then they had some time in the car. Much of the robbery was well-planned. Seems odd they would not have looked for a dye-pack. Very easy. If Connie knew how much to ask for, then seems he would have thought about dye-pack.
3. Would the cop have really stopped the two guys walking down the street? Neither their clothes nor their race matched the bank-robbers. Two dudes walking down a street would not seem too odd.Are they gonna stop every pair of dudes in the 5 block radius?
4. It seems that Connie would have known it was risky to take Nick on the heist. It was Nick's panicking that really caused the problems. Connie would have known Nick's limitations, and it seems odd for him to put Nick in that situation.
5. Similarly, knowing Nick's problems, why would Connie not just let Nick finish his therapy session? That therapist seemed perfectly suited for Nick. What's the rush?
6. Those risque things in the amusement park couldn't really exist, right? They were beyond PG-13. What's up with that? Is it like an adults-only ride?
7. Assuming the security guard called the cops, then why in heck enter the fun-house in the dark to pursue two people with unknown motives who could be armed? The cops would arrive at any minute. (Would that place really have a night watchman anyway?)
8. For Connie to assume the role of the security guard seems highly risky. Easier to just climb back over the fence. There are a thousand ways that plan could have gone wrong (e.g. cop says show me your ID; copy says "where are the keys to the shed"; cop says "rewind this video").
9. What was the plan to get Nick away from the hospital? Taking the bus seems like it was a random decision, not a plan; and a very bad idea at that. Did he not have car? And where was he going to take Nick? Connie might be no genius, but there's no indication that he's a complete idiot. He had good masks, change of clothes, and a getaway driver for the heist. So why not a minimally logical plan to get Nick out?
10. Is a bottle of acid really worth $15K (wholesale)? If so, then why waste half the bottle ($7,500) on the unconscious guard just to keep him from talking. Again, much easier to run with $15K in acid than losing half of it and staying around to talk with cops. (And would the guard really swallow the acid in the unconscious state? Maybe a bit...?) Or just tell the cops that it was a false alarm and the cops never see the real guard.
11. How did the cops know to go to the guard's apartment to find Connie? Did they trace that cell phone? Seems like a lot of pieces to put together (being that it was not even his cell phone). If they weren't there to get Connie, then he could have just walked away. If Nick does not blab, it's not clear that they can convict Connie of anything.
12. I'm not sure why Ray was so scared. I don't see that the cops could have pinned anything on him. Some other dude robbed a Radio Shack. They can't pin that on Ray, nor really the drug-dealing. So not really sure why he thought he was in trouble. It's not a violation of parole to jump out of a moving cab.
13. Speaking of the cab, is there a problem with a passenger to say that he will get the money for the fare at his destination? It's not like they have to pay up front anyway. What would happen if a cabbie drove a passenger to the police station and said "this guy has no money"? Seems like a waste of time.
Notwithstanding, a good movie!

[–] Cranmer (139) 4 years ago

Some good points, I'll try to counter:

1. I think they are available but very expensive and need to be tailor made. Not the kind of thing you can just pick up at a toy shop.
2. It's possible the dye pack was hidden inside a false wad of cash.
3. Description would be for two men of a certain height and build wearing hoodies carrying bags. The police in the car couldn't see their race because they had hoods up, so it's plausible they would ask them to stop.
4. True - my guess is that Connie took Nick because the plan was for them to get away together as soon as possible after the heist. If he had left him with grandma he would have had to go back and get him while on the run from the cops. Either that or being a lowlife criminal he just thinks Nick is better off in that lifestyle instead of talking to a shrink who makes him cry.
5. He saw that Nick was crying (which the therapist didn't seem to notice). Probably Nick had told Connie previously that he didn't like the sessions so Connie turned up to take him away and the tears just confirmed it.
6. Yes probably for adults only. Some fairground rides that are very scarey/rough/violent are sometimes adults only.
7. The park was broken into recently (when Ray and his gang stashed the acid) so it's possible that there wasn't normally a guard on duty but they stepped up security for a short period. The Somalian guard probably got told if he doesn't do a good job he won't get kept on.
8. True, but he had to think quick and it probably seemed a safer option than running around outside in view of CCTV cameras.
9. We know Connie had a plan and a place to go (with a driver to take them) after the heist. But when the dye exploded, the car crashed and Nick got arrested, the plan fell apart, he could not go back to Grandma because the cops were looking for him. His back up plan was to get his girlfriend (the permanently drunk 'mature' lady) to pick them up from the black lady's house but that didn't work because Nick turned out to be Ray.
10. No idea. It was probably worth a lot hence why Ray didn't mind making the guard swallow a bit. I think the fluid may work through the linings of the mouth and doesn't actually need to be swallowed.
11. My guess is the neighbours called the cops when they heard the dog barking and the argument (we see a neighbour looking out into the corridor) and at some point the cops made the connection.
12. True. Ray says he didn't remember all of what he did that night. I wondered if he actually did something more serious like killed someone but didn't remember becaues of the acid; that could be why he was under armed guard at the hospital. Or it could just be that he couldn't stand jail and didn't want to go back. Remember he was very drunk in the last scene and probably not thinking straight.
13. The cabbie got annoyed because Ray told him to stop talking. If Ray had been polite the cabbie probably would not have minded - I have been in taxis when I didn't have enough money and the driver has been ok with taking me home and waiting for the money.