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Christians are not being discriminated against


No one hates Christians for being Christians. Christianity is held to the same standard of all other faiths. (in some ways it it held to a slightly higher standard such as with Street Preachers being aloud to blare megaphones at events or in front of other places of warship) The trouble comes when Christians come get up in your face telling you your faith is wrong & you're going to be cast into hell unless you follow their god. It doesn't help the cause it pushes people farther away because you are making your god look hateful. Plus you are getting on peoples nerves. Plus With Christians out there telling people the law should say this or that because their book does is also wrong. Christians are free to follow the faith they feel int heir heart is right & should let others do the same. Being told to leave someone alone & be quiet is not discrimination. Not using the Bible to make laws isn't discrimination. Holding Christianity to the same standards as all other faiths isn't discrimination. While I'm a Pagan, My sister & most of my friends are Christians & my Parents are former Lutherans. None of them feel discriminated against.

Ace Lions

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Have you seen the movie and read the list of all the cases this movie is based on? There were more than I could count. I was surprised.

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We only have one true God. Our Heavenly Father, Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit. If we didn't turn our backs on Him and make laws legal that are against Him and have false idols, then this world would not be as bad as it is. We have only ourselves to blame since we are under God and we keep turning further and further away.

I belong to Jesus: my Lord, Savior, my eternity, my everything. I love you, Jesus!

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There are many Gods this is the land of all faiths. You don't get to tell us what we should believe. This action you are taking is why it looks like people hate Christians. Learn to let people follow their faith & you follow yours. No one sees anything wrong with you being a Christian you need to leave the rest of us to not be christian. Don't try to turn me into a Christian I won't try to turn you into an Pagan & we will all live with Freedom of the Religion that is right for us.

Ace Lions

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The one thing I learned by all the nonsense on this post. If your not a true christian your post won't mean much to christian's. They are the ones who are being discriminated against. Its doesn't take rocket science to see it in the media and this current government. Obama has been the divider in chief since day 1. He could of unified this country. Instead he split this nation into the 60's all over again. When Ben Carson took Obama to town at the prayer breakfast. You could see the look in his eyes of anger that he hates Christians.

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I'm glad you learned ONE thing, because it's clear you never learned spelling or grammar.

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I thank God this Sunday and I ask for your forgiveness. The poster I am replying to is a IDIOT.

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Please, the poster 'to whom' you are replying, is 'an' idiot. While you're on your knees, groveling to your magic sky genie, ask him for some intelligence.

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Christians are not now nor ever was being discriminated against. people are just fighting back

Ace Lions

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"That is not the kind of suffering to which they were originally called. The writer of 1 Peter* warned them that it’s not enough to find that people don’t like you if the reasons they don’t like you are completely deserved.

For what credit is there if, when you sin and are harshly treated, you endure it with patience? But if, when you do what is right and suffer for it, you patiently endure it, this finds favor with God.

Evidently it was a problem from the very beginning, even in Peter’s day, that Christians wanted to pride themselves in how badly they were disliked. Evidently this has been a thing since the very inception of this religion. I see that not a lot has changed, except that now they are living in a country tailor-made to accommodate their religious freedoms.

And yet they are still not satisfied. They want more. They want things to be the way they used to be, back when they could say and do virtually anything they wanted to without worrying that it disadvantages other people who believe differently from them. Now they feel put out by the fact that even though they make up the overwhelming majority of Americans (doubly so in places like Arkansas), somehow they are being mistreated by having to let other people occupy the same space.

This newer way, the way of a more consistent religious pluralism, isn’t nearly as fun. In fact, it sucks. To them it feels like persecution. But in reality that’s just the way it feels to lose a little bit of the privilege you’ve always taken for granted." Neil Carter

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No one hates Christians for being Christians. Christianity is held to the same standard of all other faiths (in some ways it is held to a slightly higher standard such as with Street Preachers being aloud to blare megaphones at events or in front of other places of warship). The trouble comes when Christians get up in your face telling you your faith is wrong & you're going to be cast into Hell unless you follow their God. It doesn't help the cause, it pushes people further away because you are making your god look hateful.

THANK YOU! This is why I can't stand modern Christian movies like this, because they just use Christianity as a marketing campaign rather than a storytelling element, which is probably why most good Christian movies are usually biblical epics like Ben-Hur, The Robe, The Prince of Egypt, King of Kings, etc.



[Formerly CosmosX9]

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No one hates Christians for being Christian


That's blatantly untrue. Most people hate Christians for being Christians. That's why they murdered Jesus Christ and all of His Apostles. And that's also why in that same way, most posters on this board post tons of hatred against anyone who stands up for God, Jesus, the Bible, or their values (or even films that they think stand up for God, yet which actually oppose God, i.e. GND films).

Plus With Christians out there telling people the law should say this or that because their book does is also wrong.


Of course it's not. Any laws that contradict God are inherently wrong and immoral and therefore should be changed to become right and moral.

Christians are free to follow the faith they feel int heir heart is right & should let others do the same.


But darwinists like yourself do not let Christians be free to follow their faith. I.e. darwinists force Christians to be indoctrinated with their darwinist beliefs in public schools. And darwinists also turn society into a disgusting abomination of a cesspool in countless other ways too.

"Science creates fictions to explain facts" – Gilman

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You're completely missing the OP's point, Navaros. Also, how do you know if the OP is a darwinist? There was nothing in his original post that implied that!

I'm sorry, but this is IMDb, not ChristianMingle. Not everyone is going to like the same movies that you like. Nobody on here is attacking your religion, they're just attacking the movie, which is what we're allowed to do here!



[Formerly CosmosX9]

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how do you know if the OP is a darwinist?


He has admitted to being a pagan. I've never seen a neo-pagan who wasn't also a darwinist.

Nobody on here is attacking your religion, they're just attacking the movie, which is what we're allowed to do here!


You may not have, but tons of other atheists/darwinists (usually the worst ones by far are not atheists, but rather, they are darwinists who claim some sort of belief in God, i.e. kurt) have vehemently attacked both me and Christianity and everything that we stand for.

"Science creates fictions to explain facts" – Gilman

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Well then, if you really feel like those people are attacking you, why don't you just put them on ignore?



[Formerly CosmosX9]

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Well then, if you really feel like those people are attacking you, why don't you just put them on ignore?


Good question. I actually do sometimes.

But some posters are so sick, like kurt on these boards, that they fabricate unimaginably sick slander and then present it as the truth. If I ignore sickos like that, then I am unable to see their fabricated slander and potentially prevent other people from being misled by it.

"Science creates fictions to explain facts" – Gilman

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I'm sorry, but this is IMDb, not ChristianMingle. Not everyone is going to like the same movies that you like. Nobody on here is attacking your religion, they're just attacking the movie, which is what we're allowed to do here!


Yes, this is IMDb. And IMDb is known for having a very high percentage of militant atheists that protest pro-Christian films on every chat board they can find. And actually, a number of people on this board have attacked "your religion", which is called Christianity.

which is what we're allowed to do here


Insulting is allowed here, but it doesn't make it right. Go comment on the atheists chat boards.

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No everything i posted is true. This is not a Christian Country it is a country of all faiths & are laws should have nothing to do with any faith. Plus I'm a Pagan not a darwinist I follow the Greek Gods. We have freedom of religion & everyone can follow what ever religion they please that is how things work here.

Ace Lions

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Of course it's not. Any laws that contradict God are inherently wrong and immoral and therefore should be changed to become right and moral.


Are you actually saying that people who work on the Sabbath should be put to death? (The Super Bowl would obviously have to be moved to another day.) Are you saying that disobedient children should also be put to death?

The Theory of Evolution is science. It should be taught in science class in a rational nation. It is demonstrably unscientific to claim that the Universe was created in six days.

I don't hear Christians demanding that America turn the other cheek and do good to those who hate them. I do hear Christians regularly demanding that we go to war.

I'm a bit leery of worshiping a God who's Son cursed a fig tree for not producing fruit out of season.

I've read that there are several thousands of differing Christian sects in the USA each claiming to be the "One true religion®". They can't all be right but they can all be wrong.

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christians aren't discriminated against, it's impossible to discriminate against something with so much historical privilege just like it's impossible to discriminate against white people. It's not like crowds of crazed social justice warriors have ever tried to burn down churches or assaulted human chain's of pacifist christians trying to block their way. It's not like a teacher could lose their job for mentioning anything about the bible in a public school. It's not like ISIS is cutting off the heads of christians in the middle east it's also not like christanity in the middle east has been nearly eradicated by genocidal islamic efforts for the last 1400 years, it's not like christians in muslim countries have to pay extortion taxes and are barred from participating in government, it's not like christianity is banned anywhere on the planet, especially not Saudi Arabia, there are totally lots of christians in Saudi arabia and lots of churches, islam is obviously a persecuted religion too cuz like muh intersectionality tells me so, they're brown therefore they are oppressed and i falsely associate christianity with white people so therefore it's a white supremacist religion.

I'm a pagan, hail thor, asatru is the real religion, stupid christians with their dead jew on stick, i worship the real gods who totally helped our ancestors progress and become literate. Dude like, all religions should be held to the same standard, except islam cuz i'm not racist or islamophobic and no christian country should be allowed to exist anywhere on the planet and any preference of christianity over any other religion anywhere at any time is oppression and stuff. It's the current year so all western nations should be secular and allow islam to thrive and stamp out christianity with "equality", i mean it's obviously oppression not to let millions of muslims come to your country at once, it's not like their religion is explictly also a political system and it's not like they ever use colonization to become a majority and then convert, kill and subjugate non-muslims.
KEK dumb christians think they're oppressed, it's just equality bro, don't like it huh? that's what i thought christians are oppressors because they don't want other religions to wipe them out politically and literally. Like bro it's so funny that christianity is on it's way out and the rise of other religions have put christians on the path to extinction, it's like totally good and stuff and like any attempt by christians to have some sort of protectionism or even a state of their own is like evil and stuff while all attempts by our intersectional rainbow alliance to undermine, destroy and dilute christianity and the west is totally good and fair and it's just equality like we should have open borders to make the process quicker and stuff cuz like christians are so annoying and stuff, i can't wait until muslims are the majority in the whole world cuz like christians wanting their own nations not letting muslims have an equal opportunity is oppression.

Individualism FTW, HAIL THOR, death to Christianity, viva la revolution! Christians having preference for their own is like a nation having a preference for it's own people and that's just pure oppression and evil, it would be like a mother having a preference for her own family, only a bigot would think like that, we're a global community, it takes a village, parents and the family unit are as obsolete as christianity and nationalism just like borders are as obsolete as the lock on your front door, dude like you wouldn't keep people from taking over your home would you, that would be bigoted.

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Was this supposed to be clever?

**yawn**

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The film is set in an alternate reality, where the world around us actually fits the evangelical narrative of constant persecution. It's basically a fantasy flick.

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