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I'm an atheist - the teacher said nothing wrong


Like the first movie, God's Not Dead 2 is also based on a false premise. Nothing the teacher said was against the law. If she were persecuted for what she did, I would've stood up for her... and I'm an atheist. The thing with the professor in the first movie would also never happen in real life.

Of course teachers can talk about Jesus if it has something to do with their class. They just can't evangelize and promote their own personal religious beliefs. Quoting and comparing Jesus' words in a history class is no different than quoting Zeus. But if she were to start saying how Zeus changed her life and that he answers your prayers, then that is a problem.

How would christians feel if a muslim teacher got up and said Muhammad is the only real prophet, and the Koran is the true word of Allah. I doubt christian parents would want their kids being told that in school. That is why the separation of church and state is important.

Sure, it's all ok when the government promotes christianity, but what happens when the tables turn and another religion gets more power and representation in the government? And they start making little changes like "one nation under Allah" and having muslim prayers before school starts. Christians would hit the roof and think the apocalypse is imminent. You can't have it both ways. The separation of church and state is GOOD for christians, not bad.

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They don't want equality, they want special treatment because they believe their religion is the "real" one.


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God, Jesus, Christianity, and a host of other religions and religious figures are spoken of, discussed, and read about in public schools all the time. It's pretty much impossible to have a thorough study of history or literature without bringing them up. Passages from the King James Bible are even read in English classes because it is a historically significant literary work. Evangelizing students within their profession as a teacher is the only thing they're not supposed to do.

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Prizm4, I'm a born-again Christ-follower but I agree with so much of what you were saying. The movie was very embarrassing for me. I've responded to students in similar ways while teaching at a major state university. It's called teaching. And I would have said the same things in answer to historical questions if I had been teaching at a secular high school.

Moreover, the ACLU has often DEFENDED Christians in situations like these. While I've often disagree with the ACLU, I hate when the ACLU is dishonestly defamed.

This film had a lame story line and the "list of cases" at the end reminded me of the list at the end of the first movie of the series. Just as dishonest. We who follow Christ are supposed to care about TRUTH!

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Like the first movie, God's Not Dead 2 is also based on a false premise. Nothing the teacher said was against the law.
This 100%

Perpetual outrage is the most popular religion today.

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I just saw the movie a few minutes ago and got some knowledge from it that I wanted to share. Gerd Ludemann of Germany, Bart Ehrman, and J. Warner Wallace were mentioned with important facts, in the movie God's Not Dead 2 that I found uplifting.

"Gerd Ludemann is an Atheist/Historian says "Jesus death as a consequence of Crucifixion is unable to be challenged or denied." Bart Ehrman an Agnostic Historian says "Jesus did exist, whether we like it or not." The former homicide detective J. Warner Wallace, author of Cold Case Christianity, testify on the stand to the historical validity of Christ, and indisputably proved that Christ and His Word are proven history and every famous historian, both Christian and non-Christian, agree that Jesus existed."

Did the research on these guys and here are the references: https://jamesbishopblog.com/2015/11/24/jesus-fact-4-crucifixion-full-historical-investigation/
http://www.christianpost.com/news/gods-not-dead-2-offers-compelling-arguments-for-jesus-review-160490/#vie7DMXrQ4EDtYBQ.99

In the movie, the parents that were suing the teacher said something like: "we don't want our daughter being expose to someone else's beliefs. We want our daughter to have free-thinking" but when their daughter practiced "free thinking" the parents mocked her and told people "you know how 16 year olds are, you can't talk to them" and laughed.

Later in the movie, the parents looked upset with their daughter, as she spoke in the Court, saying she believed in God. So, what I gathered from the parents, their concept of "free thinking" is "I want my daughter to make up her own mind up, being free to make her own decisions -as long as I approved of them." Raising children this way, is conflicting to a child. I tried to raise my three sons with some of my mother's teachings that are parallel with Jesus teachings. For example: "treat people the way you want to be treated." Luke 6:31

And yes, I agree, the Teacher said nothing wrong in answering the student's question.





1 Timothy 2:9

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The case would have been thrown out.

Perpetual outrage is the most popular religion today.

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