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Spoiler question about the private detective

posted 8 years ago by leelapfung
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Could she see the angels?

My theory is that she could not. Only the couple and the three friends could see the angels.

But then it would make a plot contradiction. That said, the Will-Smith-goes-mad clips don't have the angels. Then they are passed to the three friends for the board meeting. Would the three friends feel strange that the angels are not in the clips?
Then, that said, Will Smith was truly mad in the three friends' eyes (as he was really raging to the air in the clips.)

Maybe my words can't explain well, but I do think there are some flaw in the plot.

[–] speculator-1 8 years ago

As Helen Mirren states, the angels can allow anyone to see them at any time they choose to be seen.

And Will Smith's behaviour (obsessive domino building, refusal to eat food or pay rent, trying to kill himself by riding into traffic) all indicates he was "truly mad".

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[–] leelapfung 8 years ago

Um... then, in the board meeting, the three friends are so sad because they thought Will Smith's acts in the clips are not influenced by the actors (they didn't know those are angels), and he was "truly mad"?

[–] speculator-1 8 years ago

Influenced?
He wasn't making stuff up because it was what they wanted to hear.
He was telling the truth, telling them things he couldn't even tell his best friends.
He meant every word of it, and he didn't care if they were actors or figments of his imagination.

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[–] leelapfung 8 years ago

My last comment was to complement my original question.

Let me rephrase my question -
1. Did the private detective see any of the angels at any part of the movie?

Base on your answer, I would have follow-up questions.

[–] speculator-1 8 years ago

The detective and her grandson certainly saw the first one, because they pretended not to.
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[–] leelapfung 8 years ago

Right, next, did the three friends know the three actors were angels at any part of the movie?

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[–] speculator-1 8 years ago

No, because they still paid them.

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[–] nixon242 8 years ago

The detective lady never said she saw them.