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Why are Jocks so arrogant, dangerous and STUPID?


That guy and his moronic mates gunning for Eddie AND the Hellfire Club members just made me wonder what can make less-than-intelligent students obsessed with sports and hateful of more intelligent people so VICIOUS?

And why do all Jocks wear those stupid jackets with a letter representing the school ("H" for Hawkins in this case) in that godawful font that just SCREAMS AMERICANA? You see it on pennants on bedroom walls, too. Who designed that godawful font?

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Jocks are very dumb. Not sure why. Maybe it is because they only have to catch balls and roll around with other guys. No other reason for them to exist.

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Ah, someone else who got beat up by jocks in high school and now harbors all manner of fantasy and misconception about them.

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Didn't get beat up once. All of your posts are so angry.

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No they're not.

But you know that.

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You think Stranger Things is real life?

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I never said that, but school and college Jocks have been represented accurately in many other American movies and TV shows. I just wonder why the distinction between Jocks and Nerds/Geeks has to even be made? It never was in British schools and colleges, to my knowledge.

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It's a Hollywood cliche' making the nerds underdogs you root for persecuted by those "evil" jocks ever since Revenge of the Nerds 1984.

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So American schools are not actually like that at all?

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My school was not like that. A lot of jocks are dumb, but a lot of jocks are not. Just like any other group of people.

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Didn't Grease (1978 set in the 50's) portray the jocks as dumb?

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You also have to remember that the show is set in the 1980s, so it doesn't make much sense to ask if schools are like that today. May not have been like that in real life 1980s alot of the time either, but in shows/movies from or set in that timeframe, the jocks are usually like that.

Another example being the Kobra Kai group always bullying Danielson and other kids.

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The nerds write the movies, they wish they were jocks in high school.
In real life there are smart jocks and dumb jocks.

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True. My brother played football and now he works in IT and has a degree in computer science.

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So, you got beat up a lot by the jocks in high school?

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Not all of us, I know! True enough, but it's been a time of relative peace and prosperity.

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This season definitely leaned hard into the bully tropes, all the way from the mean girls (FAFO - finally got clocked at the skate rink) to the bullies in the lab (#2 and the other mean powerful kids); and yes, right down to the jock and his mindless followers.

It was too much, kind of annoying, but that jock character basically was the figurehead for all (most) of the population of Hawkings. Take the newsclips in the finale episode talking about the satanic cults. And how about those feckless Hawkins cops that did nothing to stop the fear mongering.

While it was painful to watch, it was good to include it for the younger watchers so they can hopefully learn to avoid those boneheads in school. If you don't give them the power of following them, they can't thrive.

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> While it was painful to watch, it was good to include it for the younger watchers so they can hopefully learn to avoid those boneheads in school.

To be perfectly candid, young people should not be watching this show in the first place. It is way too agressive.

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Thought you were on about the Scots when I read the post title ;-)

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I have no problem with Scots.

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Never said you did.

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I am reminded of an old cartoon strip in a UK kids' comic called The Dandy, The Jocks and The Geordies, where two gangs of schoolkids from both sides of the border would fight each other on a regular basis. Come to think of it, it might be seen as culturally insensitive today.

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It probably would be seen that way today. It was quite funny mind, though in reality the Jocks (Scots) and the Geordies (north east folk) tended to dislike the southern folk (usually Cockneys) more than each other.

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Because that’s how they are in real life, they think that because they can kick a ball around that they are somehow better people. It’s very sick and disturbing but that’s how they really are in real life.

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