Minor spoilers for ep 2, which I just watched.
No. No way... There is no way MY tax dollars should be paying the salary of an FBI agent who's just gonna SHRUG when she catches an associate speaking Arabic over a phone and then straight-up lying about it. There's no way that can just pass.
Patterson, what the heck?
Sometimes fires don't go out when you're done playin' with them.
I know many people who speak Arabic and I just shrug. Because it's just a language people speak, not anything to pee your pants over.
shareBecause it's just a language people speak, not anything to pee your pants over.
So if I lie about anything, I should,be turned into my boss? Sounds a little too authoritarian to me. He'd done nothing wrong, she overheard him speaking to someone in another language. It's really not a big deal, especially after she found out he was ordering dinner for her. People need to calm down over Arabic speakers. There are plenty in Michigan and they aren't scary.
shareSo if I lie about anything, I should,be turned into my boss?
It's really not a big deal, especially after she found out he was ordering dinner for her.
People need to calm down over Arabic speakers. There are plenty in Michigan and they aren't scary.
First, it is considered an asset to speak multiple languages at the FBI. Especially important would be those who speak languages that are spoken in areas where there is current unrest, like middle eastern countries.
Second, it never crossed your mind that this doctor speaks to more than just this team? I seriously doubt a real FBI psychologist, or whatever he actually is on this show, would sit around waiting for one of these five people to need to see him. So, he could've been speaking to, say a translator in his official capacity of FBI psychologist and didn't want to break patient/doctor confidentiality. That's what I would've thought, as Patterson.
Third, yes, we do know there's a mole, but the characters, other than Jane, do not. So that comment is irrelevant to this situation.
I'm sure you're a very nice person, but your fears are unfounded that a person speaking Arabic, even at the FBI, is immediately suspicious. And, forgive me, because I don't live for TV or anything, but did he lie, or did Patterson just not know he spoke multiple languages? There are plenty of things I don't know about my coworkers, especially if it's none of my business.
Maybe you should work on your presentation because it truly does sound like your that guy in a camo cap who complains about foreigners. Ask yourself this: if he'd been talking into a phone speaking German, would you have had the same reaction?
So, he could've been speaking to, say a translator in his official capacity of FBI psychologist and didn't want to break patient/doctor confidentiality. That's what I would've thought, as Patterson.
Third, yes, we do know there's a mole, but the characters, other than Jane, do not. So that comment is irrelevant to this situation.
I'm sure you're a very nice person, but your fears are unfounded that a person speaking Arabic, even at the FBI, is immediately suspicious.
And, forgive me, because I don't live for TV or anything...
but did he lie, or did Patterson just not know he spoke multiple languages?
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, especially since I'm acting 'jerky' for stating I don't live for TV, which you managed to make a personal insult out of. Good day.
share...especially since I'm acting 'jerky' for stating I don't live for TV, which you managed to make a personal insult out of.
First, it is considered an asset to speak multiple languages at the FBI.
I am not going to agree to disagree. I am going to insist on it. You are totally missing the OP's point. The dude flat out lied, for no valid reason. Take your bleeding heart somewhere else, everything you have said is just stupid.
~Oh, I'm well aware it's not a picnic, Mr. Save the Day~ (Fitz, Agents of Shield)
The dude flat out lied, for no valid reason.
In this hour, Patterson "caught" him speaking Arabic to an unknown person over the phone, which he patently denied. That was a clear sign of shifty behavior, which either signals he is Shepherd's mole or an obvious red herring.
“Hero Fears Imminent Rot” leaves us with a lot of questions. Is Borden’s ability to speak Arabic just part of who he is? Or is there something more sinister there because he denies it when Patterson points it out?
You get to insist on nothing when it comes to my life. You can take your authoritarian heart elsewhere.
It's just a dumb tv show, and one not written extremely well. Lighten up. It's not a documentary.
If the real world was like it should be, she'd have been fired for taking confidential and classified documents (the tattoo stuff) home to her geek boyfriend because they were playing little games by trying to decipher them. David hadn't been vetted by the FBI but even if he was, Patterson's not supposed to be taking work home with her like that. Then again, we've recently seen how the FBI operates in the real world so I guess what Patterson did and continues to do is considered completely harmless and "nothing to see here".
Harvey i agree w/ you 100%.
shareIt was episode 3
shareObvious troll is obvious.
Don't feed it. Ignore it.
Riddle wrapped inside an enigma, wrapped inside a taco.
Don't feed it. Ignore it.
Harvey i think Tacolips was calling marissajordan the troll and not you.
shareUm, not a troll. Disagreeing with someone is not being a troll. But I see how you all try to squelch dissent so I can see I shouldn't bother.
You guys take a tv show Waaaaay too seriously.
Disagreeing with someone is not being a troll.
"...it's just a language people speak, not anything to pee your pants over."
So if I lie about anything, I should,be turned into my boss? Sounds a little too authoritarian to me.
"You guys take a tv show Waaaaay too seriously."
You can take your authoritarian heart elsewhere.
But I see how you all try to squelch dissent so I can see I shouldn't bother.
Shrug. Sounds like you want to not only dictate how I feel but also how I express that. I have little to no time to fight about inconsequential things like a TV show.
We feel differently, can't we leave it at that? Like I said, it's a TV show. Nothing to,get so worked up over. Seriously, you'll give yourself a heart attack.
Shrug. Sounds like you want to not only dictate how I feel but also how I express that.
I have little to no time to fight about inconsequential things like a TV show.
We feel differently, can't we leave it at that?
Like I said, it's a TV show. Nothing to get so worked up over.
Seriously, you'll give yourself a heart attack.
Ask yourself this: if he'd been talking into a phone speaking German, would you have had the same reaction?
Shrug. Again, it's a TV show. Calm down.
shareYeah and she is suppose to be the "brain" of the whole team. I didn't quite understand how she could've just shrugged her shoulders like that when he straight up lied to her saying "I don't know what you talking about" or something along those lines... its just piss ass poor writing and getting lazy. Now the new lady Nas SUDDENLY finds ALL this information that the Sandstorm group has been watching Weller for 20 years now, if true, I'm sure Jane's "family" will not share this information w/her b/c after all Jane's memory has been erased. I don't trust Nas but don't think she's the mole. I also don't think Weller was talking about Jane when he said something about trusting someone (Jane got all pissy like he meant it about her). Weller was talking about his *beep* father Jane b/c he lied to him over and over for years about Taylor Shaw. Jane shouldn't trust this weird "Sandstorm family" of hers, especially since they have a "devious plan" at play and her brother gives me the creeps especially the way he looks at her - YUCK! Also, WTF was up w/Tasha going to that "Shadow" guy at the end and asking him if he would want to do some "off the book" work for her? I do NOT like her and do NOT like Nas at all.... I think the mole is the shrink-- I wish it was either Tasha or Nas b/c I can't stand them but I don't like the shrink either, he's very creepy; why all of the sudden he's taking a romantic interest in Patterson (who is one of my favorites, love the actress). I'm so sick of the "fugly" looks on Jane's face lately, its driving me crazy; I know she's confused and all but I wish the actress could work on a better "chip on the shoulder/confused look" for a facial expression... so much *beep* up on this show lately, its ALL over the place. Also another favorite of mine besides Patterson, Weller is Reade (I feel really bad for him b/c my husband and I had a mutual friend commit suicide b/c of being molested by a very "high respected authority"; so it hits close to home) I always loved Reade though and Tasha had NO right throwing his friend out like that, I BET he ends up dead; I just want his friend Freddie to at least let Reade know that a female friend or did Tasha say co-worker kicked him out of his apartment - yeah he had drugs w/him so Tasha should've called Reade and told him to come home and handle the situation himself since Tasha had no right doing it herself...Reade would've wanted to know Freddie had drugs on him and he would've been "concerned" for Freddie b/c he's going thru a lot right now. Also the objects on Reade's coffee table were drugs right? I'm having trouble w/my DVR/Remote (one big mess my life) so I couldn't rewind and freeze it on that particular scene.. Sorry my post is so long (and all over the place- like the show is right now). I'm just confused and FULL of questions...
PS I WILL SAY AGAIN CAN'T STAND NAS, TASHA, ROBERT THE SHRINK (CHECK HIS IMDB PAGE - HE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ON MUCH LONGER; COULD BE WRONG OR WISHFUL THINKING)