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What exactly happened to Julia (spoiler)


Was Richard evil or was his body ursurped by the "god" they summoned?? And why did her eyes turn green??

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Looked like the God they summoned stepped into his dead, heartless body and took it over. He muttered something about 'make you like me' during the rape and clearly gave her some power, since she got the same green eye effect that Alice did when she drank Ember's... seed

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SO was it really just Julia at the end, or was Renard/Renard offspring controlling her? Why would she stand there and let everyone die before killing the beast? She could have just cut his throat when he went after Quentin like Alice was suppose to.

I also thought Alice wasn't dead yet because the beast says something about her bleeding to death, that takes a few minutes. Same with Penny, although much faster losing 2 hands. So Penny can't do magic without hands like the Dean, right?

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Why would she stand there and let everyone die before killing the beast?


I think Julia is just suffering from the PTSD of seeing her newfound spiritualist magic friends murdered in front of her, and her being raped, and her need/hunger for revenge tunneling her vision to the point that getting her revenge is more important then team Q living.

Keep in mind that she was a high functioning, high class, privileged girl that was snubbed by her former life-long friend. I know if I found out there was an entire secret world that I was almost permitted to enter and I was capable of becoming a magician and in any way felt cheated out of it by my oldest friend, I'd probably take years to forgive that, if I ever could.

So, given that, she's not on team Q, though she was learning about how in past versions she wasn't the outcast and that it was Jane's fault and not Quentin's, it can be tough to let stuff go in a short span of time.

Then, very shortly after that she is suddenly hit with the real version of what happened when Ember removes Marina's memory patch and based on her small view of the magical world that she's seen, the beast is the one person she knows that has the power and or knowledge to help her get her revenge on Reynard the Trickster.

She's already met Ember and I know I wouldn't think that pathetic loser had anything much to offer, and she knows the beast has killed Umber, a being probably of a similar power level to Reynard.

All she has to sacrifice is a friendship bridge that was already horribly burned and under current repair and some strangers she had just met that probably had something to do with that burnt bridge.

What she did was wrong, but I can totally understand how that character could do that.


If You're Failing to Plan,
You're Planning to Fail.

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The god used his body to return to earth. He then raped Julia. And his essence(semen) allowed her to hold the Leo blade. Her eyes glowed green just like Alice so it would be obvious what had happened. Has there ever been this much semen in a TV show?

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I missed the part where Alice drank the "seed"... Will have to rematch. I cut off and then recorded the second part

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The Love Boat?

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Julia double crossed everyone by taking the knife. Alice died and penny loses his hands , because she went against the plan.

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I don't think Alice died...

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In the bookAlice did die, but I dont think you can say Julia betrayed them. The beast had already destroyed them all by the time Julia got the blade.

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When Quentin maneuvered The Beast to have his back to Alice, she reached for the blade but it was gone. So there was a chance she could have gotten a backstab in had Julia not stolen the blade. At least, that's what it looked like to me

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oh, I didnt catch that. I saw her grab for something but didnt realize what it was. I also missed her drinking the gods seamen though. I thought Quentin was going to be the one to do it.

So i guess she did betray them, but considering every other timeline they all end up dead whereas it just looks like Alice. I'm going to assume Alice wouldnt have been successful with that stab.

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The beast destroyed them because when Alice went for the blade it was not there. Julia had stolen it already. So yes she betrayed them and caused them to lose.

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Well, Julia probably realized that the change in this timeline was her so she had to be the one to kill the beast. Should have told Alice though.

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It didn't have to be Julia. Julia being what's changed doesn't logically mean she had to be the one to kill the beast, just that that change had to put the group in the position to kill him.

Julia took the blade specifically so that they couldn't kill Beastie Boy. She wanted his help and so, purposefully prevented his death and betrayed the group. She really is an evil piece of crap, lulz. So far, only Margo and Alice aren't total dickheads.

Julia was naive when she helped Hedge Bitch mindrape Quentin, even if he was a condescending ass to her; she was barely forgivable for that. But this time she's just irredeemable. But of course, they'll have Quentin forgive her because boner, lulz. Fillory gets to keep suffering under Magic Hitler and the mercenaries in the Nietherworld get to keep on murdering travellers. Thumbs up, Julia.

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"The beast destroyed them because when Alice went for the blade it was not there. Julia had stolen it already. So yes she betrayed them and caused them to lose."

No. That's not actually what happened. The Beast disabled Penny's hands so they couldn't travel out of the room. Julia stole the knife from Alice, yes, but made a deal with the Beast. No one "lost".

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Everything is jumbled up in your brain. Why don't you re-watch it, come back, and edit your post. Julia caused the mess.

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lemurcat04 (Tue May 3 2016 11:38:14)
No. That's not actually what happened. The Beast disabled Penny's hands so they couldn't travel out of the room. Julia stole the knife from Alice, yes, but made a deal with the Beast. No one "lost"
Saying that he 'disabled' Penny's hands is a bit of an understatement. You make it sound like he just made Penny's hands go numb or something, when really, he chopped Penny's hands off. The only one who didn't "lose" was Julia.

It's seriously f*d up what she did. Yeah, one 'god like' entity raped her and stuff, but she's trying to make a deal with another one that has killed her life long friend 39 different times, just to get some revenge. Way to be selfish. Now, I'm sure they (writers/etc) wanted to keep the bad guy around for another season, but the way they did it made Julia into nothing more than an egotistical self centered b*h.

Also don't like how they wrote in that Q cheated on Alice. I liked them together.

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Ingore FangsMcWolf, he's been going around various boards trying to stir up trouble. He's randomly trying to stir up users of other shows to get a reaction from them. I suggest you report his posts at every opportunity.

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You're the troll that goes around spreading lies. In one reply to you, you resorted to insulting my looks, in an attempt to be right. You didn't use facts, only insults. A view of your posting history provides proof of this. Nice try, but you are still failing at trolling me.

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Alice isn't dead. She has Ember's essence in her. Hard to kill a god. She'll bounce back up.

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she didn't double crossed anyone. still saved their lives. they would all be dead if she didn't take the knife

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Why did Julia need Marina help and what did Marina do?

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because all her friends were just killed and she was raped by a god she helped to summon, she needed help blasting those memories out of her head.

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Also, disposing of the bodies

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4 dead bodies, lots of blood

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They summoned an evil trickster god who killed and possessed Richard and then raped Julia. Then she a memory block put over the whole thing. The glowing eyes was because apparently god aper super charges you.

Unless Alpert's covered in bacon grease, I don't think Hugo can track anything.

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